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<0> :9
<0> :(
<1> HHHG: is it on a separate data partition?
<0> no:(
<2> well that is your fault
<0> how i can make a partition
<0> well i dont know
<2> you should never leave a drive unpartitioned.
<0> nobody tell me how to do..
<1> you live and learn :)
<2> HHHG: i think it's kind of too late for that, since the system is b0rked
<0> :)
<0> so fedora core is good?
<0> cot fc4
<1> HHHG: buy another 200GB hard drive :)
<0> got
<0> ..
<1> HHHG: fc4 is fine
<0> ok:)
<2> HHHG: that is if you want a big distro.
<1> HHHG: but you need to keep it updated, and learn a bit about security. tldp.org has good guides
<0> my hda got 320 gb..
<2> you could always try distro's for begginers who usually migrate from windows.
<0> westen digital..
<0> after i del all
<0> an reinstall the linux
<0> how i can make a partition?
<1> fdisk
<2> HHHG: during the instalation use disk druid.
<0> hmm
<2> i think fedora has disk druid right?
<0> no
<1> yes, but he needs to make a partition before he installs, to backup his data
<1> yes, fc has disk druid
<3> man that shred thing is wild; me likey me likey
<4> synaptic: but you gotta admit, when you go to the average bookstore, you'd be hard pressed to find a book about debian on the shelves without ordering one off the net
<2> muchacho: are you using a ext3 filesystem?
<0> how i can see logs
<0> how hack me?
<3> yes
<3> why
<2> muchacho: shred does not work on ext3 filesystems.
<1> HHHG: the logs probably won't tell you
<2> it does not erase the data.
<2> read the man page.
<1> HHHG: if you were hacked, they probably edited the logs to hide what they did
<3> but the file is gone
<0> hmm
<2> muchacho: that's because you deleted it and probably overwrited the data.
<3> yes i did -uvz on shred
<0> well..
<0> how to install fc4?
<0> without cds?
<1> muchacho: the man page clearly says shred is not effective on ext3 or other journaling filesystems
<3> but i see man page says it wont work on ext3
<0> i dont have right now the cds
<2> HHHG: get the dvd.
<0> well i got
<0> dvd
<2> with fedora?
<0> emoty
<0> empty
<3> oh well
<0> i most download the fc4
<0> and make?
<2> well that's not good, you need to download it.
<0> well
<2> HHHG: maybe you should try another lighter distro. let's say Ubuntu
<0> but wit k3b if i make the cd data
<0> will make bootable?
<5> Debian based distros =)
<2> HHHG: k3b can write bootable iso's too.
<1> if you make a data cd, you'll end up with a cd that has file.iso on it, which will make a good coaster, but that's about it
<1> you need to create the cd from the image, not simply burn the image file to the cd
<0> synaptic
<0> u can tell me from wher to download it?
<2> HHHG: ofcourse. www.ubuntu.com
<0> i got ubunto to
<0> is good?
<2> it's a nice distro, yes.
<2> especially for desktop use.
<0> i have 2 cd`s
<1> ubuntu and fedora are both good beginner distros
<0> can have desktop wit it?
<6> no matter what you install, make sure you keep it up to date
<2> s/have/has
<3> T`aZ what command do i use when grep the partition to find the deleted files or whatever?
<2> HHHG: it's a desktop distribution.
<3> or is it in the grep man?
<0> w8
<0> last time he dont show me the desktop...
<0> dont know why..
<2> HHHG: be sure you have the last version of it ( that's 5.10 )
<2> and remember to update often and read something about security measures.
<2> just wondering something.
<0> yes i have
<2> !nickometer HHHG
<7> 'HHHG' is 69.000% lame, synaptic
<8> muchacho: i dont think you wanna recover a file with dd and shred =]
<0> why?
<2> that's a nice number.
<0> man
<8> shred/grep/
<0> i got 2 cds
<0> wit ubuntu
<2> probably one is recovery one is with ubuntu
<0> with one to install
<2> just chose the right one.
<3> T`aZ i didnt use shred to delete the files; just rm
<0> 2 cds same
<2> T`aZ: shred wouldn't even work on ext3 filesystems ( and other journaling fs`s )
<8> muchacho: then try to google for undelete ext2/3
<2> HHHG: well then you have two identic cd's.
<0> ok
<1> synaptic: well, it'll "work" but not "effectively"
<3> when you said grep the partition earlier ... oh ok thuh, thanx
<2> Fiver: yes, the deleting part.
<1> the secure part
<2> but the overwriting part won't be so effective.
<1> it'll delete
<1> right
<8> muchacho: mc has a pretty cool way to recover ext2 files :p
<2> since it's not sure that it will overwrite the same sectors.
<3> mc?
<2> T`aZ: again, it was an ext3 fs.
<2> muchacho: midnight commander.
<3> yes ext3
<1> he can mount it as ext2 and try ext2 methods
<2> a clone of nc(?) i think.
<8> synaptic: and undelete works with ext3 iirc
<2> T`aZ: you seem to have something with iirc.
<3> iirc?
<1> !iirc
<7> IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly"
<8> muchacho: but in practice, the chances are slim because 1) the filename is gone, 2) if one block used previously is used for something else, the file is corrupt
<0> !bind
<7> bind is, like, the Berkeley Internet Name Domain a DNS server or non-free due to a dependency on the RSAREF library or at http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/ or a DFSG compliant version without RSA's DNSSEC, or notice that RSA is now free, and that bind 9 is out, or ask me about "bind vuln"
<8> synaptic: what's the correct expression then ? :)
<0> !xmms
<7> hmm... xmms is X MultiMedia System. Leach it from http://www.xmms.org/, or screwed up because it renices to -3 automatically on debian woody, and you can't de-automate it.
<8> 'i think' is a bit boring no ? :)
<2> T`aZ: just say it.
<2> HHHG: do you like playing with ladybyte?
<8> but , i'm not 100% sure about what i'm saying
<2> T`aZ: when you see lots of phrases with the same expression/acronym it gets boring.
<0> hei
<0> a friend of mine work on a comapny..
<2> !emech
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