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<0> ****ing hell
<0> setting up VPN is trivial
<0> trying to get it past nat is a pain
<0> I'll try again in a day or two
<1> hasn't been too bad lately for me.
<1> with all the goodie NAT-T stuff in openswan
<2> ey dude do u all know how can i get tutorial from mandriva im newbie plz
<3> smsie: Howdie
<1> solid-snake: www.mandriva.com
<4> solid-snake: Im sure you googled and checked their website
<0> Kataki: heya Tron
<4> </sarcasm>
<0> I want something as simple as "vpn $MACHINE" and have it just work
<3> smsie: Haha! Dream on. :)
<0> Kataki: amazingly, if I'm on windows and not natted, and want to vpn to another windows, it's fairly close to that
<0> it's insecure as all ****, but that's a different question
<3> smsie: How secure is that though? :P
<3> Heh
<1> echo ipsec auto --up $1 > /usr/sbin/vpn && chmod 0700 /usr/sbin/vpn
<4> smsie: it's that simple, but I have -NFI- idea about security
<4> smsie: the wonders of wizards doing -everything- for you :P
<0> yeah
<1> most of my VPNs are x509 based.
<1> so once I set 'em up, it's pretty easy to connect.
<1> just up the conn and go.
<5> heya sig
<1> hey Nanuq
<0> siglite: yeah, it's the "once set up" part :)
<1> smsie: *nod*
<1> the nat-t thing really pissed me off in the early days of ipsec. Now it's well supported on linux.
<1> the REAL fun **** is interop.
<1> "can you connect your linux vpn thingy to $lame***edcannedfirewallvendor?"
<1> most of the time, the answer's yes, at least with PSK.
<1> but I loathe PSK.
<6> I'm glad all 20 boxes in my vpn are debian sarge systems with openswan
<1> libolt4: same here.
<7> nanuq interesting japanese book btw
<1> ich ni san chi go ro .... uh....
<5> docfu: any good?
<6> it's just too bad they can't connect themselves to systems on the other side of the vpn, I'd like my snort to log stuff to the mysql DB that's behind the corporate vpn gateway
<5> ichi in my pantsu
<1> libolt4: they're host-to-host VPNs?
<1> libolt4: usually you can do that.
<1> libolt4: define two connections.
<1> one that's direct, one with a leftsubnet=
<1> or rightsubnet=
<1> depending on which hand your're spanking with that particular day./
<5> siglite: left on special occasions
<5> siglite: or start with left, finish with right
<5> siglite: more control
<6> yeah, I can connect from the server to one of the other vpn gateways, but not the other way, I"ll have to investigate it further, I've had no real need for it until now
<1> Nanuq: this is entirely too much information.
<1> libolt4: it's doable. I do it all the time./
<5> siglite: Oh yeah?
<1> Nanuq: definitely.
<5> siglite: Okay.
<6> siglite: alright thanks I'll look into it once I get snort properly deployed on all systems
<8> care esti tata pe aici shi sa fii roman
<8> ?
<9> bouncy romulan
<3> With "dj" prepended to nick.
<3> Instant. Target.
<4> wow. the ball left
<3> Wise ball.
<1> we should just do a ban on dj*!*@*.ro
<3> siglite: And "lord*!*@*.ro"
<1> hah, yeah
<4> heh
<5> and *@*.ca, those damn canucks
<5> heh heh
<7> well
<3> Just the quebecans :P
<7> i think that golf case idea is going to work
<7> i'm just going to run it by my friend one more time
<6> docfu: sticking a midget in a golf case?
<10> trying to ship your guitar, doc?
<10> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/544502/
<10> just get a road case
<7> tenbaseT um the case isn't the problem
<7> its the fact that the airline wants more than half what the damn thing is worth to take it onboard cause they won't do it as checked
<7> on a side note i'm almost ready to order tickets
<7> and i'm very glad to say that they are $100 cheaper than I expected
<6> docfu: don't you worry, we'll submit your profile to the FBI once you've settled in at japan just in case you get any ideas of coming back :)
<7> libolt just as long as i get there :)
<7> i still have to settle the problem of my car, but i think i have an incentive for my older sister to do so
<10> docfu: why wont they let you check it?
<10> docfu: I've never heard of that before
<7> tbt because its a musical instrument
<7> holdon
<7> http://www.nwa.com/travel/luggage/specialitems.html#musical
<7> Musical instruments are not included in the free luggage allowance and an excess fee of $80.00 USD will apply for domestic travel. For international travel, overweight/oversize luggage fees vary by country.
<7> they'll take ****ing golf clubs but not a damn guitar
<11> docfu: It cost me $200+ to bring my cat on a plane and **** fit under the seat.
<7> falchion ripoff isn't it?
<11> yep.
<11> And they won't take golfclubs either. Too big.
<11> http://wwwapps.ups.com/WebTracking/processInputRequest?HTMLVersion=5.0&tracknums_displayed=5&TypeOfInquiryNumber=T&loc=en_US&InquiryNumber1=1z05w3580100164368&InquiryNumber2=&InquiryNumber3=&InquiryNumber4=&InquiryNumber5=&AgreeToTermsAndConditions=yes&track.x=19&track.y=7
<7> yeah
<11> oops.
<7> click on golf clubs on that page
<12> Holy long ugly URL, Batman
<1> wow
<10> docfu: just mail it
<11> heh That was a UPS tracking link for my xbox360
<7> TBT too expensive
<11> I love thr AgreeToTermsAndConditions. Couldn't that be abbreviated
<7> would be conditionally cheaper to buy second guitar...if i knew of a shop
<4> Falchion: that was the best :P
<11> docfu: where you going to?
<7> japan
<1> man, if you can't find a good deal on a guitar in .jp, you're blind.
<4> docfu: arent there shops -everywhere-?
<11> Jostein: ? the TaC?
<4> Falchion: yeah
<7> tbt basically the first time i flew over i was a stomach wreck up until i reached the counter
<10> why?
<11> siglite: You'll find shedloads of guitars in .jp. They'll all look like ktheir from the 89's but still....
<7> then this old hag grabed my bags, didn't even weight em and just tossed em on the plane
<4> docfu: not just in japan. I mean -everywhere-. Every little dirt town has a guitar shop
<7> BAM international there i was
<11> docfu: Times have changed. And the airlines are doing ****ty
<11> God damnit. That package better be here tomorrow.
<7> this was 3 years ago
<7> i'd almost say they were in worse shape then
<11> Like 5 airlines have gone bankrupt since then
<1> Falchion: every marine I ever knew bought thier (usually very nice) guitar for peanuts on okinawa or mainland .jp
<10> http://search.ebay.com/ws/search/SaleSearch?sofocus=bs&satitle=guitar&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC5&fbd=1&nojspr=y&sorefinesearch=1&catref=C5&from=R14&nojspr=y&fscl=1&pfid=0&fswc=1&few=&saprclo=&saprchi=&fss=0&saslop=1&sasl=&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D0&fls=3&salic=104&saatc=1&sadis=200&fpos=&fsct=&sacur=0&sacqyop=ge&sacqy=&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&sabdlo=&sabdhi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&fcl=3&frpp=50
<10> just buy a guitar once you get there
<11> TenBaseT: Trying to beat my link length?
<11> heh
<10> I could give you a tinyurl
<7> heh
<10> but you'd be wondering if it was hai2u
<1> yeah, but that'll be tubgirl.
<11> TenBaseT: hehe
<4> tinyurl=tubgirl :P
<7> tbt so you are just saying buy one when i get there?
<13> siglite, big deal, you've seen it before :)
<10> docfu: I'm saying it might be cheaper
<4> docfu: Id say that at least
<10> docfu: I'm sure japan has pawn shops
<4> docfu: I dont trust airliners with my instruments
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