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<0> Uh, no, actually it's not.
<1> there is a color code for each pixel
<1> and there is a list of colors to choose from for each xpm
<0> If you're going to make these sorts of changes, you really need to let the Xorg people know that the drawing primitives they think they have implemented don't actually work across the wire.
<1> the list is specified first, at the beginning of the xpm, and then comes the pixmap which references back to the start of the file
<1> they do work
<1> they are just slow
<2> g'evening all
<1> the main differences between a pure bitmap and an xpm are that a bitmap doesn't have a pallete specification in its file and that xpm is ascii
<0> I'm not even sure I want to know what you think you mean by "widget awareness".
<1> mwilson - for example - a gtk2 button has to be described using an xpm over the wire rather than by just saying 'gtkbutton'
<0> Wrong again.
<1> nope
<0> Man, you're really batting zero tonight.
<1> if that doesn't happen, captain, what does
<3> lol
<0> Nothing happens. X11 is network-transparent, fool.
<1> uh
<1> yeah...
<0> Same drawing primitives, whether the X server is on the same box as the client, or on a box a thousand miles away.
<1> and those pretty pictures you see in your exported X11 sessions, those have to be drawn somehow, and your X11 server has to know how to draw them
<1> and guess what - it can't say "this is a gtk2button" it has to say "this is the xpm for this area"
<0> Man, you REALLY have no idea how X works.
<1> yeah - the gtk2button code creates the xpm and sends it on over
<1> uh yeah i do
<0> Wrong yet AGAIN.
<1> i've written a full window manager
<1> how so?
<3> wwhich ?
<1> Tsunami nothing i released, it wasn't anything better than anything else, i just wanted to learn x11
<0> Tsunami: I think he actually believes this.
<1> mwilson again, what am i wrong about?
<1> you seem incapable of providing facts - only rhetoric
<0> neonfreon: Didn't learn much while doing it, then.
<1> <0> yo are wrong because i can use caps to say so
<4> later
<3> silly kid really
<3> he never bothered to even attempt to prove his point
<5> is this a help channel?
<3> define help
<0> Alterman: No.
<5> i'm trying to figure out if i've d/l the correct cd to run linux of a live cd
<5> i have Ubuntu 5.10, i've been running it for a while
<5> now i've decided to d/l 6.10
<6> Alterman: the distro's website is generally a good place to start checking.
<3> im gonna go on a limb here and say that you probably didnt...
<5> it's hell in there
<5> i can't sort things out on that website
<0> *Ubuntu's* web site is hell? Why bother lying about it?
<5> anyhow, i have 1 simple question
<0> Just admit you couldn't be bothered to look, and get on with it.
<5> Ubuntu 5.10 live cd was called ubuntu powerpc breezy
<5> 6.10 is called edgy
<0> Yes, so?
<5> mwilson i'm still on their website
<0> Again, so?
<3> Alterman, what LiveCD are you looking for?
<5> Ubuntu liveCD for PPC
<5> i have 5.10, but that's 1 or 2 years old
<3> type that exact sentence in google
<0> Gods only know why you'd want Ubuntu as a live CD... installed on your HD is bad enough. So why aren't you downloading the PPC image, again?
<5> i did d/l the DMG
<5> that's the only one i could find
<3> its not a DMG
<3> its an ISO
<3> you're on a Mac right?
<5> yes
<5> so dmg is an HDD install
<3> burn that new ISO file with Disk Utility
<3> no
<3> DMG = Disk iMaGe file
<5> should i unpack it and burn the files?
<3> no
<3> run Disk Utility
<3> click on Burn
<3> select the .iso file
<3> and then let it burn
<0> Gods, why can't he at least read the instructions.
<3> hrmm
<5> i know all this stuff
<3> this is a good way to burn off karma...
<5> it's just that i'm not sure if that's the correct file i've d/l
<5> because of the name and file content
<0> Alterman: Actually, all you're demonstrating is that you don't know anything at all.
<5> but like tsunami said, it's an upgrade
<3> >_<
<5> so it has to be different
<5> i'll burn it with Toast titanum
<3> ignore the contents
<3> do that
<3> you do know how to boot from CD right ?
<0> Uh, you'd use Toast instead of Disk Utility because...?
<0> Well?
<5> mwilson toast burns .iso
<0> Yes, so does Disk Utility.
<5> disk utility is a piece of ****e
<0> Alterman: Really. How do you figure that?
<5> i only use it to check disk and repair disk permissions
<0> Yes, and after all you have to repair permissions SO often.
<3> hehe
<5> 1 do it once per month
<3> regardless
<3> burn that damn image file and reboot
<0> So you're clueless about MacOS, as well as Linux, huh?
<5> mwilson, don't you have something better to do?
<5> mwilson i'm pretty good with Mac OS 10
<0> Alterman: Not that you've shown so far.
<5> mwilson i bet i'm better than you
<5> unless you work for apple
<5> or a mac repair shop
<0> You go right on ahead believing that. It's good to have a goal.
<7> bloody kleenex
<3> *burp*
<5> mwilson you should be more positive about things
<7> mwilson you should be more bloody about kleenex
<5> that way you could be more productive like mr. Tsunami here
<7> that way you could be more bloody like mr. Kleenex here
<5> that way we could help spread Linux around more efficient
<5> finally
<5> i'll give it a spin
<3> Linux will pick its own users....
<0> Why does every cluebie try that "spread Linux around" stupidity?
<3> *shrug*
<3> mwilson, ever messed around with ppc virtualization ?
<0> Virtualizing a PPC, or virtualization ON a PPC, like Parallels?
<3> the latter
<3> i've been messing around with trying to get Darwin to play nice with Xen
<0> No experience with Xen.
<3> ic
<8> and I'm off for work
<3> later
<9> w00t
<10> for x in `seq 1 10`; do echo "hello $x times!"; done
<10> no one alive tonight?
<11> reading
<10> man pages?
<10> Any sys admins in here?
<11> rsimpkins: if you have a question, ask it
<10> no question, here mostly for the social aspect really.
<10> If that's okay.
<10> I was just curious if there were any SAs in here, hoping to talk shop, etc.
<11> in theory I am
<11> in reality I'm a bum. go ahead.
<10> What kinda system you admin? All Linux?
<11> nah, linux is ****e
<12> *that* would be a boring job.
<11> smooth_: being a bum?
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