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<0> weird
<0> ahh well, no 7pm student tonight
<1> hehe
<1> Tron: how many clients?
<2> K_F: About ~22 at that time
<1> could have been worse then... IT messed up at my school recently, 2000-3000 clients disconnected
<2> Ouch
<0> heh, woops
<1> they are running a god damn microsoft hosted citrix server
<0> whats citrix do?
<1> the clients are linux, but the server.... has been consultants from three different firms and not figured out the problem
<0> erm, linux clients and a MS server? usually its backwards
<1> what you get for cutting costs by going directly at one delivery rather than hiring someone for a full solution
<1> docfu: linux client that execute a remote desktop connection to a windows terminal server
<0> ahh
<1> now, if 2,000 students execute SPSS at the same time



<1> ... go figure it goes to a halt
<2> docfu: Citrix is essentially a very big kludge sitting atop an even bigger kludge (Terminal Services).
<1> (for those unfamiliar with SPSS: http://www.kfwebs.net/news/344/The-application-formerly-known-as--Statistical-Package-for-the-Social-Sciences )
<0> You know, some days I wonder how all of this technology is supposed to make our lives better?
<2> docfu: It doesn't. It's a complete myth.
<0> I can see things like instant messaging, email, and print sharing useful to a company
<1> docfu: this as well could have been good if the server was properly scaled
<2> docfu: No no, all those do is make human being's lives more inconvenient.
<1> the workaround is simply to bring my own laptop though
<1> and I don't have to worry about flunky terminal servers
<1> but at first they actually disabled 802.11b
<1> on a fricking 802.11g network
<0> er
<0> isn't G better?
<1> g is backwards compatible to b
<1> b is 11Mbit, g is 54
<0> but it slows down right?
<1> but my ipw2100 is b only
<1> so was the computers of 1000 other students
<1> so they backed down on that one
<1> the thing was, when it was disabled nobody could use the wifi, not even g
<1> becuase of the noise
<1> when they enabled b all got a connection so the noise level reduced
<1> it is part of the story that we recently moved to a new facility, so some hickups were expected
<1> three schools were brought together as one large one
<1> 8000 students and 600 faculty
<3> getting my printer working is a pain
<3> lots of emerge
<2> phillyshreds: Gentoo user?
<2> *fingerdrum*
<2> phillyshreds: Because if you are a Gentoo user, don;t bleat in here about how much trouble it is to do XYZ. A) it's your own ****ing fault for using Gentoo, and B) We don't care.
<1> Tron: I agree halfway there at least :)
<0> HAHA
<1> phillyshreds: use whichever distro you want but don't bitch about it
<1> go read a manual or two
<0> oops, sounds like the definition for a slackware user
<0> phillyshreds go figure itout for yourself
<2> K_F: Only because you use gentoo too, you ****ing Linux Ricer you.
<1> hehe
<1> Tron: but I don't bitch about it :)
<0> welp
<0> one more cl*** tonight
<1> I have weekend now after I completed my presentation
<0> CNN is a bitch of a news site
<0> nothing simple or happy
<2> docfu: Simple, happy news is not news.
<2> docfu: "NEWFLASH: Someone in California is happy!111!" doesn't work.
<2> "BREAKING NEWS : Outbreaks of happiness and joy are happening in various places around the world. Scientists are mystified"
<2> Doesn't work either.
<0> "Everybody got some."
<2> However, "BREAKING NEWS : GODZILLA ATTACKS THE WHITEHOUSE" will get people's attention.
<0> "Work grinds to a halt as ugly people kill themselves and good looking people screw their lives away"
<0> Dude...
<0> Anyone have an interesting google video for me to show?
<3> ok ok
<3> i got everything working but the printer
<2> I've not managed to view a google video. Ever. Not with Linux+Firefox.
<0> works fine in windows
<2> Yeah, well.
<3> gentoo is hard to configure but i don't know much about linux anyway



<3> but in one week i learned a lot
<0> so i guess linux really doesn't work does it?
<0> what about the whole the linux is better thing?
<3> i think they each have their pros and cons
<3> windows is easier and my sound card sounds 1000x better
<4> hi guys and gals
<3> but that's about it
<0> How about windows works
<0> and linux is a learning experience?
<2> docfu: It could just be that I haven't bothered my arse to reconfigure **** to get it working, because I don't particularly care anyways. :)
<0> Tron ever play with a mac mini?
<3> yeah that's true
<2> docfu: nope.
<3> i got bored of playing with linux and i've never been able to get all my hardware working in linux
<3> so i downloaded the hardest to use distro
<2> docfu: Another thing I'm not particularly fussed about.
<0> Tron I've heard good things about them but moving away from XP makes me nervous
<3> which i heard was gentoo
<2> phillyshreds: There is no "hardest to use distro".
<5> just because You can't make some linux distro work well with all your hardware doesn't mean windows > linux.
<3> i just need to figure out what i'm going to do about my NTFS 200 GB drive that is 90% full
<0> On XP I know I can play any number of games, view any number of movies and basically be 100% crash-compatible :)
<2> phillyshreds: There is "What distro will consume the least amount of my valuable time".
<0> meow hey, i'm trolling, be quiet ;)
<2> phillyshreds: And in that repect, Gentoo is low on that list.
<1> if anyone is interested http://www.kfwebs.net/news/501/Presentation-about-OpenPGP
<6> Hi, I have a notebook and I change the network settings every time I go to home/work/school/.. Has anyone written a script to ask at bootup the settings you need ?
<7> andrewss: Several people, depending on the distro.
<6> well I just need a sample so I don't start reinventing the wheel. I'll code it based upon that
<2> And the /whois didn't look good either.
<8> re
<9> OM
<8> Cynic
<4> hi OM, Cynic, Tron, Shadur, docphoo
<8> tavi-san
<9> tavi-san
<10> Greetings > All
<11> Hi guys
<11> Has anyone tried the lemonparty.org distribution?
<12> did you lose all your money Cynic
<8> and if not, whose money did you lose?
<9> Sarah-: no, but the blinds are rising and i only have an average stack.. have to be aggressive but not stupid so i can keep up ;)
<1> HongFire: that reminded me of a joke I pulled on someone the other day
<1> Mar 21 18:52:11 <braddoro> if someone wanted to nab braddoro.org and make it a porn site, i don't care
<1> Mar 21 18:56:51 <1> braddoro: http://www.braddoro.org
<12> i dont like poker, i like blackjack though
<1> ... forwarded it to lemonparty :)
<9> OldMonk: ideally, i lose money, err. *from* drunken internet gamblers ;)
<8> some romulan is trying to haxqu0r a server i manage, any way to report and get some action?
<1> I have donated the domain to him now though, so it is safe
<9> OldMonk: i've had the same plenty of times, i just ***umed noone would listen to be honest, so I never bothered.
<1> OldMonk: brute-force or?
<9> there may be some bigger .ro ISPs that would treat it seriously
<8> ssh brute-force i think
<8> i've blocked the ***hole, but still...
<1> no use
<12> why not just like let him in and put all these awesome looking files that he might want but really they are all just viruses
<12> then he will go off and own himself
<1> OldMonk: my recommendation is PKI only systems
<1> anyways, otherwise you have http://www.dshield.org/
<9> Sarah-: he won't though, he'll try to install a rootkit, **** it up, and just use the box to ssh brute other random boxes
<9> that's how it goes
<1> on and on and on and on and on and on ........
<8> K_F: can't afford to do that, not until o get some mobile 'net access at least
<8> s/o/i/
<1> OldMonk: what kind of system is this? security by obscurity might reduce the load (change port number)
<9> w00t, eights beats AKo ;)
<1> OldMonk: also look into iptables's limit rate on connections
<1> and I also run a script against the auth.log file that bans too many unsuccessful logins
<8> can do that, or i just need to upgrade
<1> upgrade?
<1> brute-forces doesn't care about the version


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