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<0> all girls have tissues in their bags
<1> i am different :o)
<2> sure you are...
<1> i have scissors
<1> will that do?:o)
<0> wtf you need scissors for?
<0> stab the poor (guy?)
<1> to cut hanging parts in case of defence (ears per se)
<1> laters
<1> :o)
<0> lol
<2> rofl
<3> What is the first thing to do when DHCP is not working? Sent numerous DHCPDISCOVER without getting any DHCPOFFERS back. Of course the cables are in place, and the router is a perfectly new XAVi X7722r+ router/adsl2+ modem...
<4> enable DHCP?
<3> PolarWolf: That's done in the client. But the router... Can't access it so how can I enable it? I have resetted the router as I believe DHCP is on as default...
<2> ?
<4> Try the web interface it should come with
<3> Can't access it
<3> It's a catch 22
<0> config your ip manually
<4> I.e. grab the manual, see what network it defaults to, manually set an IP address in said network, etc
<4> Oh, and make sure you're plugged into a LAN port, not WAN
<0> default ip range is either 10.x 192.168.0.x or 192.168.1.x
<0> what polarwolf said too
<3> fredk: True. I have not tried 10.x yet, only the other two
<0> motin, what router is it?
<3> XAVi X7722r+
<4> Alternatively, watch the network traffic with tcpdump, some routers spew out a couple of broadcasts
<0> never heard of :)
<4> If it's new it came with a manual.
<3> PolarWolf: tcpdump is for Windows?
<4> motin: sure
<0> ethereal for windows
<4> It's call windump, but it's the same thing
<4> Or ethereal, yeah
<3> PolarWolf, nope. No manual. Internet service provider has had it shipped without...
<4> motin: Bitch at them
<0> motin, your obviously online :) google :)
<3> tried ethereal but got only cryptic stuff
<3> cant really read ethereal output
<4> you don't need the packet's content, just its header
<4> Especially the source address
<3> found a maual at least: http://xavisupport.guideband.net/X7722r+/
<3> PolarWolf, true.
<3> Ill check the output again
<3> Is netmask always 255.255.255.0 ?
<4> "The default local ethernet IP address is "192.168.1.1". See chapter 2, commandline interface, for more details."
<3> PolarWolf, thats great
<4> motin: For that network, usually. But it doesn't really matter
<3> have to connect with modem as of now, the manual is only 38% finished yet :/
<3> PolarWolf, then whats the netmask for? Always wondered...
<4> motin: To carve up big blocks into little blocks.
<3> Short and cryptic answer :)
<3> but that'll do
<3> Ill look it up later
<4> The netmask isn't used in communication between hosts, it only indicates what the hosts will recognise as being on "their" network
<4> It's not that exciting.
<3> Aight
<4> motin: commanline interface is apparently run through hyperterm
<3> I've configured many networks but always left it at it's default.
<4> motin: that's usually fine
<0> hmm brb
<3> But now... The machines (one linux and one windows) are set up to a manual ip adress of 192.168.1.100 rep 192.168.1.101, with default gateway of 192.168.1.1, default netmask... But they can't ping each other or 192.168.1.1 . I have to different routers of the same model and the result is the same with either one...
<3> that is:
<3> But now... The machines (one linux and one windows) are set up to a manual ip adress of 192.168.1.100 rep 192.168.1.101, with default gateway of 192.168.1.1, default netmask... But they can't ping each other or 192.168.1.1 . I have two different routers of the same model and the result is the same with either one...
<3> two...
<4> motin: check cabling
<4> Seriously
<3> they both annonce "network cable is plugged in"
<4> That's nice, but not helpful
<3> and all the pretty diodes are shining
<4> Or ther routers are b0rk. Do you have a hub or switch?
<4> And do make sure everything is connected to the LAN ports
<3> Not here no...
<3> Yup, they are
<3> And no firewalls are enabled
<3> Hey...
<3> Is there any way to ping mac addresses?
<4> Not that I know of
<3> Or maybe manually ***igning mac addresses to ips?
<4> Does tcpdump notice any traffic on the wire when you start pinging>
<3> thereal does yes
<3> ethereal
<3> ping always returns: From 192.168.1.100: Destination host unreachable
<3> ethereal sees a lot of ARP packets
<3> the packets are all: Source Wistron_d9:ec:df Destination: Broadcast Protocal: ARP Info: Who has 192.168.1.1? Tell 192.168.1.100
<3> hmm..
<3> I come nowhere
<3> I come somewhere....
<3> DHCP Server: Disable
<3> Thats default for the router
<3> But how do one turn it on then?
<2> just use another DHCP server to give it an IP
<2> and it is pretty much standard..
<3> The network setup is simply Two machines and a router with disabled dhcp
<2> and?
<3> Where should I find the second DHCP server?
<2> not _that_ hard to configure onoe
<2> one*
<5> how hard can it be to turn on DHCP on the router?
<2> Jostein: you have to connect to the router first though :)
<3> Jostein, When it cant be pinged? extreme...
<5> heh
<2> if it doesn't come with a static IP you want to ***ign an IP to it
<2> so for crying out loud just do so
<2> you're in #linux, I expect you to be able to configure a DHCP server
<3> K_F: ... please tell me how
<2> RTFM
<5> motin: in short: no
<5> motin: less short: no ****ing way
<3> Ok I'll just read up upon it. Just recently switched to linux
<3> And I do not have a win2k3 server machine nearby
<2> ?
<2> what the heck does that have to do with anything
<5> not that I see the relevance :P
<3> It's easy: I do not know enough about configuring a dhcp server to be able to express a relevant comment on the subject
<2> motin: tldp.lorg
<2> motin: tldp.org
<3> Yup
<3> I'll be back with some dhcp knowledge
<3> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DHCP/x369.html
<3> Jostein, care to share?
<5> what IP range you want to ***ign and the proper subnetmask
<3> I know those two
<3> That doesnt help me
<3> More basic knowledge is needed
<5> like what?
<5> isn't that howto pretty straight forward?
<5> anyway, my main server is 2003 server. I havent done DHCP in linux before :P
<3> Jostein, well, how are the cables supposed to be connected? Will it work if the cables are stuck into the router as now, even though the linux machine will be the dhcp server?
<2> I like the ISC DHCPd
<5> motin: that depends on how the router is configured, but Id guess "yes"
<3> Default IP Address WAN and ADSL
<3> Ethernet (local) IP: 192.168.1.1 Local Line Code: Multi Mode
<3> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 DHCP Server: Disable
<3> Protocol DNS Relay: Disable
<3> RFC1483 Bridge: VPI/VCI: 8/35
<3> Cl*** (QoS): UBR
<3> picky flooding-rules...
<2> in which case why don't you just connect to 192.168.1.1 ?
<2> huh
<3> thats how it is configured
<3> K_F: 192.168.1.1 is unreachable
<2> you did something wrong then..
<5> motin: if you have configured the linux box to be on the same subnet, you seriously need to check your cabling
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