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<0> Identify the song ;-P
<1> marz: any more trollish comments?
<2> no :(
<3> heh
<1> PolarWolf: oh well, I see that its only a statement made at JavaCon, it doesn't say anything yet.
<4> Lion-O: We'll see what happens. But you know, when the cat's out of the bag...
<0> marz: the answer, of course, is that it depends what you're doing with it.
<1> PolarWolf: hmm, we'll see :P
<2> :)
<5> Falchion, what is a good price ot charge $client for training of how to administer $e_commerce_solution ?
<5> (if they decide to take on that task themselves)
<0> marz: I'm very happy with my dual opteron. It's getting old now though, it must be coming up 2.5 years.
<2> lmao
<5> IE: Client choose osCommerce for their e-commerce solution..has me install it, do the initial layouts, etc...but, they want to do product management on it...to train them how to do that should be charged...but, how much?
<3> Steakk: As much as you can get away with. Me, personally? I wouldn't do it.
<5> Falchion, refuse training, so they are forced to keep me on retainer? *grin*
<2> ( Cpu Stats ) .7% user .8% sys .2% nice 6.1% idle | [||||||||||||||||||||||||||||] ( 3.8% )
<5> Falchion, I was gonns say $75.00/hour
<5> minimum of 3 hours
<0> my turn to lmao eh
<3> Steakk: Yes, but not just because of that, though it is a big part.
<6>
<0> Steakk: you ought to outline immediately your charges for unfux0ring it when they luser it up.
<5> whyzzyrd, that is stated in this agreement
<3> Steakk: If he wants to learn on his own, he can do that himself. In the mean time, your job is your job. Don't do training. Just like you don't provide support for someone else's product.
<3> Steakk: Since you're asking me about pricing and all, i should charge YOU a consultation fee ;) heh
<5> LoL
<5> there ya go :P
<5> Viking667, Lion-O is the resident ******* expert
<5> err, s/*******/solaris
<3> Steakk: That would work!
<7> lol. It was sumfin simple.
<5> Falchion, haha
<3> I wish I knew why my blog can't send frickin' emails. Hmm
<7> basically, how to get ppp working. Seems a device is locked, only I can't see by what process.
<8> Falchion: probably a dns problem
<3> Ka-bar: Die.
<9> Ka-bar: haha
<0> Falchion what's?
<1> Viking667: shouldn't be a big issue; /etc/ppp is basicly all you need.
<3> huh?
<0> Falchion: you beaver? Define beavering? ;-P
<3> whyzzyrd: Well, if you dont' know, I'm sure not going to waste my time explaining it to you!
<5> It is to be noted that if you refuse the right to have Digital Web Services perform the maintenance on the Online Product Guide, and an error is made at the activities of the client that renders any portion, or the whole website, COMPANY NAME waives any and all responsibilities and rights for loss of product, inventory management, revenue, <-- what else can I throw in there to cover my ***?
<0> Falchion: just because you don't know yourself.. </goad>
<5> COMPALNY_NAME will be my compant...Digital Web Services is also replaced with my company name(dunno what to call it yet :P)
<3> whyzzyrd: Nice try, beaverless one!
<0> LMAOFOADKTHXBYE inc.
<0> Falchion: I fear that the force of the beaver is weaker with you than I, my son.. </goad>
<3> hehe bye :P
<7> Lion-O: yeah, I know that NOW, but it seems that /dev/cua/a is being locked by a process, yet it doesn't show up in fuser
<1> Viking667: what is saying that its locked? it could be a mere lockfile, thats basicly the same approach Linux uses.
<7> whyzzyrd: I remember what the other item was now that you had included in your parcel - one extra CPU & heatsink
<0> Viking667: PIII wasn't it?
<7> Lion-O: hrm. Didn't think of that one until now. I started pppd, it said can't start as a device is locked. I used SMC to take the serial port offline, but I read through the manual last night, says I should set it to "dial-out"
<7> whyzzyrd: yeah. I think so.
<7> whyzzyrd: main thing being as long as the mobo here supports it.
<0> Viking667: ok.
<1> Viking667: hmm, could be. I hardly use that front end.
<7> Lion-O: also, where the freak is the compiler???
<0> Viking667: you mean you didn't buy Sun Workshop?
<1> Viking667: depends if you installed one. Usually /usr/sfw/bin/gcc.
<7> m.
<1> Viking667: I'd suggest grabbing Sun Studio 11 though, then you can get a native compiler.
<7> wow CPU temp only 20 C
<7> FEER da cool!
<7> Lion-O: oh. How long'll THAT take to download over 48k modem?
<0> what sort of cpu is it, and what mad refrigerated heatsink?
<1> Viking667: nfi.
<0> Viking667: if you find me a link, I'll snag it, and CD it.
<7> whyzzyrd: lol. it's Solaris 10. And Sun Studio 11
<7> I've got a Solaris 10 from about 12 months ago...
<0> Viking667: I already have sol10 images, which I burnt before, but shall have to do again.
<7> yo! Liandrin!
<7> whyzzyrd: lol. how recent are they?
<7> I'm looking (now) for build 39/40
<0> Viking667: month or so. I can get newer ones if there are any
<10> I haven't figured out why yet, but I just slept for like 36 hours
<0> I'll snag the latest ones.
<0> Liandrin: touching the EHT in that sony will do that to you ;-P
<7> whyzzyrd: thanks, dude.
<10> whyzzyrd, touching 240 cured me of being careless with my hands, thanks
<0> Viking667: no problem
<0> Liandrin: 240's not that bad.
<7> whyzzyrd: and FGS, get a tracking number.
<0> Viking667: No ****.
<10> whyzzyrd, no, no it's not, but it served as one hell of a wake-up call on a slow morning
<0> Liandrin: that indeed, and it can be nasty enough if you've got rings/metal watch straps, etx.
<7> I hate brushing my hand against 240 or ht
<10> whyzzyrd, a friend has a scar on his arm from where a defective monitor shield let high current arc through the front of the screen and into a handy grounded metal case
<7> I've got a psu here with an exposed heatsink at 120VAC, it's eeeeeeeeeee nasty.
<11> hey what file contains the linux logon history....for example If i log into a server I want to be able to viewmy login time and the ip I logged in from
<0> ow.
<7> ouch! That's not nice. Hope the monitor was decommissioned the next hour.
<0> Liandrin: there's a fine melt on the edge of a panel in our UPS cabinet, where the engineer dropped it across the 440v's worth of lead-acid cells.
<10> whyzzyrd, oops!
<10> Viking667, we didn't have any spares at the time
<10> Viking667, it took it biting me before I got mad enough
<7> ah.
<0> Liandrin: that's one cabinet *I* keep my hands well away from. 400+V DC is killing juice
<7> Pity, that.
<10> whyzzyrd, did I tell you about the APC SmartUPS 2200 RM we "hacked"?
<0> Liandrin: nope
<10> whyzzyrd, we took the back off it and "extended" the battery bus to a collection of appropriately-wired 12 V car batteries
<10> whyzzyrd, with 1-gauge cable ;)
<0> Liandrin: ahh, my boss has one of them in his garage, but it's a 5k one.
<0> The cables are well n heavy.
<10> whyzzyrd, it extended the runtime, alright, but we never did get the poor thing to calibrate properly after that
<0> Liandrin: problem is, if you bottom the batteries, it'll blow the charging circuit trying to lift them.
<0> Liandrin: you have to put the batteries on charged.
<7> ow.
<10> whyzzyrd, I'll never forget the look on the electrician's face at our new California employer when we unpacked that monstrosity and he said "You want me to WHAT with that now?"
<0> Liandrin: "wire it in, of course"
<10> whyzzyrd, we never let it drain very far, and the charging circuit didn't seem to have a problem with it
<10> of course, I should point out that the first course of action, in the event of a power failure, at this employer was to go around switching all the lab UPSes off
<12> little stuff :)
<10> I never quite figured out what the point of having them in the first place was if they were just going to turn them off immediately right when they're needed the most
<10> anyway, $electrician was happy to hook our UPS up, after we un-voided the warranty
<10> he was even nice enough to tell us that we'd used way bigger wire than was necessary
<7> Time I went, anyhow.
<10> we figured "better safe than having an electrical fire"
<7> Guess I won't go back to this Solaris until this afternoon.
<10> Viking667, I dunno why you'd use it in the first place, never mind go *back* to it ;)
<0> Liandrin: keeps the voltage drop down.
<10> whyzzyrd, oh yeah, I think I remember hearing him say something to that effect
<7> Liandrin: I'm testing, hush.
<10> whyzzyrd, he refused to even watch us open it up and unhook our modifications
<10> whyzzyrd, we probably broke all sorts of rules ;)
<0> Liandrin: I expect so, but there's not much one can do at LV.
<0> We're just working on getting a 200kVA UPS and generator set.
<10> oooh
<10> what do you need 200 kVA for? =)
<0> machine room
<12> whyzzyrd: I just finished installing a 225
<0> kosmo: cool. How many racks of stuff have you on it?
<0> kosmo: and can you tell me the square meterage of your machine room?
<12> whyzzyrd: no idea. I know I have 81kVa being pulled out of it right now.
<12> whyzzyrd: uh, no idea again. Id have to go count tiles.
<0> kosmo: they're suprisingly inexpensive
<12> whyzzyrd: I can also tell you we now have 50 tons of AC.
<0> kosmo: no bother.
<0> unfortunately, we don't measure A/C in tons.
<0> We measure it in kW
<12> whyzzyrd: bah
<12> whyzzyrd: 1 ton = 12,000 BTU
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