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<0> evilelf: Bah, these are 5mg. I can chew 3 and be fine :P
<1> falchion: are you in the military?
<0> That is one of the reasons I'm not a pillhead. In fact, I only want those percs because A> I need some to fall asleep from the pain B> So i can sell the extras for weed ;)
<0> Ritalin: hehe not anymore. Blew apart both my knees while I was in the Army and was med boarded out due to injuries.
<1> falchion: how long were you in? how common is it to get med boarded?
<1> I only ask because I'm probably being sworn in thursday
<2> hah
<3> Falchion: they ejected you because you are a godless heathen. tell the truth.
<0> kosmo: Motherless cur!
<0> Ritalin: What branchg?
<0> Ritalin: I did 3.5 years of a 3 year enlistment :) I was infantry though.
<0> evilelf: I won't lie: that's happened a ****load of times :)
<1> falchion: army
<0> Ritalin: hooah, mofo. What MOS?
<1> 09S :-p
<0> Ritalin: Which is...?
<4> Hrmm...
<1> OCS, I don't know what branch yet
<0> hahah you're gonna be an officer?? **** that ****, my friend.
<1> why?
<0> My old CO reocmmended me for green to Gold. I told him, "Sir, I don't want to be an officer. I want to be a soldier". I did a LOT of pushups for that.
<5> Ritalin: Because he was a grunt. He has to look down on officers for the system to work.
<0> Ritalin: Wasn't for me. I only wanted to be enlisted. Period. Enlisted Infantry.
<0> wlfshmn: Yup! :)
<0> Look, I have n othing against officers really. Some of my best targets were officers!
<0> Er, I mean...
<1> well on my OCS packet I have to list my choices for branches. infantry is the last choice
<0> haha no ****. Do NOT become an infantry officer. Go MI, medic or mechanic stuff.
<5> intelligence officer, now that might actually be neat
<2> falchion: that was a stupid comment to be honest... officer or not, you can be up front, with the gear or not :)
<2> hahahaha
<6> wlfshmn: before or after the required lobotomy? ;)
<0> evilelf: What's stupid? About not being an infantry officer
<0> ?
<2> falchion: yeah, payroll man
<5> RelDrgn: The lobotomy is included no matter what branch
<1> #1 choice is engineering. I asked the recruiter about being an officer in the medical branch and he said "um... that's like herding cats"
<0> evilelf: it has nothign to do with being with the gear or not. An infantryman's job is to die and kill (as people have said in this channel). While that can of course happen to all soldiers, that is an infantryman's actual job.
<5> Ritalin: I expect you get to herd around a lot of civilian doctors who automatically outrank you ;)
<1> doctors tend to do their own thing haha
<0> No they don't. The army puts too much money into docs to let them do their own thing :P
<5> Ritalin: You know, MASH is gospel. It's all true. ;)
<1> wlfshmn: but if you have a M.D. and want to be in the army you get a direct comission
<6> wlfshmn: yeah, but military intelligence does it with a rusty spoon ;)
<5> RelDrgn: Perhaps. I'm not signing up ;)
<0> Ritalin: You get to pick your duty station?
<4> wlf, Rel
<5> nan.
<1> falchion: i get to name my 10 top preferences, but i dont get to "pick" anything, be it branch or station
<6> afternoonish, Nanuq
<0> Ritalin: Get overseas if you can request it. Feel free to walk out if they won't gtive you what you want. Period. And i'm not kidding.
<1> i think i picked engineering, ord., and quatermaster
<0> Ritalin: If they won't let you pick it, walk.
<5> Falchion: You'll get overseas soon enough ;)
<1> my top 4 picks were overseas
<0> wlfshmn: No, overseas as in hawaii, germany, etc :P
<0> Ritalin: Those picks don't mean ****.
<5> Falchion: I know, I'm just pullign your leg ;)
<0> If it doesn't say you're getting xxx in your contract, you ain'ty getting it :P
<1> falchion: right. like i said because i pick it means nothing
<7> wlfshmn: thats not his leg.
<0> Ritalin: They'll tell you they can't give you it in yoru contract, but that's a lie.
<2> falchion: I prefer the view we have here and the one the marines adopted... we don't die, we just regroup in hell
<5> D-side: if it isn't, it's probably broken, because it bends like one under preasure
<1> falchion: well, i don't know how they'll give it to me in the contract when it's not decided what branch you'll be until at least the 2nd week of OCS
<8> woohoo, dialed in to work at 33.6
<0> evilelf: I prefer the army view: Kill them all. If god wants to sort them out, let him. I can't be bothered sicne there's beer here
<7> wlfshmn: i have nothing to say to that.
<1> and your station is going to be determined i would think by your branch
<5> D-side: ;)
<2> falchion: HAHAHAHAHA!
<0> Ritalin: I'm not tlaiking MOS, I'm talking duty station.
<2> falchion: ****ing right
<1> wtf is a duty station
<8> i gotta ****
<8> be back in a minute
<5> MOS beeing where you train?
<0> Ritalin: Where you'll be. For example, if you can get Germany or Italy, you're all set
<9> jgaddis: thanks ever so much for sharing that
<1> wlfshmn: MOS is your job
<0> MOS is your job.
<5> ok
<0> For example, I was 11-H (heavy Anti-Armor infantry) and then 11-b (normal infantry grunt).
<1> falchion: germany and italy were 2 of my top 4. but if that post doesn't have whatever my branch is, chances are i wouldn't be stationed there (to my knowledge)
<0> Fun fact: i was one of th3e last 11-H's. That MOS doesn't exist anymore
<10> hello
<0> Ritalin: The chances of you getting ANYTHING on that list are "slim as ****" to "none".
<0> if it doesnt' say "you will go blah blah blah" then you own't :P
<1> falchion: i expect that no matter what i put, i go to Iraq. so, what's your point?
<1> i've read that even if it is in your contract doesn't mean it's a gurantee
<5> Ritalin: Will you do uni before or after your term?
<1> wlfshmn: before, since i already hold a degree
<7> i can't contemplate the mindset of someone who joins the service today.
<0> Ritalin: Wrong. if it is in the contract, you get it. If its not, you won't.
<1> d-side: http://www.bluenotblue.com/ocs.doc
<5> Ritalin: Well then, with a bit of luck, Iraq will be all over and you've moved on to Iran or whomever is next ;)
<10> I'm thinking about investing my hard earned cash in some linux magazine ,what is the one to reccomend?
<11> Oi...had to meet with some Frenchy
<7> Calle: Linux Journal.
<7> Calle: or nothing.
<10> oh ok
<10> thanks
<10> I will look for it
<11> His approach to ligand identification was so ****ed up...it was ridiculous
<1> falchion: regardless of what i get the only thing i know how to do is the best job i can. i'm open to where i am and what i'm doing. of course i'd rather be doing some things than others
<0> Ritalin:My point is, even if you DO go to iraq, you won't always be there. Different areas have different pay due to cost of living. Look, I already been there and done that. If you don't weant my advice, no worries :)
<0> Ritalin: You've got the wrong mindset.
<0> Ritalin: You SHOULD care where you go. There are a lot of places that are pure hell to be, and I dont' mean iraq.
<1> i understand what you are saying but i think it's different for officers/enlisted
<5> anyway, I'm off. laters.
<1> in the sense of getting something in your contract
<12> You might be in iraq for the rest of your life.
<0> Ritalin: Yes, it IS different. But A> I was supposed to go in as an officer but decided against it B> There are soe things that are exactly the same. If it isn't specifically stated in the contract, you have no choicer what so ever. And that means you won't get it, 99% of the time.
<7> which might be about, oh, 4 mos.
<7> TenBaseT: sorry to steal the punchline.
<0> Ritalin: It's all good. Even if you don't get sc rewed due to your contract, you will get screwed by the army at some point, so its something to look forward to.
<1> well i don't know who to talk to. recruiter of course probably doesn't know (i've had to help him with some stuff) or if he does he may tell some lies hre and there so i get in on this month so his numbers are better. people at MEPS haven't been of any help when i was down there either
<0> Ritalin: There are lots of groups online that will help you out.
<8> $recruiter will straight up lie to your face.
<1> isn't it called the big green screw ?
<1> oh yeah, i'm actually a memeber of a forum, let me go read up on this
<0> Ritalin: heh
<8> I caught one lying right to my face a few years ago... not like I was going to go, anyways.
<12> I've heard of people saying "if you write it into your contract you can get anything" but I've never actually met a single person who got anything like that.
<7> jgaddis: no ****.
<0> Ritalin: ****, there are even IRC rooms. When I enlisted, one of the regulars inthe military roomI chatted in turned out to be a Drill Sgt in my company :) heh
<0> TenBaseT: I did. My unit, my MOS, everything. :P
<8> woohoo, yeah for down wan links
<7> jgaddis: what, at work?
<8> nothing like 50 million people emailing you at once to ask "is the server that does the internet down?"
<0> Of course I got inmjured the first time and then all bets were off. Since I couldnt' be airborne anymore, I ended up at 10th mountain. heh
<13> jgaddis: Im glad to see more people than me are having fun today :P
<8> D-side: yeah
<8> apparently our redundant paths aren't
<13> lol
<7> oof. what are they?
<8> D-side: I got 90 Mb/s, and not a single bit going in or out at the moment.
<0> Ritalin: Well, best of luck, any which way. You're volunteering, which puts you head and shoulders above most of your nation, plus you're doing it in time of war. Shame you're gonna be an officer ;)
<8> Dialed in on a ****in' 33.6 too
<7> jgaddis: and.. who's throat are you choking right now?
<8> D-side: some ****wad at time warner
<1> falchion: well the way i see it war is part of the job description. if i've made the choice to volunteer it shouldn't matter if it's war or peace time
<7> jgaddis: they give you a reason yet?
<8> nope
<7> jgaddis: you're within your rights to scream like a maniac and escalate to hell and back.
<8> he's "testing some things" right now
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