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<0> see ya D-side
<1> Lion-O: you still away from home?
<0> whyzzyrd: yeah. It won't be too long now since my grandmother is /very/ well recovering. In on,ly 3 days I watched her going from hardly being able to do anything to coming out of bed and into a chair, drinking tea, etc. almost entirely on her own.
<1> Lion-O: Good to hear it.
<2> some of you guys netscreen IDP products right?
<0> whyzzyrd: it makes it a lot more bearable, I can ***ure you that
<1> fredk_: I've an intense distrust of IPS.
<2> whyzzyrd, you dont like them? :)
<1> fredk_: If the FP rates are anything like the IDS's, they must block a ****-heap of legit traffic.
<3> whyzzyrd: IPS can be very very very dangerous. But it can be valuable if it's managed by people with clue.
<2> whyzzyrd, the IDP actually does prevention, well according to the site
<3> whyzzyrd: there are some basic rules to IPS that a lot of dip****s won't adhere to, and it gives all IPS implementation a bad name.
<2> this guy I know bought a dell server off of ebay and it came with netscreen IDP cds shrinkwrapped
<1> siglite: The problem is that it's not just the admin needing clue, it's the software on the IPS allowing them to apply it.
<3> whyzzyrd: hehe, yeah, even our own solution will happily let you apply block rules for alerts that can be a single UDP packet.
<1> RelDrgn: Perl6, isn't that the one that Larry said "will give you the big knob"?
<4> re
<1> siglite: I have a fairly fundamental distrust of the IPS stuff. Mainly the "Our Luser FW admin will set it to block lots of stuff that shouldn't be", and "How in hell does it do this on 2G of traffic at wire speed".
<2> whyzzyrd, some of them come with special circuitry to do this .)
<2> like how expensive *** routers come with special hardware to allow for high speed routing ;)
<1> fredk_: Aye, ASIC's and such.
<2> Yep
<2> obviously you could probably pay bunc of indians to do realtime filtering within apache
<2> for the same price ;)
<1> fredk_: These are not in the majority though
<2> whyzzyrd, on apache though, you can use mod_sec and have similar results to the IDS devices
<2> DaveHowe, what did they do?
<1> fredk_: I have no objection to things that parse the requests, and check for validity before executing..
<2> whyzzyrd, and much cheaper ;)
<5> fredk: their usual moneygrubbing tricks - in this case, sold us a 3des capable 877, without supplying the vpn client
<1> fredk_: as usual. Defined their own idea of something as the industry standard, and then started charging $bignum for it.
<2> haha
<2> well, they are evil:)
<1> DaveHowe: You bought one without the 3DES designation in the part no?
<5> fredk: now, reseller is offering to sell us (and post to us) a cd with the vpn client that we could have downloaded from the cisco site had we been able to buy directly from cisco...
<5> whyzzyrd: it has a 3des ios, just fine
<2> DaveHowe, I hate their reseller system
<1> DaveHowe: so, you're using it as a VPN server, not a VPN client?
<2> Infact, if theres one thing I hate about the big companies its their reseller/regional systems
<5> whyzzyrd: yup. which means I need a vpn client for it - so they are offering to sell me one
<6> hi all
<6> can i ask suse-related questions here?
<2> like how Cyclades charges EUR 5K for a $4K console server in EMEA
<7> hendrix: Depends
<8> guys, i love my books marks today, can i have this channels website once again ?
<8> *love = lost
<6> I don't want the user account list to show at logon screen
<6> i use KDE
<1> ChaMeLioN: it's in the topic
<8> /topic #linux
<8> sorry whyzzyrd i couldnt find one in the topic, that was the reason i was asking in the chanenl
<8> *** [#linux] topic- (none)
<8> thats what i came up with
<7> http://faq.linuxops.net/
<8> thanks Ka-bar, whyzzyrd
<7> hendrix: then go read the documentation for kdm and figure out how to change it.
<0> hmm. at times lke these I'm quite happy with my webmail ;-)
<0> hendrix: check the login manager settings in th conrol panel. RTFM comes to mind.
<6> yeah i know
<0> hendrix: so why ask? feeligjn stupid or something?
<6> it's cause i gotta disable this thing in a hurry, gotta leave
<0> <yawn>
<0> hendrix: so start doing it NOW.
<6> and second, cause i'm not good at speaking english
<0> w00t. my first remote-kick ;-) I'm so proud ;-)
<7> what took you so long? ;)
<0> Ka-bar: hmm, this keyboard isn' the best for this stuff ;-) Besides; I have other things on my head anyway.
<0> yo Emerson
<7> yo
<9> hey I need to find a on site tech in waterloo, belgium.. any one know of any companies?
<9> hey Lion-O, Ka-bar
<6> Lion-O is another ****tard on a power trip, full of acne, hiding behind his computer screen cause he'd get your *** kicked in the streets anytime
<9> lol
<9> Lion-O: looks like you have a fan
<0> rofl
<0> silly dead rabbt.
<9> silly wabbit, ****s are for chicks .. *ducks*
<0> rofl!
<0> ah, 40, time to prepare the medication.
<0> bbiab
<2> Lion-O needs his medication huh
<2> Why am I not surprised
<10> i think its for his grandmother. :/
<7> gah... playing musical desks in the office. my turn to move...
<11> hello all... I've got a newbie linux/usb question. anyone who can help?
<1> M_: You got an internet connection that works yet?
<12> :)
<12> don't know yet....will see:D
<1> lol.
<5> right, bed time
<1> [Full-disclosure] SECURITY ADVISORY: FLAVIA BEVERAGE MACHINE
<5> and thanks again whyzzyrd - owe you a pint :)
<1> DaveHowe: see if it works first..
<1> night
<9> night whyzzyrd
<13> poof
<9> hey nan
<9> what the heck, does Belgium not have any on site computer repair companies?
<13> Emerson: Nope. But if your waffle falls apart whilst flipping..
<2> a thousand cases worth of smirnoff ice was stolen in denmark
<2> thats one hell of a afternoon party for teens :P
<13> fredk_: Someone's throwing a party.
<13> fredk_: Heh.
<13> fredk_: linkage?
<2> nothing in english that I can see
<0> here we go
<0> fredk_: nah, my grandma needs hers to counter the infection.
<2> Ah ;)
<0> fredk_: still doing nightshifts but its fortunatly coming to an end prettys oon now considering how well she's recovering.
<2> hehe
<0> fredk_: one 7 day week doing this from approx. 20:30 to 10:30 is rough ;P
<2> eww yea
<0> but well, IMO its something you owe your familiy no matter what. At least I have internet for a few hours.
<13> Lion-O
<0> Nanuq: !
<2> Lion-O, well, it's family..you cant really say no
<0> fredk_: true, but you can always come up with alternatives. In this case it was me who wouldn't have any o fthat.
<13> Lion-O: how goes, comrade?
<0> Nanuq: so so ;-) Working all night and sleeping all day :) doing nightshift, you ?
<13> Lion-O: Enjoying wine and day-old pizza.
<2> Nanuq, interesting combo ;)
<13> Lion-O: Back from $work. Tomorrow is half goof-off today, with Canada Day upon us.
<13> er
<13> s/today/day/
<0> w00t
<0> sounds good.
<13> Lion-O: Then I have Friday through Tuesday off
<13> Lion-O: Not using a single day of vacation for it, either.
<0> Nanuq: hmm :) Its the only thing I omewhat miss in being self employed; the holidays and free days.
<0> hi libolt
<14> hey Lion-O
<10> back.
<9> hey libolt
<14> hey Emerson, D-side etc
<14> Emerson: dude he's got a girlfriend, his nads are no longer in his custody *duck* :)
<9> lol
<13> libolt: well once they're sold off to the highest bidder, in order to meet alimony..
<10> gf != wife
<10> f all that.
<10> so i'm flat broke, right
<10> gf says shes making $blah for dinner
<10> "hell no i'm not eating that. give me $ and i'll go get my own dinner."
<14> D-side: yeah the only difference is once you're married, you're never getting them back :)
<13> blah for dinner? I've had that. rather blah.
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