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<0> siglite: reading ;)
<1> Comet_- it is..
<2> pilgrim: is this just a general computer problem?
<1> i mean ..this fujitsu detects both devices (if enabled) as hda
<1> and it sees only the cdrom
<1> i mean, it does not boot, unless i disable the cdrom
<1> err, not the cdrom, the entire IDE
<1> and then i have the s-ata drive as hda
<3> Pilgrim: please type faster.
<1> kosmo yea yea, you're funny :P
<3> Pilgrim: well, you definately arent funny. Please, type faster.
<2> so if you disable the entire ide, the sata is finally detected, and it boots from the sata drive as hda?
<1> the bios lacks of many things ...
<1> yeap
<1> the sata is detected anyway, just doesn't boot from it in linux, it starts and ends with a kernel panic, where hda is the CDROM
<2> sounds like a piece of ****
<4> Pilgrim: Have you tried disabling plug and play in the bios?
<1> reality does not have pnp options in bios
<1> some crapy bios, weard laptop
<4> Who makes the lappy?
<2> is it a WinBook?
<2> hah
<1> fujitsu siemens
<5> ugh
<1> on ide sata devices in bios i only have as "options" [auto] and [disabled] ... (some options, pphhh...)
<1> notghing configurable
<4> Pilgrim: Disable AHCI in the bios
<1> and when it boots, i see something like hda=DMA hdb=pio
<4> Pilgrim: And boot with DMA off
<1> reality it boots on linux if AHCI and IDE are both disabled
<4> dma=off
<1> if any is enabled it fails
<6> gatheree: I don't recall asking you to /msg me.
<1> Now ignoring ALL except CRAP and PUBLIC from *gathond@*.cybercity.dk
<1> he /msg-ed me also ..
<0> excuse me for not knowing
<4> gatheree: It's in the FAQ
<4> Ignorance is not an excuse
<7> http://www.getsafeonline.org/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=1179
<7> "Ideally you should run Microsoft Windows XP with Service Pack 2."
<1> reality the dma=off where ?
<0> yep, but we are not forced to know everything
<7> Ah yes, Windows XP with Service Pack 2. The safest OS in the world today
<1> i dont have that option in bios
<4> Pilgrim: That's a boot parameter
<3> rhowe: highly laughable. they were paid to say that.
<1> reality append type ..
<1> ?
<7> kosmo: Even better: "Windows 2000 is good"
<4> Pilgrim: Are you using lilo or grub?
<3> rhowe: *choke*
<1> lilo
<4> Pilgrim: linux dma=off
<3> rhowe: OS X
<1> and ahci disabled from bios ?
<4> Yep
<8> rhowe: I miss "get a gun" on their list ;)
<3> Pilgrim: now why in the world you would ignore Gathond is beyond me.
<6> gatheree: if you'd bothered to read our FAQ you wouldn't have been kicked. So no, I won't excuse you for not knowing. Excusing ignorance is not something we do around here.
<7> wlfshmn: This is the UK, not the US :)
<8> rhowe: tazer?
<0> ok, now let's try another angle: I don't believe that the site will give me my answer. I need to forward all traffic to a specific host through a specific interface,
<4> gatheree: netfilter.org
<0> wht i'm reading in the site only forwards ports
<1> reality same thing, unable to mount root fs on unknown-block ...the cdrom takes the hda
<4> gatheree: Nothing says you have to specify ports
<6> gatheree: not true. iptables does not require a port argument. If you omit the port, all traffic is forwarded.
<6> gatheree: forwarded/NATed
<0> but I still need all trafic to proceed as normal to the other interfaces
<4> Pilgrim: What's the exact model of the laptop?
<0> better explain: I have 3 interfaces: 1 in, 2 out
<1> reality fujitzu siemens e 8020d
<0> eth0: lan in; eth1: wan out; eth02 second lan
<0> I need all trafic to exit the network as normal through the router and through eth1, but the traffic directed to a specific host must leave through eth2
<0> iptables allows that?
<4> Pilgrim: What distro?
<9> gatheree: just set a route for that specific host over the gateway on eth2
<0> route add -g ??
<1> reality source based distro, sorcerer
<0> won't it mess up the other routings?
<4> Pilgrim: I see that people have put Fedora and Alt linux on there without issue
<1> reality i have windows
<1> too on it
<1> if i disable ahci and ide, the linux works great
<1> if i enable them both, the windows works great
<1> :)
<1> but that's not an opption
<0> Pilgrim: use a virtual machine, less trouble
<10> installing a new exhaust pipe on a scoot can be ****y.
<7> hm, looks like bugs.do.o is misbehaving
<7> s/do/d/
<10> d.o. ? ;)
<10> ah!
<10> rhowe: there are no bugs in debian anymore ;)
<7> Lion-O: The hell there isn't :)
<10> rhowe: if there were they wouldn't close down the bugs site ;)
<7> Lion-O: It's probably buggy :)
<11> There are no Bugs in Debian, just unexpected features.
<10> lol
<11> Its like there is no rape, just suprise ***.
<8> Falchion: precisly!
<0> please, any1 to answer my question? do I use iptables to configure or do I configure the route?
<10> gatheree: 1) Speak English. 2) Configure what ?
<10> cool
<12> where are you at, Ka-Bar?
<13> New Hampshire
<13> 8 to 10 inches of rain yesterday. lots of flooding. lots of roads and bridges out.
<12> ayup...it's god attacking Ted Kennedy :)
<14> haha
<13> dogbert2++
<12> well, it's true :)
<8> Ka-bar: And you still do the travel-thing every week?
<13> wlfshmn, yeah, 200 miles to $work in NY on Monday morning, stay there all week, then come home Friday afternoon. Except that things **** so bad around here right now that I'm staying home today.
<10> hmm. webapp b0rk on me.
<15> Meh
<15> Web apps ****
<10> PolarWolf: how did you manage that? I bet that I can make a lot of money that way ;)
<15> Lion-O: Just ask it nicely :)
<16> sorry if my client actually misbehaved, or did Pilgrim just ignore me becaure he misspelled?
<17> hello
<17> I need help
<10> lubea: Please goto http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html, and re-read your question again. Then try asking something which *does* make more sense.
<14> nick completion mistakes **** ;)
<16> yup, but at least I dont know this pilgrim character, so I'll just ***ume its his loss:)
<18> how can i put something in background ?
<7> SkReAcH-: Adjust focus
<18> i have a program & i wanna put him in background, when i exit from the root the program will continue tu run
<7> SkReAcH-: "the root"?
<15> Every time I see someone mentioning "my root", I feel shivers running up and down my spine
<19> 'sup hosers?
<15> Tamahome: Losers, idiots and morons. You?
<7> SkReAcH-: What's the program do? Sprinkle goodwill across the universe?
<19> PW: SSDD
<15> Tamahome: Ah, the usual.
<18> rhowe a cs server. :|
<7> SkReAcH-: You're running it as root?
<19> chinese food for lunch, so it's all good
<18> no,as user. But a friend of mine is the owner of that server :)
<7> SkReAcH-: Then ask that friend to set it up with an init script, etc
<19> SkReAcH: man nohup
<18> he doesn`t know :|
<19> CS is so popular, there has to be one already
<7> SkReAcH-: I knocked one up pretty quickly back when I ran an AHL server
<20> the difference is you had an idea what you were doing in the first place :)
<7> K_F: :)
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