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<0> Nikul: In that case, go with slackware
<1> no, I'm not that extreme, of course, the fact that linux is also better, is one of the main arguments
<2> well, I heard OS X is less popular than ubuntu. Perhaps try that
<0> Nikul: Ah, but _is_ linux better?
<1> :))
<0> abdulAlim: I still prefer osx over ubuntu :P
<2> Coma: only because it's less popular :P
<0> No, only because it works a whole lot better on my powerbook :P
<2> heh]
<1> ok, let me rephrase. so, the question is, what OS, other than ubuntu, would you say, from your own experience, is very good for a desktop?
<0> Nikul: I still keep debian on my desktop here.
<1> so, I am writing down Debian, Slackware, OS X
<0> lol
<1> another thing. how come ubuntu is only 700 mb and fedora 3.5 gb?
<0> Dude, slackware wasn't a serious suggestion and scratch osc, since that only works on macs
<3> Nik: Ubuntu relies heavily on installing additional packages from the network.
<1> oh:)
<3> Nik: Both distributions can be installed completely from a network source - Fedora's network install boot CD is less than 10MBytes
<0> Nikul: If you realise that ubuntu's based on debian and in theory has all of debian's packages available, that's a whole lot more
<1> I see
<0> Nikul: Imagine, the current debian release spans about 14 cds.
<4> like anyone ever downloads source cd's
<0> I thought that was the binaries only.
<1> so, the 700 mb ubuntu cd I am downloading now is not all I need for my computer to work?
<0> Oh well, who downloads all of them anyway.
<4> Coma: fourteen binary cd's? surely not..
<0> Nikul: It should be sufficient to get a decent desktop up and running.
<0> wlfshmn: Well, those 15000 packages have to go somewhere ;)
<4> good grief. you are right!
<4> fifteen even (although the last one is 50MB)
<1> back:)
<1> any advice about installing linux? I will try ubuntu for now
<0> Read the installation guide?
<1> of course I will read the installation guide. I mean if you consider there is something you consider very important
<1> which might be harder to understand from the inst. guide
<0> And draw up your installation plan before hand. Like whether you want to keep windows around too, have it dual boot, etc
<1> yes, I want to keep windows
<1> for now anyway
<0> Ok, so before you even start installing linux, you might want to make sure you've actually got free space to slap linux on to.
<0> But I suspect this is also covered in the installation guide.
<1> I sure do
<1> I think I have some 30 GB
<0> As actual unusaed space, or just free space on a windows partition?
<5> I've had it with windows and need help! Which version of Linux should I install on my laptop? I want to use it for making web pages
<2> making web pages?
<2> you mean using dreamweaver?
<5> you know, web design. No Ive had it with that as well, it keeps forgetting my FTP p***words!!
<5> not so bothered about a WYSIWYG editor, most of my work is PHP anyway
<0> langywhips: Grab a copy of ubuntu, which'll work as a live cd. Boot form that and try it for a bit, before you actually decide linux is fit for you and you do want to install it
<0> langywhips: Perhaps what you need is a mac ;)
<5> nice one, didn't know you could boot it from a CD. Funds will not allow a Mac :(
<5> have you read this, from the Guardian? http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2006031,00.html
<0> Lol, yeah, read part of it.
<5> He's right about the one button mouse on a Mac, dont think I could get used to it
<4> well look at that.. a 1.0 release of firebug..
<0> No one's forcing you to use a single button mouse on a mac. Hell, even apple ships multi button mice now.
<5> thanks a lot Coma, will try ubuntu
<0> wlfshmn: Been available for days already ;)
<0> Right, time for some more coffee.
<5> Im off to buy a garish 10 button PC mouse with LEDs and a neon alien
<5> ;)
<2> wow, I want me one of them
<2> nay two of them
<0> Anything with flashy lights :P
<2> so I am ircing and the boss walks in, and in a panic I put one hand on each keyboard and start typing
<2> and the boss says "wow you are good, you can IRC with both hands at the same time"
<0> lol
<1> back. unfortunately I can't stay any longer. just wanted to say thanks to those who answered my questions. I will surely come back here after I install my linux:) take care everyone, bye
<6> hi
<6> can anyone tell me how to enable the alt+f2 thing that pops up in which you enter a command in kde. im running mandriva 2007 free with kde
<7> i have bit of trouble enabling my SBC realtek8185L WiFi, somebody experienced ?
<8> .o
<3> rinn: You'll have to fight drivers first
<7> yup SMC did use atheros, i bought one and according to some sites SMC does use realtek 8185L now
<7> :(
<3> I hate how they do that too, but you might have some luck with Realtek, they tend to be OK for drivers
<3> I know I've been using a realtek - though a different model
<3> And there's always ndiswrapper to try
<3> !ndiswrapper
<9> it has been said that ndiswrapper is Some vendors do not release specifications of the hardware or provide a linux driver for their wireless network cards. This project provides a linux kernel module that loads and runs Ndis (Windows network driver API) drivers supplied by the vendors.
<10>
<3> DeJa: Could you repeat that? Using more letters, maybe a number or two?
<10> longword: 'twas an accident, but I leave you to figure the profundity of what I said :)
<11> Hello
<3> Morning ScoT
<11> heya longword, hows life treating you
<3> Pretty well all things considered
<8> howdy
<11> hi madalin
<8> hey scottie
<12> heyy
<12> can anyone help me pls ??!?!
<12> i just installed suse linux 9.3
<0> Hard to tell if we don't know the problem yet.
<12> and i want to tell me
<12> how can i search for linux programs
<0> Now that doesn't make much sense. Search where? What for?
<12> i saved some commands like sudo apt-get update ...
<12> in terminal
<12> or
<0> Suse doesn't use apt-get
<12> apt-cache search
<12> what uses?
<0> And isn't suse 9.3 terribly old?
<0> Zero-Coo|_: You probably want to use yast2
<0> If you're more familiar with commands like apt-get, you probably should install Ubuntu or Debian.
<12> hm yes .. but the commands in terminal how they are?
<0> Just type yast2 and hit enter (as root)
<12> ok wait to test it :p
<12> what did mean as root?
<0> As the root user. Or you could use sudo of course.
<12> like sudo yast2 ?
<0> Exactly
<12> it said command not found ..
<0> Did it say that about sudo or about yast2?
<12> about yast2
<12> sudo: yast2: command not found
<12> anyway my friend
<12> i will come back in an hour
<0> Hmm, perhaps it's plainly called yast
<12> cos i have some work to do
<12> c ya later !
<0> Good idea
<4> oh good grief, people are -still- using nicknames from that old movie..
<12> lol ;p
<12> bb
<13> YOU ALL ****
<13> er, hi
<8> lol
<8> tommi; you too!:)
<0> Quite a common typo :P
<13> yes, but that's besides the point
<13> I mean, no activity but join/partspam for pretty much an hour. somebody have a problem I can say rtfm to.
<0> tommi: How do I make it work????!!!???
<13> Coma: well, you start by grabbing a couple of your best bottles of whisky. then you get yourself on a bus with copenhagen as a destination. then you let me know when/where you'll be here, and we can take it from there.
<13> Coma: ASL lolz?!
<0> Don't think there are any direct connections to $there
<14> Catapult.
<14> I've been suggesting catapults for transport for years, but noone seems to take the idea seriously :(
<13> Demonen: they work nicely, all you have to do is smoothen the landing slightly.
<0> I'm afraid it'd give me a headache.
<13> Coma: iirc there's trains to amsterdam/return to copenhagen central
<14> tommi: Large spring-softened net. Solved.
<0> tommi: Isn't there a load of water somewhere in between?
<14> Coma: Bridges. Google it :)
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