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<0> command erase psql in the shell?
<1> PolarWolf: oh trust me.. I'd rather have debian on here.. or actually solaris x86
<2> TenBaseT: it's not my fault if your infrastructure isn't up to the job
<3> smsie: that's geographic planning.. they are the people that plan how a town is structured
<4> most suburbs dont want public transportation
<2> which is cultural
<2> again, it's NOT a problem of geography
<3> i dont see the need to defend your belief of, all americans are just lazy..
<2> yes, you have a big country. That's NOT suficeint reason to have to drive everywhere
<5> Most people do their travel in a limited radius anyway.
<3> it IS a problem, and if you dont live here, you don't really know **** about it
<4> smsie: having a big country means the economics are all skewed. most palces just dont have the density of population to make public transportation viable.
<6> heh funny thing is here in Phoenix, they're spending a ****load of money to install a light rail system in downtown, which is ****ing up all the streets
<7> yeah, I think smsie is speaking without any understanding
<7> though, there is *one* m*** transit system I consider a success
<2> TenBaseT: no, your economic model skews it. You try to make money from infrastructure. That's the wrong way around. Infrastructure is what you spend money *on*
<7> DC's metro system kicks ***.
<7> in DC, you really could live and work without using your car most of the month.
<4> smsie: if you believe that the state should be in that sort of business. which most americans dont.
<2> which is why the UK used to have a great rail infrastructure. Then they screwed up and priuvatised it...and now it is falling to pieces
<3> cities, surrounded by suburbs that sprawl out for HUNDREDS of miles.. those people in the suburbs all drive vehicles to get to the stores, schools, and offices
<4> siglite: chicago's is good too.
<8> i think i figured out what it was that was causing my machine to be so laggy, and have explorer.exe using 300+mb of ram
<2> TenBaseT: yes, I absolutely DO believe that the state should be.
<4> smsie: thats your own cultural problem then
<2> TenBaseT: it's basic infrastructure. As far as I am concerned it is the job of the state to build and administer basic infrastructure
<8> windows wireless configuration utility...killed that, rebooted, and damned thing has been running great for almost 24 hours now
<2> TenBaseT: granted
<5> Personally, I'd still drive even if there was door to door public transport available. Why? Because I like the freedom, and I like to drive. Simple as that, and there's nothing wrong with it.
<2> TenBaseT: but then I have decent stores in walking distance from here. And I can get them to deliver my order :)
<3> PolarWolf: agreed.. now if we can just work on that fuel thing..
<5> And that's probably the case for most of the people "needing" a car too
<5> Comet-: It's not a problem. Just expensive.
<2> and I don't own or need a car
<5> Comet-: And you better get used to these and higher prices, it's for lasting
<5> The good news is that most of the planet is already used to them
<3> PolarWolf: i dont care about gas, i care about what's coming after gas
<3> why pay more, when i could use something cheaper
<5> Comet-: More gas. There's plenty of organic fuel around to keep us driving for a while.
<4> you live in a compressed area where the state wouldnt have to spend a few billion dollars to operate a money-losing public infrastructure service
<5> Comet-: It's not as easy to get as pumping it up from the ground, ready to use though
<3> PolarWolf: i saw a solarpowered hydrogen generator the other day.. that'd be pretty sweet
<5> Comet-: Lessee...oil sands, coal layers, ethanol, bio fuels (bad idea), etc
<5> Yeah, and hydrogen too
<2> it will all be fine when we can run cars on dihydrogen monoxied
<5> smsie: Yeah! :)
<2> s/ied/ide/
<3> i think there's more of a scheme to it than we think.. we could of had cars run on hemp oil back in the 30's
<5> smsie: The biggest problem with that is, well, obtaining pure enough water. There's a shortage already :)
<2> we just need a perpetual motion machine
<2> shouldn't be hard
<2> why haven't you invented one yet?
<9> smsie: We have fuel cell buses in London
<2> rhowe: aye. London again :)
<2> this really is a great city
<2> pity it's such a ****hole
<5> Volvo has a car which drives on like 8 kinds of fuel
<9> smsie: heh yeah :)
<5> Yeah, including gas :)
<10> rhowe: hydrogen fuel cells?
<9> PolarWolf: Farts? :)
<9> bhab: I ***ume so. They pump out steam
<11> hi, i have a fc5 system. i just set the fs to have one partition. now i want to limit the size of /var to a given amount, example 100MB. how can i do it without having to redo the partition?
<5> Diesel engines run on anything which seems remotely fluid and has something to burn
<10> rhowe: that's hot as hell. I wish they would start doing that all over the place :)
<9> bhab: We don't have that many though :P
<2> darkm00n: no
<11> smsie: Are you saying no just to be negative?
<2> darkm00n: no
<11> smsie: Are you saying no just to be negative?
<5> rhowe: Methanol, sure :)
<5> Err, methane.
<9> PolarWolf: If I farted methanol, I'd be worried :P
<7> and blind
<5> rhowe: No, you could make a fortune! :)
<12> poof
<12> rhowe: that would rock
<9> bhab: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citaro#Hydrogen_Fuel_Cell_Bus_.28O530BZ.29
<2> ataX: tmpfile()
<13> ataX!!!!!!!!!!
<14> cheeksy!
<13> exotic :o)))
<9> ataX: fopen("/tmp/sekrit")!
<14> cheeksy: LTNS
<14> rhowe: hah
<13> Eric :o)
<14> FILE *sekrit
<12> re Russ
<13> ataX: i know!
<9> heya Erix
<9> s/x/c/
<2> ataX: define "secure"
<12> gawd, the local post office has gone from bad to worse
<12> there's this teenage biatch there that doesn't want a goddamn thing to do with you
<12> doesn't trust the enduser to figure out the required postage, always has to weigh and size it even though that's already been done
<14> smsie: use a random file name for each temporary file, check the permissions, etc.
<12> so now I just buy stamps and drop 'em in the box outside
<5> ataX: There should be a lot written about that
<2> ataX: tmpfile() creates files with random unique names. You can just set the permissions then
<14> smsie: cool.
<14> where is tmpfile defined?
<12> stdio.h
<14> ok.
<15> the manpage should have the #include to use for it ;)
<14> hey, i'm a C newbie ;)
<2> ataX: you'll need types.h and stat.h for chmod() as well
<12> ataX: you know how manpages work?
<14> man $STUFF
<12> right. works for C too ;)
<2> man 3 tmpfile; man 2 chmod
<12> smsie: well you don't need the section
<2> Nanuq: you do for chmod
<12> smsie: won't it default to 2?
<12> smsie: or is it 1? or 8?
<2> well, unless you have a weird system that looks in section 2 before section 1
<12> smsie: okay okay
<2> Nanuq: it's settable
<12> mine's in 1 ;)
<13> ataX: i missed oh SO SO much :o/
<2> ssta@yaffle:~$ grep ^SECTION /etc/manpath.config
<2> SECTION 1 n l 8 3 2 3posix 3pm 3perl 5 4 9 6 7
<13> missed YOU* hmmm.
<12> smsie: cool
<2> Nanuq: nono, you want chmod(2), NOT chmod(1)
<12> smsie: I know :P
<2> Nanuq: chmod(1) describes the command. chmod(2) describes the C function :)
<12> smsie: Duh, mate.
<12> smsie: my cl***ic example is crontab(1) and crontab(5)
<2> indeed
<12> smsie: and Debian always trips me up when I run crontab -e as root
<12> smsie: then I remember it's /etc/crontab :P
<2> Nanuq: well, root can have its own crontab as well IIRC
<12> smsie: well yeah
<2> irritates the hell out of me on solaris
<2> for some reason "sudo crontab -e" always uses ex as the editor
<2> which is really awkward :)
<10> just export EDITOR=vi to your shell
<2> bhab: nah, you have to put it inside the sudo call
<2> sudo EDITOR=vi crontab -e
<5> Solaris' userland annoys me to no end
<2> yeah, and me
<12> smsie: get out a hex editor, change the binary ;)
<2> I usually replace most of it with GNU userland if I can
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