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<0> and data is streamed in/out of them
<1> romanzzz: ah apologies i got you on a different way
<0> it's hard to explain cuz a lot of understanding it has to do with context, conceptualization, semantics... determination of which it is can be subjective
<2> np, any ideas though, I am fairly sure that neither wget or curl will do it.
<2> there are other programs I have seen like alex, but they don't support p***word authentication.
<0> read a little bit on it and i'm sure you'll have a better understanding of it than i have... it's been years since i read anything on it really
<0> what is the term for that? pipelining?
<0> bleh, i forget
<3> Hmm. Them being file descriptors, I ***ume the flow initates as something writing to that fd, then something else reading from it. So basically, the 0,1,2 fds have no business in (bash) redirection.
<3> I'm just thinking out loud and may be off, since i have no thorough clue of this.
<4> xWhat is the question? :-P
<3> Debating proper naming for bash io redirection.
<3> Heh. "IO redirection" seems most explanatory
<0> not much of a debate really :P. it's pretty standard to refer to file manipulations as file redirection
<0> err
<0> i mean manipulations that use <, >, >> and the stdin/stdout/stderr descriptors



<0> and &
<0> i learned about that stuff in like the first intro-to-linux tutorials i read and stuff
<0> well, i'm sure you did too... i guess it was just referred to as something else
<5> ibm lpi courses are good for that too
<5> heh, only 24pages
<0> good for what? mislabling principle ideas and such?
<0> mislabeling*
<0> ...i think
<5> no to learn about basic linux stuff
<0> ahh
<5> io redirection and stuff
<0> yeah
<0> i learned with a couple of unix command tutorials at first
<0> then i bought linux for dummies cuz it came with redhat5.2 and read that
<0> hehe
<0> i ended up getting like 5 books just cuz they came with linux distros on 'em and read most all of 'em
<0> hehe
<0> the linux network, linux for dummies, slackware for dummies, teach yourself linux in 24 hrs...
<6> SQL On Rails
<5> well i havent used much books, but I've gotten plenty of years of hands experience now
<0> broadband was unavailable in the area at my time and there was no where in town to buy an actual packaged distro until they built a bestbuy a couple of years later
<0> s/my/the
<5> evening longword
<0> i've got a lot of books...i don't think i've read half of them though
<0> a lot of them were a few years old when i got 'em, heh. my friend's mom who was a programmer/admin gave 'em to me when i was like 17, haha
<0> most of 'em i've never touched more than a few minutes
<0> i think i've read all of the ones i've picked out though
<0> except a few sections of linux programming: by example and mastering algorithms with c (that one had too much math i couldn't get past :()
<0> sorry, i'll shutup
<0> oh wait, no i won't
<0> trying to config an apache2 dev server on a different distro
<0> i'm trying to maintain the config setup but it's getting to be a bit of a pain
<0> the new server is on ubuntu
<0> it is saying: [Sat Apr 01 02:35:28 2006] [error] [client 192.168.0.4] File does not exist: /htdocs
<0> however i am not issuing a request for htdocs and 'htdocs' doesn't appear anywhere in my config
<5> when do you get the error?
<0> when i connect to the server with http://192.168.0.5 in my browser
<0> you can see for yourself at www.mentalcases.net:81
<7> what does the wwwroot directive say ?
<0> wwwroot? i've never seen that before, heh. DocumentRoot is set to /var/www
<7> my mistake ;)
<0> grep -r htdocs /etc/apache only reports mention of htdocs in README and this comment: magic:# The module is described in htdocs/manual/mod/mod_mime_magic.html
<0> s/htdocs/htdoc
<0> [Sat Apr 01 09:05:16 2006] [error] [client 80.202.254.179] File does not exist: /htdocs
<8> how can I see the memory consumed by an application ?
<0> kman___: ps, top or look at /proc
<5> yay
<5> finished work for today!
<5> well
<9> what on?
<10> it has been said that on is not off
<5> what off?
<9> on off?
<6> Off Broadway
<5> off on?
<9> EEK! hes awake
<9> topic was ALL sirmaxxz idea! Honest
<5> !exec rev topic was ALL sirmaxxz idea! Honest
<5> !exec -o rev topic was ALL sirmaxxz idea! Honest
<5> rev: topic: No such file or directory



<5> rev: was: No such file or directory
<5> rev: ALL: No such file or directory
<5> rev: sirmaxxz: No such file or directory
<5> rev: idea!: No such file or directory
<5> rev: Honest: No such file or directory
<5> eek :)
<9> do WHAT now luv?
<5> flood!!
<9> well it has rained a fair bit today
<5> not here
<5> yay jackie chan!
<9> hi ho min
<9> or whatever the heck its supposed to be
<5> ni hao
<9> that as well luv
<5> !seen digiobi
<10> digiobi <~askme@digiobi.users.undernet.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #linuxhelp, d h m s ago, saying: 'good nigth purp/alia'.
<0> http://pastebin.com/634631
<5> !seen D-side
<10> d-side <~brian@darkside.users.undernet.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #linuxhelp, d h m s ago, saying: 'so long as its really derrogatory and insulting, i love it.'.
<5> !cookie
<10> Hey sirmaxxz, rfc2206 is RSVP Management Information Base using SMIv2. F. Baker, J. Krawczyk, A. Sastry. September 1997. (Format: TXT=112937 bytes) (Status: PROPOSED STANDARD)
<11> sirmaxxz: he's in #linux
<5> good let's keep him there
<11> sirmaxxz: don't like him?
<5> d-side . who does
<9> [19:26:17] #linux unable to join channel (address is banned)
<9> lol
<11> he's never had a bernaise sauce before
<11> I have a headache... either too much beer last night or too much coffee this morning
<12> Gaia^: it's visible that everybody in there loves you hehe.
<9> or too little of either
<12> bbl, restart. dbus updated.
<5> oh oh oh
<5> 275 days
<5> only 90 more days to gooo
<11> sirmaxxz: i need a UPS before I can start my uptime challenge box
<5> yeah no ups here either
<5> its unusual we didnt have a power outage for thi slong
<11> we get outages with all the construction in the area usually only 1 or 2 minutes but enough to stop a computer
<5> we usually have one every severe thunder storm
<11> I gave my server a rest for 5 days while I was waiting on my new cable service, switched from DSL
<5> good
<9> 1st break since me dad went
<5> i'm going to give myself a rest monday or tuesday
<9> was kinda neat
<5> been working 12hour days for the last 4days now
<5> I just hope they wont page me tomorrow
<9> battery runs out on pager, then ya will be ok
<11> I work 8 or 9 hours a day, spend another 6 hours at the university, another 2 doing homework
<5> fun
<9> ? shrug, done 12+ hour days for more than a decade, so what?
<11> the great part is the university is right here at home at least for another 56 weeks
<0> could using <Directory> before specifying a DocumentRoot cause a problem?
<11> then it will be in Eugene :)
<13> hello, somebody knows where debian (sarge) manage the cron .logs ?
<3> sinthetek: shouldn't
<13> isnt in /var/logs
<9> SOOOO nice to see the bots getting along
<0> yeah, i see a couple like that in my other httpd.conf...
<5> and as usual the 'female' bot needs to have the final word
<0> pepelandia: with most cron daemons, any output or errors are emailed to root@localhost
<0> afaik
<11> who is that anyways, they been fighting over that character for umm 2 years now I think
<13> sinthetek i didnt receive any mail
<9> sirmaxxz she was Only demonstarting Who was da boss was all :)
<0> pepelandia: what sort of output are you expecting?
<0> pepelandia: you said ubuntu, right? it looks like they use vixiecron by default. from the man page:
<0> When executing commands, any output is mailed to the owner of the crontab (or to the user named in the MAILTO environment variable in the crontab, if such exists). The children copies of cron running these processes have their name coerced to uppercase, as will be seen in the syslog and ps output.
<11> haha
<0> looks like i was mistaken... i thought it always defaulted to root... i usually don't schedule cron jobs as a regular user :P
<14> !seen longword


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