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<0> aCiK: oh ok
<0> aCiK: what problem were you having them
<0> them/then
<1> i dont know to where in linux
<0> aCiK: to do what?
<1> and can download but can use it
<0> aCiK: does it have firefox or konqueror installed?
<1> yeah
<1> already install
<2> aCiK: you were pointed to www.tldp.com already - go and read it
<2> my mistake. tldp.org
<2> 'how to use linux' will not get you anywhere
<1> i already read it but still dont understand it
<1> mt english poor
<1> *my
<0> aCiK: what language do you speak natively
<1> malay
<0> aCiK: just a sec, trying to find a malay version of tldp.org... they 'had' a malay translator but he bailed out on them... just a sec
<1> ok
<1> what special about suse linux
<0> aCiK: this will give you a little info about the malay documentation project [Projek Dokumentasi Linux]: http://www.tldp.org/ldpwn/ldpwn-2001-03-13.html
<0> aCiK: towards the bottom of the page.
<1> ty
<0> aCiK: I think this is what: http://www.geocities.com/linuxmalaysia/malaysialinux.html
<3> must go TODAY anyone here interested in a notebook for 350$ or a desktop for 500? message me on msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com or aim at ogd443 if interested
<0> mikestereh: what speed are they
<0> mikestereh: make/model as well
<4> -
<5> anyone using mandrake
<6> There's gotta be atleast a few using mandrake worldwide, yes.
<6> :P
<5> im currently in the login and p***word screen . and i just entered the login and p***. what do i do nex
<7> hi, all
<8> ;6~Hi
<3> must go TODAY anyone here interested in a notebook for 350$ or a desktop for 500? message me on msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com or aim at ogd443 if interested
<9> lol
<10> hi
<10> hmm, some linux guru alive by chance? i could need a hand ;)
<0> t***imo: its a good idea to simply state your problem
<11> ma ajuta si pe mine cineva cu un canal?
<8> No. Bye.
<10> ok ;)
<11> t***imo ... intra pe RapHirlau
<10> i want to telnet a remote box, login there, and execute some commands. all this using a shellscript. any idea how? :)
<8> t***imo: Use ssh.
<10> gcbirzan, if it was on me, i would. but the remote box uses telnet only. and i dont think that it affects the "procedure" whether i'm using telnet or ssh ;)
<8> It does.
<10> ok, but unfortunately i cant use ssh.
<8> Look at .telnetrc.
<9> hola
<10> gcbirzan, there's no .telnetrc on that box
<8> Create one?
<10> and then?
<8> And then?
<8> Actually, you can't.
<8> And, apparently, you can't.
<10> i dont get you, sorry.
<8> You can't do it with telnet.
<10> because of the client, or because of the server?
<12> cine ma ajuta si pe mine
<8> English, twit
<8> t***imo: Because of the client.
<12> pls romania
<8> No. English.
<13> on apt which file is the services list on ubuntu?
<13> np found it sources.list
<10> gcbirzan, so if i could use some ssh client to connect to the telnet port, it may work (without encryption) ?
<8> No.
<8> Since you can't use a ssh client to connect to a telnet server.
<10> even if i dont use encryption?
<10> but ok. if i can get a sshd running on that remote box, how would i do it then?
<8> ssh machine script
<10> heh, i'm not that linux pro. can you tell me some more details please?
<8> gcbirzan@hephaestus:~$ ssh nemesis uname -a
<8> Linux nemesis 2.6.11 #1 Tue Apr 5 16:23:08 EEST 2005 i686 unknown
<8> gcbirzan@hephaestus:~$
<14> uuh, magic.
<6> gcbirzan: p***phraseless key?
<6> *ghasp*
<8> No.
<8> ssh-agent
<6> aah ok :) *phew*
<10> hmmm
<10> if i want to execute some more commands on the remote box, i'd better stuff them into a shellscript also?
<8> Yes.
<10> then i better try to get some sshd on that box running...
<10> thanks for your help, i appreciate :)
<8> sure.
<6> allright, now I'm confused. Debian Unstable, package "keychain" conflicts with package "ssh"
<6> What do I want with a keychain if I'm not gonna SSH
<6> ?
<10> gcbirzan, another question... what if the remote box requires a p***word to login?
<15> t***imo: then you do like he did. use ssh-agent and a ssh-key.
<6> t***imo: Then you give it the p***word or use an ssh-agent to do so
<10> right now i dont even know exactly what a ssh-agent is, and i'm not sure if i could get it running on the remote box
<10> how do i give the p***word from a shellscript?
<10> so i want to automate it, no "manual action" needed
<6> you don't want that
<10> heh, it's nothing at all security related
<6> You do NOT want to give your p***word on the commandline, no matter how "security related" it is or isn't
<16> t***imo: everything is security related when executing things on a remove account.
<6> You should read up on ssh-agent and ssh-key. It's really not so complicated.
<6> It just takes some readong
<6> ... reading
<16> Demonen: isn't it apparant by now that that is something he's not prepared to do?
<10> i will do that, but i doubt that it will run on that remote box
<6> tommi: Sure, but I don't easily give up :)
<8> tommi: Currently, I'm looking for something like that for telnet. :-)
<6> t***imo: It possibly allready does.
<10> tommi, wrong, i usually rtfm twice before asking any stoopid questions
<16> gcbirzan: ssh-keys?
<6> t***imo: ... not in this case.
<16> t***imo: you do? then why didn't you do so in this case?
<8> tommi: Well, I've umpteen crappy hardware I need to login via telnet to.
<16> gcbirzan: ugh.
<10> tommi, guess what manpages i'm reading now? the point is, that i dont think i can use ssh-agent, so i need another solution
<16> did I ever say how I hated debugging sip hookups in marocco?
<16> t***imo: why's that?
<10> i'm very aware about security and stuff, that remote box i'm talking about isnt even accessible from the big bad internet ;)
<16> t***imo: if that's the case, you could use rhosts or the likes. but you will still be able to make it work with an ssh-key
<10> tommi, the "remote box" i'm talking about is my sat receiver. it's a kinda old piece of hardware and thus very limited in what it can execute
<16> if it's an ssh daemon, it should be capable of handling keys, if not, resort to scripting.
<10> so, if i cant get ssh-agent running for some reason, is there any other way?
<16> probably. ask more specific in case it wont work, and with details as to why it wont work.
<10> all i need to know for now is how to login to a remote box using a shellscript with no human action needed. and yes, i know about security issues, but it's just my sat receiver, after all.
<10> and the reason i want that automation is, that i dont want to run to the keyboard to enter my p***word every time i use my remote control ;)
<17> you could either be more specific with your ssh-agent problem. or you could use a ssh key without p***phrase
<10> hey coekie ;)
<10> coekie, there is no problem with ssh-agent, as there is no ssh-agent. and the username i need to login to the remote box has a p***word ***igned.
<17> and you can't login using ssh keys? (it has some silly ssh server running on it?)
<10> it's a very basic sshd, and the box is very limited also
<10> the method gcbirzan suggested is working fine, i just dont want to enter my p***word all the time
<17> so your problem is not with ssh-agent, but rather that you have to login using a p***word, and can't use ssh keys?
<17> (ssh-agent is for keys, not for plain p***word)
<10> i think so, yes.
<10> coekie: ssh mybox myscript.sh is working fine, but i've got to enter my p***word all the time
<8> tommi: And. Fun.
<8> tommi: Gotta move an ancient Fox database to MySQL. This is going to be FUN.
<14> who the hell uses Fox nowadays ?
<8> Oh, you don't want to know. :-P
<14> i really do :))
<8> RCS. :-P
<14> RCS ?
<14> cable tv?
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