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<0> "please read out your account number"
<0> I have a goddamned numeric keypad in front of me you idiot
<0> "What is your account number?"
<1> rhowe: You call an IVR "idiot"? Now who's the moron?
<2> nobody wrote java cl*** to recognize dtmf, so there :)
<3> rhowe: IVRs with voice recognition as the only input should be abolished.
<0> OK so now I have to read out my account number instead of silently dialling it in
<0> PolarWolf: I was referring to the designer :)
<1> rhowe: Ah, hmm.
<4> there's a couple of voice-response IVR systems here in Vancouver that simply *do* *not* *work* if you have any kind of foreign accent at all
<0> kosmo: To be fair, I didn't try using the keypad, but it might be possible to use DTMF
<0> Liandrin: haha
<4> ahd there's *no* way around them >.<
<0> Liandrin: Immigration? :)
<4> rhowe, Fido (cellphone provider), Telus (provincial monopoly telco)
<0> Liandrin: They don't do textphone or something?
<4> in the case of Fido, not if you want to check your prepay balance or add credit
<1> I heard we have a self solving problem here in .nl: To get a temporary staying permit, you gotta show up at the municipality with a visum. To get a visum which eligables you for a staying permit, you need...yep, a staying permit
<4> and you can't get out of the IVR hell and talk to a human
<1> Perfect!
<0> Liandrin: heh
<3> rhowe: Sears has one of those.... "so tell me, what do you want to do: A, B, or C?"
<4> PolarWolf, perhaps "visa", "temporary residence visa"?
<0> kosmo: ROFL
<3> rhowe: Im sorry, I couldnt understand you. A, B, or C?"
<3> rhowe: A
<3> rhowe: "transferring you to C"
<0> kosmo: "****in' a" :)
<3> AUGH
<1> Liandrin: Fukt if I know, but it sounds like something we'd be able to come up with
<0> PolarWolf: Here you're allowed to apply for such things, but only if you have 6 months remaining on your current permit
<0> PolarWolf: And I think they keep changing the rules, so if you don't want to be caught out you need to check quite frequently what the current time limit is
<1> rhowe: Hehe
<1> The result is that people stay on their tourist visum
<0> PolarWolf: No doubt they've had instances where if you'd got a 1 year permit on certain dates, there would never have been a time when you could legitimately renew it :)
<1> rhowe: There has to be someone who came up with it.
<1> Someone clever.
<0> PolarWolf: For example, Jia's "finite leave to remain" which she can apply for after marrying me (and which she has got now) can only be applied for if she has 6 months remaining on her visa
<1> If we do <this> and require <that>, we create a iterative loop without solution. Problem solved, time to go home.
<0> PolarWolf: That only covers her for the next 2 years though
<0> PolarWolf: The ILR (indefinite leave to remain) which covers her forever, so long as she doesn't leave the country for more than 2 years, etc, she has to apply for in the last 28 days of her FLR permit's validity
<0> PolarWolf: 28 days isn't a whole lot of time to get a residency permit sorted out - especially if anything at all goes wrong
<1> rhowe: The idea is to keep people out. Believe me.
<0> PolarWolf: Last month, over 50% of my earnings went directly to the government :)
<1> rhowe: That's their MO
<0> dammit, easynet still haven't made that DNS change
<0> Guess they'll sit on it until the morning
<5> hmmm... I wonder what it'd take to import a wife to the U.S.
<6> rhowe: between taxes and child support, I only get to keep about 25% of what I earn.
<7> hello
<8> Well, fixed my blog finally. Lost my damn theme though. Wah.
<7> mv shoutcast.tcl a&a_shoutcast.tcl
<7> it dont works...
<7> what shout i do ?
<3> MetriX: fix it. Duh.
<7> no... is about linux bug
<7> to make a&a
<9> O_o;
<7> i must put something like a/&/a
<7> i dont know the right combination :(
<4> a\&a_shoutcast.tcl
<4> or "a&a_shoutcast.tcl"
<4> or 'a&a_shoutcast.tcl"
<4> or better, don't use & in filenames :P
<3> MetriX: its not a bug.
<10> its a feature
<7> thanks Liandrin
<7> u`re good
<11> MetriX: please use English here
<7> i just sayid that Liandrin is good
<9> interesting how when something doesn't work the way they expect, they immediately suspect a bug...
<7> my english "****s
<7> this why i sayid is bug...
<3> MetriX: its not a bug.
<9> and traditionally, it's a lack of understanding on the users part
<8> ksh: it's easier for them to bel;ieve the system is messed up, instead of their mind.
<11> MetriX: "u're" is not even /trying/ to use English.
<1> Lion-O: Sure it is! It evolved from "ur" to actually using an apostrophe
<1> Those other two letters are just details
<11> PolarWolf: lol
<12> U're sounds pretty close to urine :P
<13> bit like commercial lager then?
<6> K_F: perhaps when you actually approach her and start talking to her....
<8> Cna't believe I don't have a backup of my backup so now I'm screwed. God hates me.
<6> If you just stand there drooling like an idiot, she'll probably think you're either a geek or a perv
<14> Ka-bar: wrong girl..
<6> right. never mind then.
<14> ex thinks repetative action will lead to different results
<6> Falchion: god isn't the only one who hates you. The backup fairies hate you too.
<4> K_F, that's the definition of insanity, ne?
<14> Liandrin: jup
<6> K_F: ex still stalking you?
<14> Ka-bar: she is 700km away, so can't call it stalking per se
<4> stalking is stalking, physically present or not
<14> I sort of like it though
<8> Ka-bar: Bah. Lost the pic of me, lost my theme... But aside from that, the rest works at least.
<15> Falchion: lost? Where's the backup?
<14> was about to say
<6> oh, the pic of you. no great loss then...
<14> hehe
<15> K_F: she still phoning?
<8> It was a decent pic of me :P
<15> must have been a fake
<14> whyzzyrd: not for some days at least..
<14> no call since the 11th, and I called her then, a building at her student city partially collapsed
<8> whyzzyrd: I'm good with photoshop :)
<14> first messages from the police was rather vague..
<4> K_F, cause, or effect? ;)
<14> Liandrin: elaborate?
<14> referring to the building collapsing, or phoning?
<4> K_F, did the building collapse because you called, or did you call because the building collapsed? ;)
<14> Liandrin: I called her when I heard it on the police band, the message was just that a building at her student city had collapsed and that they didn't see anything due to smoke
<14> thankfully it turned out to be a 3 story building and a partial collapse (scewed a couple of meters) and not a full collapse of a 13 story building
<14> anyways, she is back at her parent's place, and have an internet connection. so she attempts to MSN me daily
<4> K_F, that's what the "block" button is for :P
<1> Yeah, that's fixable
<14> no no.. then she wouldn't see when I'm connected
<14> why should I make things easy for the bitch?
<16> Hi all. I would like to know which program may i use to make an image of my Hard Disk within SUSE. Thanks
<14> and I don't have a block button per se..... I use a commandline client :)
<14> Yianni323: man dd
<16> ok
<15> K_F: and secretly, you quite like the idea that she might still be hung up on you..
<15> K_F: why would you need that?
<14> whyzzyrd: secretly?
<1> ego tripping?
<14> whyzzyrd: upped milage from 12kkm to 16kkm today, next step 20kkm
<14> thankfully fixed within an hour by an email to a nice lady
<15> K_F: I have a 50kkm limit.
<14> 5 795 USD for 16kkm
<14> no wait.. that is for 20kkm
<14> 5 063 for 16
<14> what it means though is that even with the gas prices we have here, I pay more for insurance than gasoline
<15> muck fee. mine's about 550 USD/year, and I bitch about that
<14> thankfully it decreases by year as I get built some bonus
<14> whyzzyrd: 20 year old, relatively expensive car, largest city in Norway
<15> K_F: I suppose. My car falls into "sports saloon" though.
<14> insurance companies don't like me by default :)
<12> hehe
<15> but I have 9 years on you.
<15> and live in the sticks
<14> whyzzyrd: I only have a 20% bonus, I get 10 percentage points per year
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