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<0> nm1: What takes 100 steps?
<1> ty for the advice, K_F
<2> K_F, I don't much care for linux as a desktop OS, i've used it plenty, I just find it awkward
<1> exactly
<3> fredk: I find everything else awkward :)
<4> K_F: tried xgl yet=?
<2> well, it's what you get used to.
<5> hi , can anyone tell me if on sunos the compile command is gcc ??
<3> Jostein_: nope
<3> fredk: I just love the KDE I/O slave
<6> www24: offtopic.
<4> K_F: coward :P
<2> But, my thing is that I just want to do whatever it is that I want to do, I don't want to spend half a day configuring it
<4> K_F: that rocks. indeed
<6> www24: try #sunos
<3> Jostein_: I'm not a fan of fancy effects
<5> i tryed
<7> anyone ever tried connect a firewire device to vmware?
<8> www24: let me guess they kicked you out?
<3> pepper: not really
<6> www24: good boy.
<0> www24: SunOS ain't linux
<5> nop
<4> K_F: well. I just like that the graphics hardware you have finally gets some use to offload the cpu
<9> it's not?
<4> K_F: eyecandy on top of that is always nice :P
<3> Jostein_: I prefer functionality over eye-candy
<9> ask Lion-O about SunOS, he *loves* to be asked about it
<7> K_F, the problem is it wont show as a "General SCSI device"
<1> no i mean....a simple app like windows picture and fax viewer....in linux, i dunno...everytime i try to use linux as my desktop os, i come out frustrated
<9> I'm not really convinced of the java desktop stuff yet anyway
<6> AMAZING. I thought it was just the same considering how I see "linux:/home/peter $ " on my Debian box and "magi:/home/peter $ " on my Solaris box ;)
<0> nm1: That's because it's different
<4> K_F: I like things rather minimalist. But I also like eyecandy. call me a weirdo or something
<3> Jostein_: weirdo :)
<6> smsie: no no no, I only use Solaris, not SunOS ;-)
<0> nm1: There are plenty of easy to install/use distros out there...like Ubuntu
<10> anyone know where i can get pkg-get in a .tar.gz form , easy to install on comon distro's ? pkg-get or something alike
<2> Lion-O, slowlaris? *grin*
<6> fredk: *fwap* :P
<0> nm1: They come with everything you need to get working out of the box.
<9> Lion-O: aren't they the same thing? (I admit, you are the expert on this)
<1> yea? hmm
<4> fredk: oh that was what we were talking about? :P
<1> i'm using slack-kde atm
<3> ROFL
<2> no wonder you think linux ****s
<0> nm1: That's your first problem
<2> haha
<4> nm1: then you have literally asked for a ****y OS
<2> hey, you guys ever used a blackberry?
<1> its nice to learn the ins and outs of an os....but for desktop wysiwyg use....its sad
<9> no, but I know a couple people who do
<6> smsie: hmm, hmm ;) Yes and no, thats why I'm joking. Its a topic of much discussion (like vi vs emacs) but I like to go with "sunos is the os while solaris is the os + all other tidbits combined".
<9> I'm not convinced I want a blackberry
<4> nm1: you -do- know there are no linux distroes -worse- than slackware, right? that there are real distroes out there too?
<0> nm1: Slack lacks a bunch of things found in modern day linux
<11> smsie: i'm sure you dont.
<2> smsie, is the os decent?
<3> nm1: don't blame it all on a ****y distro, you have to blame most of it on the research that made you select a ****y distro
<9> fredk: no idea. It's a windows mobile type thing I thinkl
<8> reality: package management?
<0> Emerson: sysV, PAM, etc
<9> sanity?>
<0> Jostein_: There's already one in #LinuxHelp
<1> i like slack because it is ..well... i dunno ...guess i got used to it
<9> reality: ah, it doesn't actually need sysV. bsdinit is just as useful. The lack of pam is pretty annoying though
<2> it doesnt have PAM?
<3> nm1: in which case why are you trolling that you don't like it?
<9> nm1: that's fine. Try Debian instead
<1> i liked it bcuz it didnt have the "bulge" that other distros had
<4> reality: heh
<5> sa moara masa ... numai retarzi aici :) sa va yau mamele in pula la totzi :))
<4> reality: for some odd reason I dont fell like hanging out there
<8> www24: hey retard, english only
<11> i've had wawa breakfast, and now i'm happy.
<0> nm1: You speak of bulge, yet you use KDE?
<9> www24: gnyx ratyvfu be yrnir ba gur raq bs zl obbg!
<1> yea...i found gnome annoying too
<5> emerson ... sa o fut pe mata shi sa dau cu tractoru' peste ea :))))))))
<1> kde is bad, too
<4> reality: to be honest both kde and gnome have that "bulge"
<1> true
<8> thank you smsie
<0> nm1: And without proper package management, your system gets cluttered with old tarballs when you need to upgrade
<2> hey, a question, if you buy a harddrive for your printer, is the general idea that it should store jobs even through a reboot?
<0> Jostein_: I don't use either of them
<10> anyone know a nicely portable install tool for linux ? like gentoo's\freebsd's portage, or debians pkg-get .. someone that one of you have tryed porting with sucess ?
<4> reality: there seems to be no decent desktop environment for linux without a major overhead
<9> the major thing slack is missing is a sane package manager
<8> speak of.. time of for the daily update ; upgrade
<1> hmm i guess
<4> reality: I tried a few others, but I just didnt like them
<9> of course, that's pretty much what *defines* a distro...
<6> Gentooed: hmm ;) I like debootstrap.
<0> Jostein_: My desktop is my media center...
<1> last year, i tried about 10 distros...finally settled on slack
<0> Jostein_: It's about as stripped down of bulge as can be
<9> nm1: good for you!
<8> nm1: what did you try?
<4> reality: cde? :P
<10> Lion-O: il look it up and see what i can find
<9> nm1: Undernet #linux tends not to like slackware very much though
<1> slack, gentoo, ubuntu, redhat, mandrake, debian, dsl, some others
<1> yeah? lol
<1> how come?
<0> Jostein_: xfce
<9> because it's unmaintainable
<9> and many of us are sysadmins
<4> reality: so I thought. for some odd reason I never liked xfce
<1> oh ok cool
<0> Jostein_: Doesn't matter if you like it or not...it's not seen. Mythtv is the only thing you see
<9> nm1: you know what upgrades in slack are like. You imagine trying to do that sanely across 50 mission critical servers
<1> i'm ***uming all u sysadmins use some form of linux, right?
<4> reality: ah
<0> Jostein_: On an 8 foot projection screen
<9> nm1: where downtime is NOT an option
<4> reality: I have never really tried out mythtv. but I never got a TV-tuner card until last weekend :P
<8> nm1: no, most of the ops use BSD **ducks and runs**
<1> i cant imagine a sysadmin working on win2k or some such os
<9> using slack just isn't sane for most of us
<8> smsie: slack isn't sane
<9> nm1: we work on what we're paid to work on :)
<1> hmm
<9> Emerson: I know :)
<4> nm1: because that would be -craaazy-
<4> nm1: and back to reality
<1> bsd? dunno much about that os
<12> nm1: I use primarily win2k as a desktop OS, and linux/solaris on servers.
<1> lol
<9> BSD is at least maintainable (albeit it's more work)
<1> hmm
<4> gunstar: s/on/or/
<8> gunstar: that is just wrong
<4> smsie: I like BSD a heck of a lot more than slackware. at least its consistent
<9> nm1: I use Win2k, winXP, Solaris, HPNS, Debian, RHEL... Whatever works at the time
<9> Jostein_: indeed. I *could* deploy BSD on a server. I couldn't deploy slackware
<1> which linux distro would u recommend as a desktop os, which has the least "bulge"?
<6> that depends on the admin, not the distro.
<1> and which is as close to xp in terms of user-friendliness?
<0> nm1: Again, bulge is all relative
<9> nm1: they all have "bulge". Debian probably has least
<1> hm
<8> nm1: xp is not user friendly.. is stupid friendly
<1> hehe
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