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<0> his msn is live however
<1> I se.e.
<2> amazing.. now i have no virtual console :P
<3> yoz: danke
<3> ought to be more fish in the sea, so guess it is time to start looking
<3> the fun thing about that analogy is that I import literally thousands of tonnes of fish a year..
<3> yeah,yeah..
<4> K_F: sometimes it can be easier to admit it's not working, than pretend it is.
<3> whyzzyrd: yeah, still, we were together for two years...
<3> but I agree, better to find out now than in 10 years
<4> K_F: It doesn't make it any easier to split up, knowing that it could have been worse.
<5> with your what?
<3> spouse
<5> ah
<3> gf and I broke it off today
<0> she stormed out one time too many, and I decided I wasn't going to ask her (or even allow her) back....
<5> Ouch, well, that ****s.
<3> DaveHowe: sound familiar
<0> I decided "do what I want or I will leave you" is't much to base a relationship on
<4> DaveHowe: That it isn't.
<0> so now I am recycling one of smsie's old girlfriends :)
<5> HAH
<4> DaveHowe: That's a funny use of "recycling"..
<0> well, its a new and novel euphemism anyhow :)
<4> K_F: I still find it a strange idea that one can recycle a person..
<0> its ecologically friendly - you don't want linux-aware girls lying around the place and only having windoze dorks to date....
<3> you recycle the person's "services"
<4> K_F: as in payment for "services" rendered?
<4> DaveHowe: There are not that many geek girls about, right enough.
<0> although she is mostly on windoze these days - she is using graphics packages that dont' have a decent linux equivlient
<6> hmmmm?
<4> If Adobe and autocad would port their products, there'd be not a fat lot left that'd keep me on windows.
<3> how is linuxCAD these days?
<6> There is Catia on Linux, even if not quite AutoCAD
<6> but still closed source
<3> autocad seem to run decent in wine
<4> I need autocad for work.
<3> but yeah, if work is an entirely MS-shop it is easier to keep a windows boxen around
<3> I have a virtual machine for that, mostly SPSS
<4> work ain't 100% windows. far from it. but I do *need* Autocad, and pagemaker. Most other stuff I can do in linux. Gimp's not a patch on photoshop, but it's good enough for what I do most of the time.
<7> helloa
<7> german , english ?
<3> English
<7> hmm
<7> got a question, does somebody know how i get some NTFS write Access under Knoppix ?
<3> google
<3> and it probably isn't a good idea
<7> ya
<7> but i want delete some file from WINXP, which i cant delete under winxp
<7> and xp save mode
<7> -v+f
<3> it has rescue mode
<7> well okay thx
<7> i try a another way
<3> the sound certification system?
<7> cya
<0> mentalray: your best bet is to locate and download the iso for a "winpe" rescue disk and use that. but this isn't really linux related
<3> DaveHowe: nah, if he just want to delete a file it is just to use the rescue mode..
<3> give you CLI access
<8> i..hate..work
<3> did you put a cover sheet on the TPS reports?
<6> K_F speaking about SPSS, what do you think or R?
<8> haha
<3> f3ew: I like it really
<6> how does it compare?
<0> K_F: well in win2k I need the original install os cd to reach rescue mode. xp could be different I admit
<3> problem is that all the lectures are in SPSS, and the price isn't an issue due to student versions
<6> ah
<3> DaveHowe: well, if he does't have the original install cd I don't really care
<3> he eitiher has an admin or a pirated copy then
<0> K_F: most oem installs of XP don't come with an os cd
<3> true, but usually has its own rescue stuff
<0> K_F: yup. a bootable cd that restores it back to factory state (usually, but not always, keeping data flies while doing it. sometimes doing effectively a ghost and wiping the machine)
<3> then again, not like I've used windows for some years anyways, but I wouldn't mount an NTFS partition RW
<0> not under linux
<0> but winpe is native windoze - supports ntfs
<3> jup
<4> K_F: Trinity Rescue Kit.
<3> then again, last time I did use windows I used some EFS stuff as well
<0> *nods*
<0> winpe won't touch efs - you need the native cert databae for that
<0> mind you - this is a damned handy util
<0> http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker
<0> (downside - we appear to be discussing MS windoze on #linux. argh....)
<8> damn...i am hungry, but do not know what I want to eat
<3> DaveHowe: hehe
<6> Teakk chocolate
<0> K_F: which tbh would have fixed his problem quickly and easily - if I cared to be helpful to a windoze user asking questions in a linux channel...
<8> heh
<3> hehe
<4> DaveHowe: I commiserate with you. How do you put up with the lusers without killing them?
<4> We were interviewing for a helldesk manager recently, and one of the candidates we knew.
<4> The question they had to prepare was "How would you measure the success of the helpdesk in a years' time".
<0> whyzzyrd: I charge them for the priviledge. its amazing how much getting money makes up for not being able to laugh openly at them
<4> His reply for us techies was: "By how many graves there are beside the IT building".
<9> whyzzyrd: A good helpdesk manager will give the right answer to the right audience
<10> hello
<4> PolarWolf: yes. A bad helpdesk manager just says "Yes" to everyone and everything.
<9> whyzzyrd: That'll be an SLM
<4> PolarWolf: a PITA too.
<9> whyzzyrd: Everything between users and techies is PITA as well as organisational overhead
<9> whyzzyrd: But I guess it's a necessary layer to prevent techies from shooting their users
<0> whyzzyrd: a "decent" helpdesk manager could be evaluated that way. with a GOOD helpdesk manager, you could be sure you would never find the graves ;)
<0> PolarWolf: no, lusers ask the same bloody stupid questions again and again. helpdesks are the organic equivlient of a manual, and one the users actually bother to consult
<9> DaveHowe: Yeah...because of the helpdesk, there are still users to service
<0> that too. you can't kill them all though - or who will pay you for service? :)
<8> v whyzzyrdwhyzzyrdwhyzzyrdwhyzzyrdwhyzzyrdxxx
<8> whoa..damn pda
<1> lol
<0> obviously, one or two of the stupider ones not only reduce the helldesk load, but serve as an example for the others....
<9> DaveHowe: **** that, we techies work for our own fun, not because we need users :)
<4> Teakk: ?
<11> users can be fun too
<0> PolarWolf: nice theory. however, someone has to pay for the pizza coke and coffee :)
<10> hello, can anyone please help me see the mouse cursor in knoppix?
<11> especially the younger nurses....
<8> whoops...just called compusa and wasn't thinking, and asked to speak to someone in electronics.....
<11> and some of those junior doctors, ****...
<0> PolarWolf: and the cuter or smarter ones can be ok. the cuter ones if only for decorative purposes, the smarter ones might evolve into geeks someday :)
<9> DaveHowe: Hmm, blond, stupid and willing is generally sufficient.
<11> users evolving into geeks? is that even legal?
<9> DaveHowe: For the females anyway
<8> whyzz: sorry...my pda was in my pocket
<0> smsie: its a dirty and shameful secret but... almost all geeks were users once
<11> PolarWolf: the blonde and stupid parts are optional...just "willing" is good enough for me :)
<9> smsie: Haha
<0> obviously never as far down the chain as to be Lusers, but users nonetheless
<9> smsie: I have standards :)
<9> Not very high ones, but standards nontheless
<11> DaveHowe: that's simply untrue. I refuse to believe you were *ever* a user. You were *born* a bastard. You had an etherkiller instead of a rattle
<9> smsie: Sorry to disappoint you, but I too have been turned. I'm not a pureblood :)
<0> smsie: nah. if I were genetically a bofh, I could have made xwindows work myself :)
<9> I too was once human.
<11> DaveHowe: camoflague
<11> thjat's not spelt right
<11> how do you spell camoflague?
<9> smsie: dict knows
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