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<0> Steakk: (specific, requested, enhancements to the initial spec)
<1> rhowe, wouldnt that fall under Changes/Modifications ?
<0> Steakk: Hm.. you might want to distinguish between minor tweaks and new features
<2> Steakk: Get into hosting/reselling and sell an SLA :) That's such a huge money maker.
<1> Falchion, which is why I have a sub-catagory :)
<2> huh?
<0> hm.. pretty soon I'm going to be wanting a new desktop
<1> Falchion, IE: I am making distinguishing points to all those (changes/mods/enhancements)
<2> Steakk: Whats that have to do with an SLA?
<1> SLA?
<1> I didnt see that line, i was goin up to what you previously said...OH, rhowe said that, nvm :P
<2> Service Level Agreement. get into hosting and sell SLAs. SLA's are basically insurance. It's free money basically.
<1> I doubt I am going to get into hosting...cant afford bandwith, or the co-lo servers
<1> (yet)
<2> Steakk: Resell.
<0> Steakk: Yeah, resell. There are so many companies who will let you rebadge their service
<2> Steakk: http://www.wildwestdomains.com/gdshop/default.asp?location=www%2Ewildwestdomains%2Ecom%2Fdefault%2Easpx
<1> Yeah, but when they know they can get great features for a cheap price elsewhere (IE: 1and1 is who all my clients request), why pay the higher fees? ya know?
<0> Falchion: That just looks totally XSS-able to me
<3> I hate when I press ctrl+alt+backspace accidently in gnome :(
<0> Falchion: I always shudder when I see URLs embedded in URLs
<0> yoz: Configure X to ignore the key sequence then :)
<2> I agree
<4> it's now only mildly disgusting
<3> rhowe: I sometimes need it though ;)
<2> Steakk: Check out Wildwest hosting. It's godaddy's reseller site.
<1> I am checkin it now, kinda, heh
<3> Steakk: you better check http://yoznet.com ;)
<1> I dont think I could do that though, as it would be a Conflict of Interest with the other company that I do consulting work for....they offer reselling services (overpriced, so i dont recommend them to clients :))
<2> Steakk: OK, we'll do it in MY name then :)
<1> LoL
<1> i walked right into that one
<1> the ONLY thing I dislike about 1and1 is their email services...when you login, its a random sequence of numbers/letters then a -USERNAME@domain
<1> it ****s tellin my cleints how to log in...so, i am debating finding a different company to host the email for me
<2> Steakk: they do email hosting... :)
<1> Falchion, hah
<1> I'll just give them all gmail accounts, and be done w/it :P
<2> Steakk: haha
<3> lol
<1> and ***ess a $40 setup fee
<2> Steakk: Let me ask you this: If _I_ did reselling, would you recommend it to yoru clients? You'd get a kickback, of course. heh
<1> Falchion, I would have to see what you offer, and for what prices
<1> then, yes
<5> you need girls with big breasteses like godaddy
<1> Godaddy for hosting? I ****in think not
<1> Godaddy is good for domain purchasing, thats it. I wont use them for email, hosting, or anythign else
<2> Ms GoDaddy is ugly.
<3> 8)
<5> my wifes domain is through them, it's not bad for $3/month or whatever she pays
<1> I get steakk.com hosted for free via 1and1 and a clients account :)
<6> "today we offer our special WIYNALYYAUL Service level."
<1> $client told me to host it there, since I needed webspace
<4> Falchion: I say you should start offering dirt-cheap colocation to your friends ;)
<1> WIYNALYYAUL ?
<7> WIYNALYYAUL?
<1> i am afraid to ask
<6> "We Ignore You Now And Let You Yell At Us Later"
<1> LOL
<7> Revie: haha
<5> hey is this channel UTF-8 now?
<5> .....
<1> TenBaseT, thats sounds like its an astounding -ENO_ANSWER_SUPPLIED
<8> hasn't it been UTF-8 for quite some time?
<9> hello
<10> HellRazorDV: this channel is closed for maintenance. please come back later.
<9> ok just wanted 2 ask one question
<2> Steakk: For 1 email address, with POP3 ande 25mb, how about $20/year?
<8> Falchion: lol
<2> :)
<2> K_F: We have to negotiate!
<8> in which case you'r driving something called positional bargaining
<8> you should look into interest focused bargening as you'd consider him friendly
<2> heh
<8> positional bargaining is mostly for hostile negotiations
<2> K_F: This isn't HIS cost.
<10> Falchion prefers bendover bargaining
<8> rofl
<2> Ka-bar: hell yeah!
<11> O_o
<1> 1 email addy? most of my clients have 50+
<2> Steakk: OK, $40 for 100.
<8> Steakk: did you get my pmsg?
<2> You can get $5 back and I get $6. Works out :)
<2> Actully, its much cheaper. I looked at the wrong thing.
<1> how about 1000 email addys, 50 gb space, 2 domains, 500gb traffice, supporting PHP4/5, CGI, 20 MySQL dbs at 100megs each, for $4.99/month
<2> Steakk: Nah, I don't like you THAT much :)
<1> well, until that can be beat, thats what I currently have
<2> Yes, and you dislike them, as well you shoudl since 1and1 **** :P
<1> the only thing i hate about them is that the connection ****s
<1> and their Control panel ****s too
<2> gee, minor issue, being a web host and all :P
<1> lol
<1> but, its cheap...so clients are willing to pay the lower price, for an extra .5 second resolve time, and 3 second loading time
<1> extra 3 secnd loading time*
<2> Steakk: bah
<3> O_o
<1> Falchion, but hey, I have 20 1and1 hosts set up in SmartFTP, and I'd hate to have to go switch them all to another hose, heh
<1> host*
<2> :P
<1> and switchin hosts is a pain in the *** anyway, espicially for a site that is already live
<2> Steakk: Nah, you just put new clients on the new system
<1> yoz, ya like that, eh? :P
<3> *nod* =P
<1> "there is no spoon"
<1> yoz, then you will really like: www.steakk.com/compliant.html :)
<1> and it took me like 4 hours to do that w3c compliant page, heh
<1> I know I am going to get flamed for this question, but a client just called..wanting to know if PHP-Nuke has the ability to do SSL and sales stuff....Does PHP-Nuke have an E-Commerce branch?
<12> aloha
<2> Steakk: Amazing what google returns for "phpnuke ecommerce"
<1> bah, didnt have FF open :P
<2> heh
<5> jesus I just went to hook up a PDU to the wall and found out that the electricians put in the wrong circuits.
<5> I got 2x 20A @250V and I need 2x 30A @250v
<13> TenBaseT: rofl
<3> Steakk: hahah
<5> ****. it'll be another 2 weeks before I get my gear up
<1> yoz, hehe
<13> TenBaseT: you ought to see some of the stuff our Mistakes & Blunders department does.
<13> TenBaseT: do you really use all of the 30A?
<6> like hooking up AC on a DC outlet ? :P
<5> I'll probably be getting close, but it's redundant power.
<13> Revie: like hooking some "protected" circuits to the raw mains instead of the UPS?
<5> the rack is about half full, I guess.
<10> some dimit somewhere is missing a 'w'
<6> whyzzyrd: heh.
<13> TenBaseT: we have 42U racks on 2x16's
<13> TenBaseT: and some on 4x16's.
<5> but the twistlock power plugs for 30A arent compatible with the 20A jacks
<5> so I've got to call the electricians anyway
<13> TenBaseT: HP's new racks take 4x32..
<5> Their racks have like 6 different PDUs you can buy
<13> TenBaseT: this can't be in your house?
<5> No, this is for work
<13> TenBaseT: then get the bungholios back tomorrow.
<14> hello
<13> TenBaseT: you ask for 2x30, you get 2x20, you yell.
<5> yeah
<14> whats the command to chk the version of distro
<4> ah, there
<5> hopefully they wont make the building engineer sign off on it again
<4> finally the bloody hole is plugged
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