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<0> I'm still upset about losing ten years of HTTPD logfiles due to disk failure
<1> "RIM said this past Friday that the US Patent and Trademark Office had now issued a Final Office Action notice stating that the last of three patents at the heart of the dispute between NTP and RIM had been "rejected" by the organisation's re-examiners.
<1> "
<1> Liandrin: oh no!
<2> this Dell gx520 is resisting debian to be instlled on it
<0> I had the logs of every hit my box ever got
<1> we had GX270's when I was in the government... nice machines.
<3> no idea
<3> blah. I'm in one of those "programming breaks" ... need a couple days off of the code to get back in the mood
<1> Ed: heheh.
<1> Ed: did you ever end up getting 1.0 out the door?
<2> Tamahome: the gx270's still had PATA drives. the Gx520's now have SATA drives - no joy there
<4> I'm not in the mood to **** with that
<3> no. I could release something that worked ...98% of the way
<3> but i'm not going to release 1.0 until all my options work and the gui reflects it.
<3> that is, all of the options shade and unshade when they're supposed to, become active and deactive when they're supposed to.



<1> WyldOne: I guess the deb kernel is missing SATA support?
<5> safemode: so we can expect a release in the next 2 years at the earliest? :)
<2> Tamahome: big time
<3> libolt: **** you :) I only started the damn thing a couple weeks ago
<1> LOL!
<3> the biggest stumbling block is the sheer amount of widget juggling ...so many ****ing widgets
<5> safemode: right and now you'll spend the next couple of years perfecting that 2% :)
<3> it'd be nice if gtk used an xml descriptor like they use for dropdown menus-bars
<3> libolt: actually i'll get the other things back up when i'm back in the mood, i have it all written on paper already. I'll be spending the next year or so getting it from that point to full ripping/encoding suite
<5> it's too bad gtk still has that fugly file dialogue box
<3> they have a new one
<3> filechooser
<5> safemode: since the one in 2.4 or whatever that was all the hype? that's the one I'm referring to
<3> 2.8 here
<3> they have a new one
<3> filechooser is quite a bit nicer
<2> 2.8 kernel?
<3> 2.8 gtk version
<1> Pooptk, yeah
<5> I'm referring to whatever is currently in use that firefox nwo uses which makes things such a pain
<5> s/nwo/now/
<3> firefox/mozilla uses the old style
<3> let me think of something that uses the new one
<6> does a SSL certificate exist on the computer in the form of a file? if so, where shoudl it be put so that apache recocognizes it?
<3> hrm. i guess the one that says "filesystem" on the left is the new one..and the thing i'm thinking of just had additional default shortcuts
<7> Muir yes, and you can specify where in the httpd.conf
<6> awesome you are a hindred times more useful and to the point than all of the apache documentatino combined
<1> Muir: you can put it anywhere, but you probably want it somewhere where only root and the webserver user can access it
<6> these epopel taht write docs freaking ****
<4> DaveHowe: If'n I recollect correctly... I's does believe that is in that there new fangled thing called docu-men-tation
<4> Muir: for what Apache SSL?
<7> schitzo: sorry, was concentrating on runescape and was inadvertently helpful :)
<4> DaveHowe: heh
<5> safemode: yeah that's the one, I don't like it at all compared to the kde file dialog, personal opinion yeah but oh well
<3> kde is a desktop environment
<3> you should be comparing to gnome's file dialog box
<3> what's qt's file dialog box look like...that's the question
<5> is gnome's file dialog box any different?
<3> yea
<8> why can't i change the owner of a hard-link which i currently own?
<3> gnome builds on top of gtk's widgets.. i dont think they use barely any straight up
<0> encryptor, only root can chown links
<5> safemode: hrm the quick google image search shows pretty much the same dialog as gtk+
<8> Liandrin, aha, thank you
<9> anyone here?
<5> nope
<9> seems so :/
<5> wazp: try /whois anyone next time
<2> BWAHAHAHAHA - the current daily build of debian for (beta1 - gui) installer will not wirk with a http proxy setting
<9> well, i have a bit of a problem, would be nice if someone could point me in the right direction ;)
<3> hrm. me needs to re-compile the kernel with the new libata patches and see if cd writing fixates work now
<2> because It now seems to be installing what it should have from the dang netinst CD's
<4> HAHAHA -> MadGoat FTP server V2.5-3 ready.
<4> it's OldMonk's FTP server
<3> debian unstable netinst images for amd64 had sata drivers by default. in fact, it supported just about everything on my computer including audio from the start. pretty spiffy
<9> I just installed slackware on a comp (havent been using linux in years now) and got ftp, ssh etc working, but when i mount my 2nd drive in a folder i created with root. then I cant access it, trying with chown, and chgrp, but cant really get access to it. anyone have any idea of where i can find help on the net?
<3> especially considering it's all nvidia ****
<2> MCE? that like 'vcr ' proggie?



<10> wazp: depends on the filesystem. you probably need "man mount"
<5> schitzo: you should ask him next time when he and his goat are planning to get hitched
<1> WyldOne: yeah... Windows XP MCE
<5> safemode: sata cd burner?
<2> safemode: unfortunatly it does not work for Dell gx520's
<9> Lion-O hmm i can manually mount it, and i can add it in fstab. but it seems to be problems with the user rights on the folder
<9> dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 Dec 7 15:40 ftp
<10> wazp: 'man mount', use stuff like uid and such to set the effective uid/gid and such.
<9> hmm. seems i didnt install man :p
<10> wazp: then do that first.
<9> i thought it was all on the net .P
<10> or try the lackware website for an online version.
<1> WyldOne: I just set it up last week and I love it.
<3> libata supports pata and sata
<2> wazp: and man chmod,chown
<3> and my cd burner is pata
<10> wazp: sure; www.tldp.org also has that stuff online.
<3> Dude, you ****ed up and got a Dell
<9> thanks Lion-O i will see what i can do :)
<3> I dont use scsi or ide drivers at all. It's all libata
<1> Dude, you got an error!
<2> safemode: heh, not my choice - $werk decided on it - ARRGGHH
<2> has anyone tried a SATA cd/dvd burner? does it work?
<5> safemode: ah sounds like fairly uncharted territory then, my corporate box has a nvidia chipset and I use libata for the sata drives and the regular ide stuff for the burner
<2> hm this is gonna take a while. might as well go $h0m3 and graba brew or something
<3> libolt: 2.6.16 and 2.6.17 you'll get to know libata for everything :)
<2> hm don't think I've evr had a problem scribling cd/dvd
<5> safemode: ah well I'll probably leave it the way it is, it works now
<3> well libata will replace all that eventually anyway
<9> hmm is there problems when u try to hook up winxp disks with getting permissions to users? and if so, is there anyway around it?
<5> though I should put a dvd burner in there instead of the memorex cd writer I've got now.. allow me to import my music collection to work better
<5> well if/when libata does replace everything I'll move to that unless I get an itch, but I'd rather keep that system in as consistent of a state as possible :)
<3> it's definitely a when.. and the when will be far off, but only in the sense that ide will remain in the kernel, but unmaintained like OSS is
<2> like parallel/serial ports and PS/2 bus
<8> does someone know what is this notation for: (( )) <-- in shell scripts
<8> ?
<2> encryptor: man bash
<11> encryptor: mathematical expressions, check out the bash manpage
<2> encryptor: also info bash
<10> depending on the shell which is being used, it doesn't have to be bash :P
<12> Daakman: dont look at me.. i'm hideous
<12> howdy ****er.
<13> Hey bastard.
<12> word.
<13> Man, this being single **** ****s. I forgot what it was like to have to clean up after myself. =)
<13> Gonna have to get another woman in here... and quick.
<14> jgaddis: cheaper if you hire one
<2> s/hire/rent/
<8> thanx
<13> whitecap: Heh, I'm thinking about it, actually.
<11> D-side: indeed, you are :)
<12> Daakman: |(
<15> anyone help me troubleshoot local mail? im using gentoo
<11> That is certainly an interesting article in /topic
<10> jra: try asking an actual question
<15> Can someone help me setup my local mail on my gentoo machine?
<10> jra: RTFM
<15> did that
<12> gentoo is for people who know what they're doing.
<2> Ain't that close to OM's place? (re: /topic)
<16> Hrm.. "-!- No topic set for #linux"
<11> WyldOne: Truthfully, no. It's not, but it might've been OldMonk with the goat
<13> Formal offer should be extended tomorrow. =)
<11> Cool
<11> for what position?
<13> Information Security Engineer.
<12> jgaddis: it damn well better be.


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