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<0> err
<1> wow man
<2> Simba!
<0> PuTTY on the iPAQ
<0> cheehs!
<0> there... a real virtual keyboard
<2> chee what?
<2> :o/
<0> this has got to be the geekiest thing i've done so far ;)
<2> yeah, spelling says so...
<3> grep is my life
<0> Cheeks! ;-)
<2> :-p
<0> oh wel.. 4:51 and i need to get up at 8 :-/
<4> cheeksy!



<2> Eric :o)
<2> Lion-O: welcome to my world :o)
<0> c'mon, why not do a nice dance ?
<0> oh well.., time for sleep before i wake up the neighbor ;-)
<5> pfft...wake up the neighbor then go to sleep
<6> man, i got a lotta work to do to move all my **** over to this vps
<7> dogbert2: I doubt Lion-O wants to suffer neutering by way of soda can while he sleeps
<8> what the ****. next new episode of bsg is in 2 weeks. what the **** are tv networks doing to seasons ...
<7> making sure to piss you off
<1> nah makes sense.
<1> next sunday is the superbowl.
<2> Simba: sleep well and you really really don't need to see THE dance :o)
<6> next sunday is my birthday
<6> and my colts are playing
<6> i'm getting *****ed up*
<1> and they're going to lose
<6> who's gonna beat 'em? the bears!?
<1> so, two out of three ain't bad. :D
<6> hahahaa
<1> jlgaddis: you say that now. :D
<1> man, scifi's site is getting pounded
<9> what on god's green earth is an 'operator-***isted text message'
<10> hi all
<11> hola OldMonk
<10> Zymurgy
<10> anyone got a topic?
<11> sure, take your pick :)
<11> [2.6.19.2] * FAQ: http://faq.linuxops.net * <digi> im not a ****ing idiot im just retarded
<10> thanks :)
<12> todos aki son hackers!!
<10> WaKy: english
<10> cheeksy
<11> the return of the cheeked one
<12> i dont not speak english!
<11> thats unfortunate
<13> you know it will be a new day when a scifi show outranks a jock game
<13> and even then it will probably be Seti-alpha-5 cheetaurs vs the jock dudes from Kebsington in a all out death brawl!
<4> XyZzY, Zym
<9> anyone here watch stargate sg-1 or atlantis?
<3> no tv
<3> well, no cable actually
<9> same here, but I noticed that a friend of mine is watching stargate altnatis season 3
<14> Mennonite: yes
<9> yet it's not airing on scifi until april 07?
<11> hola Nanuq
<9> same is true with sg-1
<3> my coworker watches battlestar galactica during work though, does that count?
<9> lol
<3> i try not to bother him with all the "work" that needs to be done so that he won't feel that i'm impeding his sci-fi intake
<9> what kind of insane workplace is this
<3> you wouldn't want to know
<3> it's not a very fun place to work
<3> however, he gets away with everything some how
<3> 6 months so far, and he's not been reprimanded
<2> Menno :o)
<3> maybe it's because the management likes battlestar too?
<6> hmm, i should add spf records to dns for my domains
<6> i know it's getting late when the girls gone wild commercials start coming on comedy central
<6> moot: you don't work at a university in indiana, do you? =)
<15> anyone have any ideas on why X11 ****s so bad over networks compared to RDP
<16> g'morning



<17> neonfreon: So use RDP, then.
<15> thanks for not answering my question at all mwilson
<15> i suspect rdp may use some widget level network transparency
<15> whereas X11 is probably all window level
<15> just sending over ****in' bitmapz
<17> Shows what you know.
<15> how so
<15> that's a well known problem with x
<15> u can't change the status of a widget easily over the network
<15> the widgets are all server side and the client just gets pure x11 window updates
<17> Apparently only in your little world does X only send bitmaps across the network.
<15> instead of "widget4321 = clicked" it's "redraw this area to have an x"
<15> uh have you ever done any x coding
<15> not gtk or qt or anything, but directly with x
<15> and yeah it's not gonna use bitmaps it'll use pixmaps
<15> this is how you can get a perfectly drawn gtk2 button via an exported x session on a system with gtk2 not installed - it sends over a damn pixmap of the button
<7> hrm we should put neonfreon and DanielS in a ring and let them hash it out.. though we might lose too many brain cells doing that.
<15> libolt do you contribute or just stand on the sidelines and heckle?
<13> belated j0 Nanuq
<15> do you deny that X11 lacks built in knowledge of widgets in its protocol, thus greatly decreasing its effeciency
<7> I have never bothered to dig into the X11 internals, I leave that to people with far more time than I have
<13> however X11 has one advantage. the program does not have to be running on the machine it is displaying on.
<7> neonfreon: you'd be better off to ask people that hang out in an X development related channel on say freenode or somewhere, or perhaps the xorg mailing lists than jabber on here like a useless monkey
<13> don't see any reason why you could no 'export' objects to the remote station to give it that kind of speedups.kinda like what Java does really
<13> it is like what IBM does with remote terminal controllers. they have limited brains. it really gets into clicnt server based programming and what can be/will be done on a client vs a server somewhere
<18> How do i get a working Videx driver? is it related to OS, Kernel? Nvidia card i use?
<13> little be hardware, little bit kernel, little be reading docs
<13> s/be/bit/
<18> So where do i start google is of no use to me
<6> hmm
<6> godaddy wants two hostnames, but how do you give it hostnames that don't yet exist? =)
<7> jlgaddis: a representative from ICANN will be at your door shortly with a ray gun to fix your problem
<18> u sure its not after the DNS servers
<10> Adydas: please spell your words
<6> yes, it's after their hostnames, which are ns1 and ns2.domain.com
<6> however, while those are set up in bind, nothing knows about those nameservers
<18> huh
<19> hello everybody
<19> i have a problem .. while installing kde on gentoo ..
<19> To support Video4Linux webcams in this package is required to have
<19> =x11-libs/qt-3* compiled with OpenGL support.
<19> Please reemerge =x11-libs/qt-3* with USE="opengl".
<19> how to solve that ?
<20> hello, i need some guidelines for mounting a USB pen drive.. anyone willing to help me out??
<21> hi, any one here can help me simple firewall that can block p2p connection
<17> soldierman: Other than by actually following those instructions?
<22> soldierman, add opengl to your USE flags
<15> XyZzY yeah i think that's the approach RDP may take
<15> X11 is good because you never ever need anything but a server to export it to - all the libs and stuff are on the client side of the connection
<15> however this comes at the cost of no widget or library level awareness on part of the protocol
<15> i guess using vector gfx instead of glorified bitmaps would be an option too
<15> although it'd be more cpu intensive on the client side
<13> well the same goes for any 'directX' or opengl direct hardware manipulation code.
<15> hm?
<17> Is he still trying to demonstrate how he doesn't understand X11?
<15> i've never tried any hardware accelerated stuff over a network
<13> it totally byp***es the X11 primitives and manipulates the hardware directly
<15> mwilson how about you demonstrate that
<22> heh
<15> i think i understand it well enough
<15> XyZzY seems to understand
<17> Not if you're still going on about bitmaps.
<15> s/bitmaps/pixmaps
<15> xpm
<22> HW accelerated X11 over a network ?
<13> I am not a X guru either. so I don't know all the bits they have put in for optimization either
<15> it's just a glorified bitmap
<17> Except that it's not, of course.
<17> But don't let that stop you.
<22> hehe
<15> mwilson uh yeah actually it is
<17> Uh, no, actually it's not.


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