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<0> ~/o Another visitor. Stay a while... stay... FOREVER! o/~
<1> even if modules are up and running
<2> Viking667: *grin*
<1> ThomasM: I know dongles are wire...but it doesn work on my linux box at all -.- even if module is ok
<3> Lem0nCeltic: Take a moment. Organize your thoughts. Ask the question again. You have yet to make sense.
<1> sigh
<4> Lem0nCeltic, wireless stuff, especially Broadcom chipsets, are a bit rough to make fully operational on linux
<5> Lem0nCeltic, please go to http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and pay careful attention to the suggestions there. It'll improve your chances of getting a useful answer.
<1> ok friends, thanks very much
<4> If you got Ubuntu, maybe I can help a bit, I succeded doing it on my laptop
<3> Lem0nCeltic: Want me to take a stab at interpreting your question without all the extra, confusing bits? "How do I get a WiFi USB stick to work with linux?" To which, we reply either "What WiFi USB stick?" And then, you say...
<0> Hi ThomasM
<3> Howdy Viking667
<0> What did you think of "Who Killed Johnny?"?
<6> hello men
<6> hello ***y men



<3> Viking667: I had to leave off on page 17 of 22 (will probably finish up tonight), but it's looking good.
<1> ZyDAS ZD1211 chip
<0> damn. That counts me out.
<0> be aware the last chapters are a bit rough.
<3> Viking667: I do like how you go straight into the work without explaining all the different bits, but you might work on clueing the reader in a bit better. The only other complaint is that you _really_ need to work on paragraph structure for dialog. It's good dialog (except that everybody pretty much has the same voice)--but it needs broken up so the reader can follow who's saying what.
<3> Viking667: On the characters having the same voice count, that'll work itself out in the edits, once you think your characters are real.
<0> lol. That's the sort of stuff I was after.
<0> Oh. And I don't know how to structure dialog.
<3> Viking667: 99% of the time, the basic rule of giving each speaker their own paragraph works wonders.
<0> So what you got was the best that I know how.
<3> One paragraph should not include two people speaking except under special circumstances.
<0> ThomasM: err, my characters speak short sentences, as you probably picked up.
<3> Viking667: Even then.
<0> I would consider it if my chars spoke more than about ten words in a row, but .... they're Joe Workers...
<0> brb
<3> Don't worry about your paragraph lengths, especially when it's dialog.
<0> *sigh* - and I was getting sick of "he said ... she said ... I said ..."
<0> But the other option wasn't much better.
<3> Don't worry about that. Writers always do, but readers never read it.
<3> Think back to reading a book. Do you remember all the attributions past finding out who said it? And if you had a good idea who was speaking or could hear their voice, did you even bother to read the attribution?
<0> ThomasM: I do wonder about it sometimes. In "CRime and punishment" for example, there's attribution to some degree.
<0> But that's old writing.
<3> Viking667: If it's the same people speaking, you can skip the attributions, as well. If you're sure the reader knows who's speaking, you don't need them, especially in a back-and-forth conversation between two people.
<0> Two people wasn't my problem. I was more worrying about when they're ALL discussing things initially...
<3> There are special constructions for when a large group is speaking and you don't care who's actually saying the words. Usually used for mobs and such.
<0> But yeah, setup could be a problem. But I don't know how else to do it without an introduction. And I HATE those.
<3> Me, too. You do have a character that was new to all the things there, so you can use them as a foil for introductions on some things.
<0> hrm?
<3> Your main character is from a different culture. Their interactions with others can be used as a foil both for introducing the culture they came from and the one they entered.
<0> "Huh? Who?" "Well, it's like this - before you arrived, ....."
<0> Like that?
<0> Well, that's partially what the Shoeing In was supposed to be for, to "make" him a member of their society.
<0> So he's not a total noob.
<2> "life. the shoeing you deserve"
<2> Thats the first time Ive seen the word "shoeing" used. Viking667's remark being the second
<0> Jostein: oh yeah. You haven't read the book yet...
<2> nope
<3> Viking667: What say we take this to a /MSG, especially seeing as docfu's the only other one that knows what's going on, and he doesn't seem to be around.
<0> lol. Come on over to #whiskey
<7> Holy ****, I so want to kill our users. Grrrrrrrr People this stupid shouldn't be trying to run their own servers of any kind.
<8> 8)
<7> "Why won't this work?" "Because you're a retard."
<8> ahah
<7> "but this isn't working the way I think it should." "That's because your brain isn't working the way it should."
<7> Well, 2 more hours until I get to pretend I'm home :)
<4> I'd tend to say, if it don't work a certain way, stop, think, and try again, or try another way
<9> best tech support scenario:
<9> Customer: "hi there, my printer isn't working correclty"
<9> Tech: "Ok, go ahead and click on Start"
<2> Falchion: sounds like a nice day at work
<7> Jostein: s/nice/typical
<9> Customer: "Whoa whoa waddya think i'm Bill Gates or some ****?"
<2> Falchion: Hey. At least your users are smart enough to setup their own servers, even though incorrectly :P
<7> Comet: We started havign a wall of shame where we'd print off the best and post them up. But after awhile we decided there was no point. They're ALL idiots.
<9> hahahaha
<9> i like that idea
<10> Jostein, thats like saying 'at least your users can go into the toilet even though they **** in the bath'
<7> Jostein: When someone declares that there is a problem with our system because their MX record isn't letting them access their FTP, THEY ARE ****ING MORONS.



<10> how can an MX record not let them access their ftp?
<2> wishes: not quite, but you -are- onto something :P
<10> thats like for mail
<7> wishes: BTW, sorry I missed your msg the other day. Still interested int he ipod?
<10> yeah, how much
<7> wishes: No kidding. That's my point :P
<7> wishes: Make an offer.
<10> what currency are you in?
<10> its gen3 aye?
<7> wishes: I even have a nice radio transmitter mount for it.
<7> wishes: USD. And yeah it is. Has Firewire cable w/ power adapter.
<10> gen3 have arse batteries, i have one too and changed it :D
<7> No battery probs with this one. yet. heh
<10> i need one for my son though at school
<7> But with my nano, I haven't been using it really.
<10> so make me an offer :)
<11> Falchion: maybe they ahve a ftp-to-email gateway - used to be popular about 10 years ago
<11> ;)
<7> wishes: With or withour transmitter?
<10> i have no idea how much the conversion rate works out to be and whats normal for US
<7> killall-9: Heh F them :)
<10> transmitters only cost like $15NZ or so new, may as well be without
<7> wishes: $200? Make you a package deal if you wanna buy a modded PS2 for your son as well ;)
<10> hold, ill convert
<11> i used such a gateway - had adsl to the provider but only 32k on international
<7> wishes: OK, convert and we'll go from there
<10> though it seems a bit pricey - i paid that NZ for mine
<7> wishes: for a 20gb?
<10> yeah g3
<10> oh wow conversion isnt to bad atm :)
<10> thats $286 for me
<7> Wait, 3rd gen have buttons?
<10> it used to be 50c or something stupid
<10> yep
<7> This is just th wheel
<10> at the top
<7> Oh, mines a 4th
<10> hehe
<7> My old one was 3rd. silly me.
<10> ahh
<10> you have 2?
<7> I had 3. Sold my 15gb when i got my 20gb free. And my mom sent me a nano she won at her work.
<7> Oh, I had 4. Just gave my stepmom a mini someone gave me
<10> 20gb free?
<10> damn :D
<7> yeah. the freeipods.com site :)
<10> how about $150 US ?
<7> those ARE legit, BTW.
<10> oh i cant get em
<0> wow. that's what I've got in total on one hard disk...
<10> need a US address
<7> wishes: $150 + shipping? Hmm. Lemme think and I'll letcha know?
<10> i tried once before
<10> shipping is gonna be a killer lol
<0> yeah.
<7> wishes: Get a mailbox over here. Or use mine and i'll ship it to you when you complete the offers.
<10> really? :D
<7> wishes: heh I wanna see if I can sell the ipod and ps2 together to someone.
<2> I have 512MB on my cellphone though :P
<7> wishes: Sure. I'ev done it before.
<10> dont think you can use the address twice
<10> haha really?
<7> wishes: Nope, you can't, but I haven't done many using my current apartment.
<7> wishes: Yup. Had a lot of .ca friends who used my address so they could do it.
<8> Jostein: same here.. an mmc.
<10> just looking at prices here
<7> Then again, $7/month will get you a mailbox
<10> for second hand ones, working out conversion
<7> sure
<7> Dear god, our users are getting dumber and dumber today. heh
<10> hahaha
<10> if thats possible


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