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<0> not to mention Im waaay boozed on bowmore already :P
<1> Jostein: if you say that you must be needing lots more
<2> Jostein: did you get drunk alone?
<0> zdenis: My thorat is killing me. Im having agressive coughing to the point of throwing up
<2> cool
<0> zdenis: I need -something- to kill this damn thorat and cough
<2> get a video!!!
<0> zdenis: no
<2> :(
<3> OM
<4> hi all
<2> dude...
<4> hi sjh
<0> Hmmm. I evidently have linux freaks visiting my page. how scary :P
<3> even though people say it is a necessary cultural (though appalingly bad) reference
<0> sjh: any particular reason except the movie ****s?
<1> OldMonk: hiya
<2> sjh: dont do it man... dont do it. you have so much to live for.
<3> zdenis, I have held out so far I think I can manage a few more decades
<1> .w sjh
<1> hahah
<4> whitecap
<5> HI i have 2 if devices 192.168.32.2 and 192.168.0.92 i wanna route between them, whats the proper route command to do this
<0> route?
<0> or is that BSD only?
<5> my failed attemnpt:
<5> route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.92
<1> route (8) - show / manipulate the IP routing table
<0> DarkDrgn2k: that fails for obvious reasons
<5> Jostein: hence my request for help, wat am i missing
<0> DarkDrgn2k: you may want to indicate just WHAT subnets you want to make a route between
<5> 192.168.32.0/255.255.255.0 and 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0
<0> DarkDrgn2k: but you aint telling that. not even ****ing close
<4> sjh: you want to see a movie that rated 4.6 on imdb, where even star wars gets 8?
<5> Jostein: yes its been a while since i did that .. what am i missing
<0> DarkDrgn2k: the subnets?
<5> Jostein: i wanna route trafic from 192.168.32.0 over to 0.0
<0> DarkDrgn2k: YES. then WHY on earth arent you telling route -just- that?
<5> Jostein: how would i do that?
<0> you just said how
<0> except you did it in the explenation, not the route command
<5> Jostein: what are the arguments
<1> hahah
<6> hmm
<6> anyone else getting m***ive lag?
<7> who wants to advise me on choosing the optimal / most used / best linux dist
<8> antispicks: Everyone if you pay enough
<7> lol :)
<9> antispicks: those three criteria might not choose the same distro
<7> but if i want do get the best ? need to be friendly user interface heh, coming from win$ux, so need to get used to it before i jump into a cmd based dist
<9> antispicks: I would choose ubunto, but others might choose diffrently
<7> that's also the most hit'd in ranking on distrowatch, thanks
<7> wlfshmn - is the alternate install an advanced version of the server install ? http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/ubuntu-cd/6.06/
<9> antispicks: I have no idea.
<9> antispicks: I'm a Debian user myself, since I don't care much for a fancy UI
<7> i need good UI in the beginning :
<8> wlfshmn: The page explains it very nicely
<9> Pizbit: I expect it does. I have just never read it ;)
<8> wlfshmn: I double checked, if they can't read and understand, they should give up now.
<8> "The desktop CD allows you to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later."
<8> Yep, wonder if that's the one to download.
<9> I have been considering getting myself a drive to try ubuntu on..
<8> wlfshmn: I like how you can boot into the live environment, and then install it from there
<10> I have tryed the live-cd and the install-cd. The GUI is ok, a sand theme for desktop, the functionality is limited, but it works fine, adn the major advantage is that ubuntu have all the package avalaible like debian like netinstall.
<10> adn/and*
<10> the su- based from debian may not be easyer for a first time linux user, but will prevent him to make `strange` things or even to damage the installation.
<10> I think ubuntu is a good first step to debian ... :)
<11> Atleast it's not as frustrating as fedora and centos were
<9> I've gotten into the habbit of recommending ubuntu to the graphical crowd
<9> if I was to install a linux workstation myself though, I would still use Debian...
<12> Coma: centos was a peace of cake here.
<9> but then again, I expect and like little problems ,)
<12> s/peace/piece/
<11> Clone: I didn't say it was difficult, it was just annoying
<12> heh, i dont share that sentiment ;)
<11> And even debian's getting a little too fancy
<12> hehe, bsd zealots would kill you where you stand making that comparison.
<11> bsd zealots can shut the **** up
<9> I'm a pragmatic Debian user ;)
<12> ~\o an overdose of happiness...
<11> Clone: Get one of those typing tutor appps
<11> Hmm
<11> Haha, install tuxtype!
<13> aah
<12> Coma: ugh, i tried them once and found out my way of typing is completely and utterly flawed.
<13> what a day
<11> Clone: No, really, tuxtype will help
<12> Package tuxtype has no installation candidate
<0> if bruteforcing the account oracle doesnt work, the oracle2!
<9> Jostein: The hoards are knocking at your door, are they?
<0> too mant freakin IPs to bother to report any
<11> Heh, a distributed bruteforce?
<9> aha! the data persistance works as it shoudl
<10> Jostein it is well know an bruteforcer for all the well known users, and there are more than half of the system runing oracle with easyer to guess p***words. The use of strong p***word advice it is ignored by many of the so called `admin`. And yes, there is another excaladation local exploit for the usual oracle user uid. I think it was a generic bruteforcer based on aist of known users and known p***words, the kiddies doesn't bother to write g
<10> an/a
<0> Coma: nah. just a bunch of stupid zombies/compromised accounts trying to bruteforce everything between root and accounts named "oracle", "oracle2", "taxi"(!), "posgtgre", "courier" and so on
<9> It's scary the amount of customers we visit and find using our as well as oracle's default p***words
<10> wlfshmn even bad thing, there are many systems with u:oracle p:oracle scheme...
<0> ow
<0> they sorta -deserve- to be "hacked"
<0> Im not really scared of any of these attacks. I am however scared that there are so many zombies out there
<0> why the hell cant people keep their boxes secure?
<0> is it -that- hard?
<10> Jostein yes, and then they call you in the middle of the night, asking you to reinstall server or give the money back. They don' t realise those 2 parts: install and administration of a linux server. They pay for install and not for administration, and no cent plus for configure:) they deserver this , yeah.
<9> Jostein: I wonder what the win98 support deprecation will result in..
<11> Jostein: You'd almost like for microsoft to force updates onto its users
<0> heh
<10> Jostein speak with a sales manager about hardening a linux server, adn he will blow up you with clasical words "I don't need hardening"
<9> Jostein: maybe the machines will get mutilated to the point that their owners get something newer ;)
<0> the worst admins I know are the ones who claim they are secure simply because they are running linux...
<0> thats like saying you cant drive of a cliff because you are driving a tank. some people need a beating
<10> Jostein this is a good proof of low experienced admins. They claim linux is free, and yes, again, they leave free the doors:) if everubody can use linux the real cool thing will be : everybody can use the server [but everyone]:)
<0> LalalAlalaLALalALala
<11> My ears! My ears!
<8> Jostein: SHUT UP!
<8> Silence is louder anyway
<0> molotow
<14> :P
<8> ....
<8> Jostein: Want another try to get it right?
<0> Pizbit: dont complain. its free cocktails :P
<8> Jostein: I don't drink alcohol.
<11> Ohh, pretty!
<8> Jostein: So I'll go with being burned alive.
<0> heh
<15> hi all
<15> need help, I run a fedora 5, how to add this at the boot: ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full autoneg off
<13> illani: normally you wouldn't need to. But look into the /etc/init.d directory for a local file. RTFM comes to mind here.
<10> illani you can add that line to rc.local file as a new entry on a new line. that is. that file is unde rc.d on fedora. read more anyway.
<16> say
<16> when someone says "p***word is hashed" , what does he mean by the word hash?
<11> dweller: Ran through a (one way) hashing function
<17> dweller: like man md5
<10> dweller it's not plain, it's encrypted using one algorithm, in a sigle way and usually you can not decrypt it.
<10> the p***word() function used by mysql encription scheme is also used for /etc/shadow. Even if an attacker will gain access to your mysql/user.* he can not know your p***word, because is hashed/encrypted.
<11> Though by today's standards, crypt() is considered to be cryptographically weak and should be avoided :P
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