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<0> smsie: but it doesnt cure general stupidity in any way. thats a shame
<1> Jostein: Yeah, but *that* they don't teach or certify
<2> Jostein: but it *doesn't* mean that. ALL being certified means is that you ahve a piece of paper, nothing more
<0> smsie: you can say the same for any uni in the world
<3> I do not even know if my entertainment center is big enough to hold a 37" TV
<2> Jostein: yes, I do
<0> smsie: doesnt mean a engineering degree is worthless
<3> hell, I do not even know if my CAR is big enough to hold a 37" TV
<4> Right. I'm off. See y'all later.
<2> Jostein: DOING an engineering degree isn't worthless. HAVING one is
<1> Having MS certs only shows you managed to lower yourself into understanding the world according to microsoft
<0> smsie: well.. thats the problem wqith papers, ey? can only prove this much.
<0> smsie: unless you come up with something better, I'll at least give the papers -some- attention :P
<5> PolarWolf: on the other hand - I would probably have had a job a year ago if I had had MS paper...
<2> Jostein: no, papers prove *nothing*. Show Me[tm]
<1> VMware will be fun though
<1> One more piece of paper on my resume
<0> smsie: ofcourse, what any smart person will do is look at prior jobs
<2> Jostein: if I was interviewing? I'd test. "THere's a problem, I want an applet with a solution. You have 4 hours. Then we break for lunch and I'll talk to you about your solutions
<0> smsie: yeah. thats whats the interviews is for
<0> smsie: but you need a way to determine WHO to call in for a interview
<2> Jostein: experience mainly. a year of experience is worth ten certs
<6> Damn, I have a lot of certs then.
<2> especially Mxxx certs
<0> smsie: as I said. look at prior jobs and what not. But I'd -some- attention to the papers nonetheless. It should be a simple matter to eliminate idiots at the interview
<2> maybe one of these days, if I find myself with a spare afternoon to read up on it, I'll get me an MCSE, just so I can wipe my arse with it
<0> heh
<6> Then you can frame your ****-smeared MCSE in your office.
<7> smsie++;
<0> smsie: ofcourse if you have certs and no experience, alarm bells should be ringing and you should prepare your shotgun :P
<2> synapsis: I know several people with framed MCSE and MCP certs. They point proudly to them. I try very hard (well, okay, not THAT hard) to avoid laughing until they've turned their backs
<2> anyone who thinks the cert they own means anything is automatically suspect IMO
<2> you think you're good? Fine, Show Me[tm]
<6> smsie: Our sysad has an MCSE, first words out of my mouth were, "Was it free?"
<2> synapsis: excellent! :)
<5> synapsis: "I hope you enjoyed the cornflakes at least"
<8> hey
<6> Yeah. Ever since then he's refused to talk about his education.
<0> heh
<6> Then he asks me what my education was. hah
<8> can i make a download limitation to a certain number of kbps only for downloads (limitation must not apply to web surfing)?
<6> Six years of high school, but I built the network he admins now. ;)
<8> and how can i do that?
<0> synapsis: 25 years of computing? :P
<7> optocus: http://lartc.org
<2> "I'm a linux expert"; "okay, there's a linux system. You have 30 minutes to look at it and 30 minutes to write me a thousand words on what you find interesting about it"; "Can I have the root p***word?"; "You're not a linux expert..."
<8> Cynic thanks
<6> Yeah, 25 years this June actually.
<9> optocus: and setup a proxy like squid for web access.
<0> synapsis: I usually find people who only have degrees, and evidently no prior interest for computers to be generally useless anyway
<7> optocus: i find htb + sfq to be the best combination. what that means exactly will become apparent when you read the HOWTOs on that site.
<0> synapsis: in cases like that, whocares if they have a degree? they're still lagging 20 years behind
<6> I have prior interest, just no current interest. ;)
<0> heh
<2> I'm still interested, luckily
<2> **** knows what I'll do when it starts to bore me
<6> I still do computers to pay the mortgage. I've moved onto metalworking/building cars.
<0> management?
<2> become a porn actor maybe...
<0> *grin*
<2> Jostein: **** that.
<2> synapsis: now that sounds like fun
<2> I wouldn't mind cabinet building
<2> any kind of fine carpentry really
<6> In 25 years when I get sick of metalworking, I'll move onto carpentry.
<6> So when I'm 55, I'll be able to furnish my own house.
<4> lol.
<8> what does squid?
<6> 'cause it's empty as hell right now. ;)
<5> optocus: well does squid, yes
<10> synapsis: that nice comfy little cardboard box with a scenic view of the intersection? *duck*
<6> heh. I have a house in the 'burbs, just no furniture.
<6> I spent my furniture money on an engine. d'oh!
<8> the thing is that there's this admin of the LAN i'm on. he said he can't limit only download because download occurs on port 80 and HTTP is on port 80 too so if he limits download he liits web...
<10> synapsis: heh my sister's moving from washington state to tucson in a couple of months, her husband's in the airforce and that's where he got relocated to
<6> I work at a shop on the weekends building cars and learning the old school 20's and 30's techniques for metalworking.
<6> libolt: She hot?
<11> synapsis: but was it a nice engine?
<5> optocus: and the cluelessness of your network admin bothers us how?
<6> whyzzyrd: 392 Hemi from 1958.
<6> So yes.
<12> optocus, neither you nor your admin have the faintest clue what you're talking about.
<5> Ka-bar: that's a given. I am just wondering why he is inflicting the news of this on us...
<11> synapsis: and you bought a hemi for what?
<12> DaveHowe, further cluelessness... he ***umes that we give a ****
<6> My 1931 Chevy 3-window hot rod.
<13> hi there, anybody here that can suggest me a linux ftp client (terminal) that supports ssl? :)
<12> NumeroUno, ask google
<13> I've already done so ;)
<13> can't seem to find any
<12> well, do it again, and this time, use search words that make sense
<13> I thought lftp did, but appearantly it didn't
<13> no need to be rude Ka-bar
<8> Ka-bar you are right. i just want to know if it can be done
<2> DaveHowe: you could easily be good enough at any of them...it's not actually hard, just a capacity to take pains
<5> numerouno - how come I found a review at http://linuxreviews.org/software/ftp-clients/ as my first hit?
<12> optocus, yes, you can limit bandwidth in one direction without limiting it in the other.
<8> so i can go and hit im in the head with a hammer for keeping me at 120kbps whith the excuse that 3 guys download all day & night long
<13> dave: already been there
<11> DaveHowe: because you know how to drive google
<2> nyone can learn to drive google
<6> Because your Google-Fu is strong.
<13> dave: no terminal ssl client on that page
<2> it's not hard, just needs practice
<5> NumeroUno: then why don't you take any of the several referenced products from there instead of bothering us?
<8> Ka-bar i was not talking about direction. download must be limited (any file that's not from a webpage)
<13> because none of those products were terminal clients, only gui
<13> that is, the ones that had ssl
<8> (torrents, ZIP, etc. but not the webpages and theyr components - images, flash, etc.)
<12> NumeroUno, how about sftp... that does ftp over an ssh tunnel.
<5> *sigh* you mean console
<13> I'm sorry guys, I thought I'd pop in here and ask for some friendly help since google didn't help me much, but I see this isn't the right place for that
<7> aww, you hurt his feelings!
<7> you naughty little bofhs
<14> Jostein: http://www.yourblog.in
<14> :)
<14> just another one of my odd ideas
<14> :)
<15> Jostein: Look into the trigger.pl script (google "irssi trigger"). It rocks.
<0> And I was about to say "Im sure irssi will let me do that" :P
<15> Jostein: I used it to replace irssi's hide_colors, so that colors from ops or friends show.
<0> ThomasM: neato
<15> Jostein: The only thing I'd really like to see added to trigger.pl is anti-masks and anti-matches. Currently almost all the filters are inclusive.
<0> ThomasM: hmm... Ill check it out anyway
<16> hello i need help
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