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<0> reality, actually i torrent the isos, but i need to get some apps.
<1> OldMonk: He'd probably be missing some of the libraries
<1> A lot of the libraries
<0> torrented, even
<2> i don't think so
<1> JunkieXL: That defeats the purpose
<2> why?
<3> it's a prefferance
<1> Why me or why him?
<4> Hmm, I'm sure I used to have an USB memory stick around here somewhere
<1> JunkieXL: If you're going that route, you should probably use Gentoo
<0> JunkieXL, slackware?
<2> why him :)
<0> reality, is emerge on gentoo from source?



<3> im thinking of the good old redhat
<1> phatlip: Gentoo is all from source
<1> JunkieXL: Redhat personal doesn't exist anymore
<1> JunkieXL: It's been replaced by Fedora Core and it being an rpm based system, I wouldn't recommend compiling everything from source
<3> that's the point, since I am planning to compile everything by myself I don;t think it matters
<4> Oh, there it is
<1> JunkieXL: That's completely pointless
<3> ic
<0> so anyone' college/uni have a suse mirror i could borrow for a minute or two?
<1> phatlip: Only on I2
<3> is debian providing support for older versions?
<0> on I2?
<1> JunkieXL: The reason package management came into existence is to get away from having to compile everything from source.
<1> phatlip: Internet2
<0> will i get better than 150kbs?
<1> phatlip: Unless you're connected to Internet2, you can't even access it
<0> oh, right.
<0> internet2, like ipv6/http2 ?
<1> No, like the education/governmental institution priviledged internet
<0> meh, so much for net neutrality.
<5> sweet.. finally no segfault.. but dspam doesn't check mails anymore so seems.
<1> phatlip: This has nothing to do with net neutrality
<1> phatlip: It's for institutes to transfer large amounts of data between each other
<1> http://www.internet2.edu/
<1> The lan speed record for I2 is 6.96 gigabits per second in the IPv6 category and 7.21 gigabits per second over IPv4
<6> ... i don't even have a gigabit nic.
<6> how the hell do you get 7gb
<0> decent, wonder if any aussie ISPs are going to offer those kind of speeds anytime soon.
<0> </sarcasm>
<7> and in about 15 i guess you'll be leaving to take a ****.
<8> nah. i have a laptop
<7> thats just fantastic
<8> :)
<7> maybe I'll do that then.
<2> fredk_: *ping*
<8> hm. a new e-bill from verizon. wonder if they figured out how to parse negative balances yet
<7> oh ****. my vz bill...
<7> they stopped accepting CCs so now i've got to find another payment method.
<8> i do e-checks from my bank
<8> that is, if i actually owe them money, which i certainly don't yet
<8> the fun part is, what did they *say* i owe them
<7> okay then.
<8> nope. they owe me $70, but thats not what the bill says. nice.
<4> yoz: *prod*
<4> yoz: http://www.linuxops.net/~pw/hardware/
<8> ey pw
<4> OxD: Ey
<4> Pictures of my dual opteron box and the fiber array: http://www.linuxops.net/~pw/hardware/
<4> For those who care.
<2> PolarWolf: hold on...
<8> PolarWolf: dual core or dual cpu?
<2> PolarWolf: http://shanta.linuxops.net/~raju/cgi-bin/photo/index.cgi?mode=view&album=/PolarWolf/DualOpteron
<0> download.suse.org keeps giving 403 errors while trying to update...
<0> i should write novell
<2> ... or your ISP
<0> oh, working again



<0> OldMonk, my ISP?
<2> yeah, tell him to fix his transparent proxy
<9> oldmonk, pw, oxd
<2> darkelf_
<9> 9v, reality, yoz
<8> heya darkelf_
<4> OldMonk: Eheh, cool
<4> OldMonk: I couldn't be arsed putting the stuff in a gallery, so..
<4> OxD: Dual CPU
<4> *burp*
<2> PolarWolf: mkdir ~raju/public_html/photo/PolarWolf/foo ; chmod 777 ...foo ; copy files there ; chmod 666 files...
<2> welcome to add stuff (but not gn00d photos of me)
<4> OldMonk: Hmm, hmm. 'k
<4> OldMonk: I got a gallery, but not for that stuff
<2> my gallery's completely eclectic :)
<2> or is it catholic?
<10> OldMonk: alcoholic?
<8> PolarWolf: ah. nice
<2> oh god he's tripping again!
<2> Lion-O: yeah, that's good
<8> PolarWolf: i just bought me a dual core opteron box
<8> parts are en route
<4> OxD: Dualcore are too expensive for me, especially if I have to fill two sockets :P
<4> OxD: These are secondhand 240's
<7> OxD: 165?
<8> D-side: bingo
<8> D-side: rockin dual 19" widescreens too :P
<8> PolarWolf: it came down to this being cheaper than a roughly equivilent speed/cache X2
<8> by like $200
<4> OxD: *nod*
<7> OxD: and they oc like a bastard with proper cooling
<4> OxD: The memory was expensive though
<7> OxD: a buddy of mine is doing that right now.
<8> D-side: so i've heard
<8> though i usually don't mess with OC. power here is insanely expensive and i like my **** to *not* crash
<7> can't blame you there.
<7> its fast enough i'm sure.
<7> i've got a 3800+ X2 here, and its great.
<8> exactly. what's another 400mhz on top of something like that
<8> not worth the "hm. why'd it crash" factor when, say, trying a new kernel
<9> oldmonk: Wrong, and I dislike that type of ***umption.
<2> darkelf_: ok
<11> PolarWolf: Where's the redundant fibre loop, eh? :)
<2> rhowe
<11> re OM
<4> rhowe: Dun have any. And I got a dead disk in the array too :/
<4> rhowe: Send me one of your spares :)
<11> PolarWolf: And, come to think of it, where's your tripod? Some of those shots are awful :P
<8> PolarWolf: bad admin. baaaad
<11> PolarWolf: I haven't got any FC disks
<4> rhowe: Yeah, well, tripod is on the wishlist. You'll have to do with these :P
<11> PolarWolf: IDE, SCA and SCSI, but not FC
<4> rhowe: Bleh
<8> i'm way too cheap to build a fiber array
<4> rhowe: You be useless :)
<11> PolarWolf: You need some decent carpet/lino too :P
<11> PolarWolf: That orange stuff is awful :)
<8> been pondering building out a terrabyte or two array and exporting iscsi targets though
<4> OxD: I dunno, HBAs are cheap on eBay, disks are decent. You gotta find a backplane though, which is ~$100
<8> gotta love the poor man's san
<4> rhowe: Any more remarks and criticism?
<4> rhowe: I'm putting in laminate over the summer :)
<4> And getting a new desk
<11> PolarWolf: Hmm.. aren't SC connectors rather unused in modern kit?
<4> rhowe: Depends. I have some copper too.
<4> rhowe: 2 and 4gb is all fiber
<4> They do use smaller connectors though
<4> And yeah, this is old kit, hence it comes cheap :)
<11> PolarWolf: What chipset in the HBA?
<4> rhowe: This one is an Emulex lp7000
<4> rhowe: I actually got this thing when I bought the Alpha


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