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<0> Delwin not with wpa only wep :(
<1> harpoontang: in this case it is a hw limitation.
<1> or more correctly, a firmware limitation.
<2> ah
<0> last time i played with wireless under linux i was using rh 7.2, and it was a bloody nightmare
<1> hahahaha
<3> im on wireless now
<1> yeah, it would have been back then. it wasn't that great 2 years ago.
<2> Redragon^ - it still is
<3> took me all of 5 min to setup
<1> it's only gotten decent in the last year or so.
<3> biggest prob was prefixing 0x to my wep key
<0> yea modern distros and ndis-wrapper make it easier
<3> for hex
<1> ndiswrapper is a horror story, but that's a whole separate argument.
<1> monkieboy: ugh, yeah, done that too.
<0> ugg wep was a nightmare
<1> wep ****s.
<0> but i finally got it working and hardly ever user that laptop, mainly cause its ancient
<0> bron you know whats great about my wireless here?
<1> only some f'ing mac users I know use wep.
<1> that and security nuts. everyone else just leaves ap open.
<0> if you can pickup the signal then I can shoot you for tresp***ing....
<3> ease of use is his point. hard to argue that head on. linux is getting better all the time as my wireless testimony indicates
<1> lol
<0> got a 5 acre lot and you gotta be on it to pickup this weak arse ap
<1> monkieboy: I swapped a 4G drive with Ubuntu on it out of an IBM Thinkpad 775 into an IBM Thinkpad T23
<2> Redragon^ - what model?
<0> umm let me look
<1> worked out of the box, and the intel wifi did too.
<3> wep is like the home burgler alarm system which is designed to keep the local idiot out of your house, not the master thief
<1> yup.
<1> though we've not had much success cracking WEP.
<0> linksys wireless-g
<2> I thoguht there were utilities out there that could crack wep pretty quickly?
<3> not quickly
<0> there are
<1> harpoontang: we tried about a year ago. sniffed like a gig of traffic. no luck.
<2> Doesn't that have two antennas?
<4> ndiswrapper doesn't like the agere driver (which works so-so in Windows)...
<0> yea it has 2 antenna
<3> takes a little while for enough traffic
<4> I got it working just fine with WEP, but I really want to use WPA :s
<0> yea it all depends on the wireless traffic
<2> Redragon^ - get a better antenna on one of the two
<0> if you want secure wireless you use vpn across it :)
<5> you can do brute force attacks
<1> pretty much.
<2> A hi-gain or something, omnidirectional or unidirectional.
<0> harpoontang the machines in the house hit it so its okay
<1> my AP is 2ft from my laptop.
<0> but your not gonna hit it from the neighbors lot :)
<4> Redragon^ good point.
<5> or offline attacks for WPA
<0> bron you see my network diagram?
<1> all important p***worded traffic here is SSL encrypted.
<4> hrm.
<1> Redragon^: heh, nope.
<0> yea other than general surfing everything on wireless and most on even the cat 5 here is ssh
<0> some windows file sharing which is p***word protected is about it
<1> well.. ethernet wires are themselves transmitters, albeit weak ones.
<2> I drove around my neighborhood with my ipaq it's amazing how many aps are out there now and even more so how many are open.
<0> Delwin depends on how many, what os, and if they like to tinker with the os :)
<3> anyone here use epic?
<4> Redragon^ two XP machines and a linuxbox.
<1> monkieboy: no, I switched to irssi.
<0> i found an open ap down the road a few miles with dhcp running flippin out ips on a full public cl*** c
<3> hmmm, trying to autoload a script
<3> failing
<0> Delwin if they dont tinker then shouldn't be to bad
<1> set up a .ircrc or whatever?
<4> Redragon^ it's not that - it's having something to connect to in the first place.
<4> ...bah
<2> Redragon^ - cl*** c's, business?
<0> bron: http://www.red-dragon.com/network.jpg
<0> harpoontang as in a /24
<4> Reverting to WEP104, screw it.
<0> believe it belonged to the phone company but not sure, i was just roaming around to see what got picked up
<2> Redragon^ - time to setup a clandestine server ;)
<0> it was when i first got my wireless nic with external antenae
<0> i have a really cool external ant for my orinoco gold
<1> heh
<1> my T23 has much better reception than this little minipci card can deliver.
<2> theres a local realestate company, biggest in town here that all their offices wifi and completely open. If I didn't fear being prosecuted I'd tell them their IT staff are a bunch of jack***es.
<0> in most areas, if you haven't attempted to access their network, there is no crime committed
<1> err, cardbus not minipci
<2> Well, I wanted to see how open it was. I could access shares and printers.
<0> wonder what kinda trouble someone would get on if you printed some interesting printers buahahaha
<2> The crime should be on the shoulders of their IT staff.....
<2> Really, thats just negligent.
<1> Redragon^: like... in big red letters, "YOUR NETWORK IS INSECURE"?
<1> heheh
<2> hehe
<3> nice, the .ircrc worked. thanks
<1> no prob.
<3> terribly complex
<3> :-)
<1> hehehe
<3> almost as bad as printing
<1> groan.
<0> like that network bron?
<1> a bit fancy.
<0> i need more boxen buahahaha
<1> yeah, my network here is actually sort of complicated.
<0> the most fun to work out was the dual gateways of isdn and sat
<1> switch->voip_router->wap->laptop
<2> whats with the satellite dish?
<1> other layout is switch->wireless_router->other_peoples_machines
<1> harpoontang: he's in the sticks.
<2> ah
<0> but it really ****s imo, will drop it soon as i can
<2> Thats gotta ****
<0> can't even download isos or they get cranky
<1> haha
<0> they have a 350 meg limit per 4 hours
<2> Redragon^ what part of the world do you live?
<1> he lives in steers and queers land.
<2> Texas?
<1> (oh, did I say that out loud? heheh)
<6> rumour has it, texas is a fine place for y'all to have a big ol' time
<1> hehehe
<2> huh....he don't look like a steer
<0> delwin broke his network...
<3> greatest state in union
<2> Well thats pretty flat land out there isn't it?
<3> depends on where in texas
<0> i'm in the middle of the woods atm
<7> any ideas why is it i cant traceroute my other public ip? considering that is used and switched on
<7> ?
<3> east texas is woods
<2> Dude, set up a 802.11b point to point. I hear they've gotten a workign signal as far as 120 miles away.
<3> through the woods
<1> it's funny... so many friends of mine running ratpoison now.
<0> kernel20 where does it stop?
<7> Redragon^: when i do traceroute mypublicIP it only marks 8
<7> Redragon^: when i do traceroute mypublicIP it only marks *
<7> i mean
<0> do you have ping blocked by firewall?
<7> if i try to ping it i can ping it
<1> harpoontang: I've heard of no more than 10 miles, but that was a while ago.
<7> but trace route cant
<7> nop
<0> do you have a decent firewall? traceroute uses a special port too
<2> Bronaugh I havent actually read anything but someone was trying to get to go to some website where he said they had a 120mile link.
<7> what port?
<6> from memory, port is To port something, you translate the code for a program from one platform to another. You could port a program you wrote on a PC over to a Macintosh, for example. Port, or for TCP and UDP port numbers, see the IANA's list at http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/***ignments/port-numbers
<2> I was familiar with the 10 mile link
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