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<0> hrm can I run a 686 kernel on my existing k7? I am now running the 386 kernel and it is damned snappy
<1> bsims: but indeed, as Gathond says, ther eis likely very little differance, and a non-k7 kernel has a point if you think you might have to boot the hardxdrive on a diffrent machine for some reason
<2> the only real problem is running a kernel for a later model on an earlier CPU
<1> bsims: there is only some c7 kernerls I think that are absoutley incompatible with "better" cpus.. all the m***-market stuff is backwardscompatible in terms of programming
<0> yeah like when I actually get this hardware installed. but Just was wondering about using the 686-smp on the Ath64X2s
<2> iirc a pentium cant boot a 686 kernel and so forth
<1> Gathond: that is correct, I've run into that on some rare occations. therefor I tend to run a less epcific kernl on servers (although I go 686, since I don't have any worse hardware anywhere to potentially run on)
<3> I figured I'd sit on IRC while I still decide which distro to switch to from FC5....
<0> wlfshmn: its mainly the ability to go dual core that I am looking at
<2> wlfshmn: yeah, ran into that myself once or twice
<2> bsims: that would afaik just be enabling smp
<2> i think that works in even the i386 kernels
<1> bsims: smp kernels run on non-smp hardware as well. supposedly there is a theoretical performance hit, but if it's a full percentage I would be shocked
<0> Gathond: yup but I run Kaned Kernels.
<2> wlfshmn: well iirc the whole preemptible kernel thing makes use of the mutex'es and locks for smp kernels, so I would suspect the performance hit is mostly the same as running a preemptible kernel
<4> bsims: long as you run a later 2.6.x kernel you should be okay with everything, I have several asus a8n-e boards in production, though they're all running 32 bit debian
<1> bsims: kaned?
<0> libolt4: 2.6.17
<0> wlfshmn: prebuilt kernels
<4> should be fine
<1> ah
<1> bsims: yeah, I stick to that too these days.
<4> hell I run 2.4.x on several that don't use SATA :)
<0> libolt4: do I need to futz with the nforce drivers or is it all autodetected?
<4> you should be good long as you have the forcedeth driver if you're using the builtin nic (I can't remember if it had 2 nics or not)
<1> bsims: my server is an nforce chipset, and runs it's normal stuff including netwokr easily atleast
<1> bsims: since it's server, I havn't tried getting audio or non-trivial graphics though
<4> most all of my systems now use either an nforce 3 or nforce 4 based chipset
<4> except hte file server which uses a ULI piece of crap, but it's stable so..
<0> libolt4: how do I check to see if I have forcedeth?
<1> bsims: MAC begins with 00:0E:A6 I expect
<0> wlfshmn: sorry wasn't clear how do I tell if I already have the driver
<4> bsims: yeah if you are using the builtin nvidia network controller make sure you have the forcedeth kernel module
<5> Is anyone running debian etch?
<1> bsims: *shrug*
<1> bsims: my debian prebuilts have had it included for as long as I've been using the board ;)
<0> ok that makes sense, nice to know I made a sane choice
<0> wlfshmn: I just checked modconf and its there
<1> bsims: don't sue modconf..
<1> bsims: err. I dont' use it
<0> heh I use discover and hal, but its nice to know its there
<1> bsims: it gets picked up by the autoplugging, so..
<0> Worst case, I burn two slots on my ancient netcard and sound card. Whoopty ****
<1> I have a whole pile of 905's these days, since everything has networking built in
<6> wlfshmn: *nod*
<6> I prefer the 905s though :P
<0> heh I think I still have a ISA nic around
<6> ISA nicks **** though
<6> if you can even find a MOBO with ISA slots, that is
<5> bsims: if you had an MFM laying around, I would be impressed
<6> lol
<6> MFM made awesome sounds
<5> One of my buddies told me about some guy who used a discharge capacitor to launch MFM plates at high speeds.
<6> atompngn: LOL
<5> woohoo, found a link http://members.tripod.com/extreme_skier/ringlauncher/
<5> this particular buddy was into building large tesla coils as a hobby.
<1> bsims: I've long ago evicted ISA hardware from ym piles of junk
<0> wlfshmn: nah I keep them to hand to people who need to "borrow" a network card
<6> atompngn: I know the kinda
<6> -a
<1> bsims: I have a bunch of dlink pci boards for that ;)
<0> Kid will just stare at the card and try to find a slot <g>
<0> Hey now I like dlink cards
<0> Cheap and nasty like a russian tank
<1> bsims: I dislike everything dlink ;)
<6> dlink is evil. eot :P
<6> bsims: nice strategy
<0> Jostein_: The Venerable vidcard is ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R100 QD [Radeon 7200]
<6> hehehe
<5> I have a 3dfx card laying around.
<0> New card is a 6200 pci-e
<6> I think the oldest I have is some GeForce2 thingie
<4> well as long as you're not running too demanding of 3d apps you should be okay with the 6200 :)
<0> Cheapy Turbo cache model though but I don't game much and it would be hard to **** harder than that ancient 7200
<4> I run one in my mediabox
<0> libolt4: I play CS:source with the 7200
<6> GeForce2 MX 400
<4> ah well long as it works
<0> Eh it was a 80buck card
<6> my Radeon 9500 cost me ... $8 :P
<4> wow, I just paid $50 for a 6200 for a system the other day
<0> I went for 2x512M ram vs single stick one gig
<0> libolt4: yeah I got raped but it was all on one check
<4> I run a 7600gt here, but then I'm getting more and more into messing around with 3d stuff :)
<0> maybe when the price drops further, I see no point in spending more on a videocard than a new gun
<7> kill the clone Xcrashed on me
<7> anyone ops awake?
<5> how the hell does that happen anyway?
<8> bsims_: whats wrong
<5> shouldn't the session timeout?
<9> ain't gonna help, need a irc opper to kill it
<8> oh, yes.
<7> kill bsims no dash. I had X just crash on me
<6> whitecap: yup. and Revenger aint one anymore
<9> none resident any more
<5> Eww, just through out a bag of rotten spinach. It's been in the fridge for like 3 months.
<6> can always kick him anyway :P
<5> It had stuff growing on it
<6> lol
<7> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Thats a new error on me
<7> Bah off to read some ebooks
<6> gah
<6> oh well. bsims is gone anyway
<6> http://www.thedailywtf.com/images/200608/wtf2.jpg
<6> there. in honour of bsims' bad window :P
<10> roffle
<11> Linux youju 2.6.17.11-huaji #4 Sat Aug 26 17:49:09 BST 2006 alpha GNU/Linux
<11> whee, it works
<6> rhowe: thats kernel seems to have some serious juju
<12> well, its looking good so far.
<13> how're you all?
<4> we're all busy eating human flesh, want some?
<9> flesh is later, beer and bowl here after jobbing out with chores so far today.
<9> i think i'm going to smoke some sausage for my meal
<9> Jostein_: that was lunch
<12> holy ****
<12> I got dvd playback going ;)
<13> ... like 8" floppies? (Nearly wrote CDs there for a moment)
<6> heheh
<13> ... but cds are all 120mm or less
<12> Viking667: ey there.. I'm good, messing about with ubuntu
<13> yeah, 80mm or 120mm
<13> Lion-O: you are? What do you think of it? I rather like it.
<13> If I get a CD set for 6.06 I will probably be able to upgrade both boxes.
<12> Viking667: the way it looks right now I'm seriously considering to step over to it.
<13> From Debian?
<13> my only criticism (if there were to be one) is that any packages not on the CD, ya have to download. Period.
<12> Viking667: aye. Currently running testing and although it "works".. I dunno. Been busy with the Linux website using Quanta, it kept crashing. Turns out that Debian testing is approx. a half year behind with the official KDE webdev release. I don't really consider that very usefull.
<13> there's not a four-CD set of packages or whatever.
<12> Viking667: I'm grabbing everything online ;)
<13> heh. I've been using kde-3.5.1 under Freebsd, and on my machine, it STILL doesn't have serious legs.
<13> yeah. That's kinda ****y under dialup.
<13> and trashes the limits here unless I happen to have a 5GB/10GB account.
<6> one day, son, all this DSL will be yours
<12> I still need to double check on Java, dvd playback (it looks a little sluggish) and common console applications. Still, I like having both Gnome & KDE.
<13> Jostein_: err, no it won't be. By the time I manage to get onto ADSL1, everyone will be migrating to ADSL2.0
<12> wow, got amarok as it was
<6> pretty amusing :)
<5> I have Synchronous DSL and a /29 now, woohoo
<5> I don't need a /29 at home, but hey, I've got one
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