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<0> I don't need a /29 at home, but hey, I've got one
<1> cool!
<2> a /29 AT HOME?!?
<1> gives you eight IPs, doesn't it?
<1> oh, six, plus network and b'cast
<2> that'd be neat :P
<2> Viking667: yup
<0> My name is on the NET allocation
<0> I must behave now
<3> Jostein_: You don't have a /29 at home?
<2> w00t
<1> I'm hoping for a static IP when I *do* eventually shift over to DSL...
<2> rhowe: one very unstatic IP thank you
<2> it's crap, I know



<3> Jostein_: They've given us a /24 at work :P
<2> rhowe: you guys need that? :P
<3> Jostein_: Not at all!
<0> lol
<2> rhowe: care to hand me a few of those /24 bits then? :P
<3> Jostein_: Hmm.. no :)
<0> You only get 8 bits out of a /24
<2> atompngn: "only"
<2> compare that to a single IP, unstatic
<2> thats like complaining about only haveing 10mbps pipe out, since there are standard NICs for 1gbit
<2> or something
<0> I'll take "or something" for $200, Alex.
<2> heh
<2> why the alex, anyway?
<0> uh, Jeopardy
<2> right. we dont have "alex" as a host in .no :P
<2> in fact, they stopped airing jeopardy long time ago
<4> we can send him over if you want
<2> no need
<5> interestinh topic :)
<6> hmm, if this keeps up I might even consider replacing my current lilo setup with grub
<2> Lion-O: heresy!
<1> bah. You don't code your own bootloader in HEX with toggleswitches any more?
<7> i just leave whatever the install uses, bot work fine for my needs
<1> mmmm. I have to .... erm, tinker with mine.
<1> after all, one bootloader (OpenBSD) doesn't REALLY like being run from Secondary Master drive...
<7> use grub to fool it
<1> ... whereas FreeBSD's bootloader is fine, so's Solaris' bootloader (grub, slow as)
<1> I already do that with lilo.
<6> Jostein_: hmm ;)
<6> Jostein_: so far I'm using Lilo for the main setup and grub for both Solaris/x86 and now Ubuntu, and well.. "it works".
<2> Lion-O: heh. its just a personal preference based on lazyness.
<6> Jostein_: nah
<2> Lion-O: I know how to fickle with lilo. with grub I have no idea
<2> I was talking about me here :P
<6> Jostein_: aah, ok. well, grub makes you even lazier ;)
<1> Lion-O: is your Solaris GRUB particularly slow?
<6> Viking667: I hardly use it ;)
<1> When I do, it takes jolly AGES to get to the kernel (two minutes or so)
<6> Viking667: so far I only used it to boot sol/x86 every now and then, and started it from, well, lilo ;)
<1> that's the same way I've started mine.
<1> lilo (hda), -- (2 seconds) --> Sol10 Grub (hdc2) -- (2 minutes) --> kernel
<6> eeew
<1> That's what *I* thought.
<8> whats going on here?
<6> right.. dvd playback is the same on Debian. this is freakin' cool!
<1> On top of THAT, I've STILL got that no serial ports thing. ANd ACPI errors in dmesg.
<8> Lion-O: still playing with ubuntu?
<6> D-side: flipping about from Debian to Ubuntu to check on certain features and making a battleplan. If this keeps going the way it does now I'm SERIOUSLY considering a switch.
<8> Viking667: acpi errors are pretty common with old hardware. p*** noapic to the kernel
<6> alas; reboot
<8> Lion-O: good luck. :)
<2> there's an u-bun-dance of ubuntu users here, D-side
<1> D-side: err, talking Solaris here, not Linux.
<8> Jostein_: oh i do want to slap you right in the face for that
<8> Viking667: OH.
<8> Viking667: well hell thats your own fault for using that nonsense :D



<2> D-side: that was the plan. good it worked :P
<1> and I can't seem to find a list of bootswitches that Solaris uses.
<1> It's actually okay, other things aside.
<2> Viking667: Im sure its as easy to find as boot-right-to-virtual-console :P
<1> ... what? Never seen that.
<2> nope
<2> I just fooled around with solaris a few times. really missed that thing
<2> ctrl-alt f1 was no good either
<1> oookay. What's "boot-right-to-virtual-console"
<1> oh. The way I got around that was to log in as root as SOON as I saw the login: prompt
<1> luckily (huh?) my machine was slow enough to let me do that.
<2> lol
<2> Viking667: it matches your dial-up!
<8> that was harsh
<1> the irony is: I got 5 CDs from someone, to install 3/05 from. That worked fine, albeit slow. Saw the serial ports...
<2> D-side: I didnt know we were nice to each other in here
<2> must have missed it
<1> So, I decided to purchase the 8-dvd set of 1/06. That works, except for not seeing serial ports, and ACPI errors in dmesg I don't know how to turn off.
<2> Viking667: ****s
<8> Jostein_: we're not, we're bags of ****. that was altogether uncalled for though. :)
<1> Jostein_: <sarcasm> Well, fsck you too!!!</sarcasm>
<6> D-side: so far I'm really close to saying "A more up-to-date Debian environment which just works" :)
<2> D-side: nice. Ive been evil twice this week. must be a new record
<1> D-side: hey, I'm a big boy now. It's not like I haven't ever been online before...
<8> Lion-O: thats what i concluded.
<8> Lion-O: thtas also why i use it. :)
<6> D-side: according to some relatives I've always been a little behind with certain discoveries ;-)
<2> D-side: sushi would be dead boring if it werent for the sauce, wasabi ang ginger
<6> still, this is an excellent oppertunity to get rid of some overhead and get my stuff "working".
<2> but because of those 3 things, I really like it
<8> Jostein_: well thats the way its meant to be eaten, so good.
<9> http://www.netjeff.com/humor/item.cgi?file=SquareBallsJoke
<1> hmm. Okay. I don't think I'll be p***ing THAT on any time soon.
<6> aaah, here we go
<8> what did you hit?
<10> some idiot rear-ended me
<8> oh ****.
<10> well, if I hold the steering wheel straight, it tracks to the left when the car moves forward...it's a gradual movement
<1> dogbert2: blech. That'll cost.
<10> no...***uming nothing is bent (which is probably isn't) a full alignment costs $100
<1> err, that's wheel alignment, not *ch***is* alignment...
<10> Viking...yeah...the guy hit me at about 8-12 MPH
<10> but his truck is much larger than my car :)
<1> yeah.
<4> heh I saw something on thirdgen.org where a guy ****ed up the frame on his firebird by jumping a curb and managing to pop the tires somehow
<1> higher inertial impact
<10> doesn't matter, i'm not paying for this **** :)
<2> hehe
<1> heh heh heh...
<10> I figure it will probably cost their insurance company probably < $500 to align and fix trunk latch ***y...(that's a cheap claim)...not gonna get the /dev/bumper worked on since the car is 10.5 years old
<6> D-side: well, its a shame but it seems as if my idea to switch maybe a bad one. Klondike on Ubuntu doesn't end up for me ;)
<6> </lame_remark>
<1> "klondike"? Isn't that the Solitaire game?
<6> Viking667: aye
<1> hell! Go install flightgear and stop whining!
<10> I can take satisfaction that the guy who hit me got $1000 bucks worth of citations last night :)
<6> but, but, but...
<6> flightgear eh
<4> Lion-O: you WILL play TUXRACER and you WILL LIKE IT! :P
<6> madsoft
<6> whoops ;)
<6> time to change my p***word now 8) fortunatly I only use that one locally
<4> I like flightgear personally, don't use it a whole lot but been following the project since '98, though it's best to use the CVS version as they don't put out a whole lot of releases though development is rather active
<10> never knew driving without a valid license was such an expensive ticket - $600
<6> actually, I have played sopwith a /lot/ ;)
<1> I'm still getting my head around the whole fgs interface.
<4> I remember back when the only scenery texture they had was desert and the little cessna 172 you flew would bounce and flip like mad if you 'hit' the ground
<1> heh.


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