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<0> Yea I know the pattern is, might need to rework that
<0> overall visually appealing though?
<1> Cynic simple this
<0> K_F, did you try it on IE?
<1> Cynic when u finish read this, u tell me if you way worked
<2> fredk: http://www3.kfwebs.net/aur.png
<0> Yeah, the top menus are broken
<0> not supposed to be like that
<2> otherwise it is ok, sort of similar to http://www.p***ive12.net really
<2> hmm, I actually thought of http://reseller.p***ive12.net/
<0> except I dont use clipart people ;)
<0> K_F, you know Virtual Garden?
<2> not really
<2> ad company, isn't it?
<0> Yeah, quite prominent one at that
<0> they made it



<2> ok
<0> designers are expensive :(
<0> if pulled off in a decent manner they're allright
<0> I dont like overly use of flash
<2> fredk: http://www3.kfwebs.net/site.txt
<3> Hello
<0> lynx users can shove it for all I care ;)
<2> fredk: refresh
<0> K_F, I don't design for what can be considered a minor percentage of users, less than 2%
<0> if that
<2> lynx is the same as a search bot will see
<2> as well as visially impaired users using text-to-speech software
<0> fair point, you need to use text alternatives
<0> visually impaired, tough for them, but not a market large enough for me to care
<0> did you guys just get an invite from Resolver?
<3> I have one hard drive running a broken down version of linux on it. I want to wipe out that installation and start fresh. The only problem is that I have about 30 gigs of data I want to preserve. Is there a tool that I can use to create a partition on my system that I can copy my data to so that I can install a fresh copy of linux on the rest of the system?
<3> I need to preserve some data while still installinga fresh copy of linux
<2> fredk: guess it is just a result of knowing some visually impaired users
<0> sure, but again it's one of those no major markets, sad but true
<0> now, if we were the government or something like that, you should do these things
<0> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.1) = firefox?
<2> fredk: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.1) Gecko/20060124 Firefox/1.5.0.1
<2> fredk: probably seamonkey
<0> IE still dominates, atleast amongst my users
<2> 20.4 % IE users on kfwebs.net so far this year
<2> 54.6 % firefox
<3> :-(
<3> I sure would appreciate it if somebody could point me in the direction of a tool that could help me with this.
<0> K_F, I got about 50% IE
<2> fredk: steadily decreasing :)
<0> 58.56% Internet Explorer 6.x
<4> hrm. picking up some guy's AP that's very far away.. signal level -93dBm and another guy who has his AP open and another guy's who's very far away and open
<0> 12.99% firefox
<2> fredk: anyways, added some more space on http://www.forbrukermegleren.no , better now?
<5> K_F: I'm Mostly Mozilla based/Opera on one of my sites.
<0> yeah
<0> K_F, can yuo
<2> can yuo?
<0> can you make sure it ends with the same size? ;)
<5> K_F: IE even scores lower than Safari.
<0> for us it's like ie is 60%
<0> our users should be somewhat tech-savvy too
<5> fredk: and ours are not for this site
<0> impressive
<3> Hey fredk....
<0> IE scores 58.56%, firefox 12.99%, 8.68% Opera
<2> fredk: it will adjust itself once I get the content
<0> K_F, true, try ot make sure its the same size if you can
<0> rrglover, yes?
<3> Can you recommend a tool that can help me to partition my disk without losing my data?
<0> rrglover, hmm partition magic?
<3> for linux?
<0> I dont usually do that ****
<5> rrglover: tapeBackup, it's the best tool for this.
<0> I think there are linux utils too that does it, but its really not that recommended
<3> fredk: I don't have any other choice. I guess I could go buy a usb drive and then take it back
<5> fredk: the best Linux tool for this is mkisofs, or tar depending on a media outlet.
<0> JackStorm, for resizing a partition? ;)
<5> fredk: yeah, BACKUP, so this question doesn't popup
<3> JackStorm: so... you are suggestion that I use tapebackup



<0> question may still pop up, but you should have backups before you do it incase it ****s up
<3> I am looking up "tapebackup" and I don't see that it creates partitions
<3> JackStorm What exactly are you suggesting that I do?
<3> if I use fdisk to create a partition, can I just copy files to it right afterwards?
<5> you can only resize if you planed on resizing from the get go, or use a 3rd party app that you planed on using, but in either case you need to back up, and if you didn't plan, you need to back up.
<5> so back up
<3> how am I going to backup 30 gigs without buying special hardware?
<6> rrglover: get a 10 year old HDD?
<3> see
<3> the problem is that I have an old / buggy motherboard
<3> I can't get other drives to work on it
<3> I really should just go buy a new motherboard
<5> Jostein_: solve F(1+x) == F(1) == 1 in non exp time for me, and prove it.
<7> If you're going to be resizing, I'd recommend GNU parted
<3> gnu parted?
<7> Yep
<3> reality : thanks
<3> this is the tool that I'm looking for
<4> <-- looks for some AP management software that doesn't require installation of apache on the ap
<5> reality: but he needs to shrink the fs beforehand, if the fs supports it.
<5> reality: and growing is another mater.
<3> I just want to create a 50gig partition and move data to it
<3> can I do that?
<5> what data
<7> JackStorm: So what you're saying is that he doesn't currently have 50 gigs free?
<3> zo svyis;;u fp
<3> I actually do
<3> I mean
<8> hi
<5> reality: he never said contiguous
<7> If he's got free space but it's just locked up in his current filesystem, then parted is what he needs to use.
<8> What is the program on linux for active dual monitor on ati
<3> what command do I use to see how much space a directory is using?
<7> rrglover: df -h
<3> it says it's using 48G of 67G
<0> hmm a thought, I got a network which I should firewall, now *where* do I firewall?
<6> despite cluebie hor and what not
<0> I mean, do I firewall between each subnet?
<2> fredk: depends on the purpose
<6> hour*
<5> reality: if / is the first 5G and /var is the next 5G of a 60G drive how can one expand / +50G with out planing ahead?
<0> the boxes on each host can be considered as not trusted
<3> sounds like I"m gonna have to get something else to store my **** on
<7> JackStorm: I see what you're saying
<0> uh subnet
<2> fredk: can put the firewall on the router that connects them
<9> wow... actual technical discussions... I must be in the wrong channel
<0> K_F, that would be the switch with the current configuration
<0> I *can* firewall on the switch, but not ideal
<6> K_F: feel like drinking some wine tonight? :P
<9> fredk: why not just VLAN
<2> Jostein_: I'm having beer already
<2> should get some sleep soon anyways
<0> Tamahome, I do vlan
<6> heh
<9> then you shouldn't need firewalling no? except for Internet-facing stuff
<0> but granted that each vlan can be considered not trusted, shouldnt you be firewalling between the vlans too?
<2> Tamahome: something tells me everything is internet-facing :)
<9> fredk: it just seems like overkill
<0> Maybe, i'm just looking for opinions here
<9> properly VLAN'ed... they shouldn't be able to see each other's trafic
<0> these are dedicated boxes for example
<2> yeah, figured that
<0> well, yes they can't, but they can ping eachother and go through the gateway which is the switch in this case
<9> they can ping? seems odd
<9> mind you, I don't find ping evil
<0> is it? it's being routed through the gateway like any other internet facing traffic
<2> anyways. g'night
<2> fredk, Jostein_ : get some sleep


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