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<0> wlfshmn: I dunno. They're only testing missisles which isn't covered in any international act.
<0> wlfshmn: They are IMO doing a nice job showing that the US wants to butt into everything, even when asked not to.
<1> he's running around yelling "damn lebanese! you teah dow my ****ty wah! I get swee sowah powk!"
<2> siglite: shortly followed by Terminator 5: Sarah Connor's Bat Mitzvah
<1> hahahah
<0> wlfshmn: this whole thing might hurt the US' reputation more than some people want to realize, especially in Asian regions.
<1> hey, speaking of terra, has anyone taken responsibility for that **** in india?
<3> I guess OM would know
<4> who cares?
<4> must be some hindus trying to make as if the muslims are terrorising and make political capital out of it
<1> wow
<1> OldMonk: really now
<1> OldMonk: you're a cynic? surely not
<1> this article's just rife with stupidity....
<1> http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A5A917D4-76E6-46F6-A92B-7250249FD172.htm
<5> Lion-O: I don't think so. Japan is seriously concerned, obiovusly, and I expect South Korea to be firmly on the US's, if not Japan's, side
<5> Lion-O: China is negotiating, so they are likely somewhat worried, although not militarily, they probably just don't want NK to cause the US to m*** near China ;)
<0> wlfshmn: Japan is also trying hard to become less dependend on the US for situations like these, also through official channels. They want to take care of their own homeland security, and both Japan and SKorea want to rely on negotiations.
<5> Lion-O: Everyone wants to rely on negotiations. The US include.d
<0> wlfshmn: for example; both countries already stated that shooting down NK' rockets would be a bad thing to do, even though it was exactly what the US was planning to do. There's quite some friction here and there.
<0> wlfshmn: euh, no. The US started by bringing warships into position to "track down the terrorists^D^D^D^Dmissiles" and when there would be long ranged projectiles to shoot them down. It didn't happen, but it was planned.
<5> Lion-O: Until NK actually commits an hostile act, or do something stupid like actually parade a nuke around, it will remain a negotiation issue
<6> wlfshmn: one of the missiles that NK fired recently was supposedly aimed to land near hawaii. That's one of the ones that malfunctioned. If they fire another one, and it lands anywhere near hawaii, I think we'd be totally justified in taking out their launch capabilities to prevent them from doing it again.
<0> wlfshmn: and there is also the issue regarding sanctions. This is from the back of my mind, but iirc the US started getting more sanctions going against NK while both SK as well as Japan and China opposed it. That plan also didn't work because no international treates were violated.
<4> er, not if it lands in international waters
<5> Ka-bar: Oh, I agree.
<5> Ka-bar: That feels less like testing a new design, and more like adjusting your aim ;)
<4> wlfshmn: i don't agree
<4> if an airborne object launched by someone doesn't land in your territory you don't have any right to whine about it
<5> Lion-O: From what I hear this time around, Japan is arguing -for- sanctions
<6> If NK was really crazy/stupid enough to attack the US, hawaii, home of the US pacific fleet, would be a very likely first target.
<5> Lion-O: Sanctions, mind, is a political tool, so they are part of negotiations
<6> Yes, and sanctions are soooooo effective. Just ask Saddam. </sarcasm>
<5> OldMonk: If it was aimed at you, I agrue that you do.
<4> wlfshmn: if you could prove it, sure
<1> OldMonk: not really true. it's difficult to determine the direction of a launched intercontinental missle right after launch. It takes a while. Depending on the range to target it can take too long to react. Launching missiles anywhere in the world is a bad idea because of that.
<5> OldMonk: If you wave a knife in my face, I'm going to hurt you, even if you havn't stabbed me yet ;)
<0> Ka-bar: they were, Saddam didn't have wmd's.
<6> Lion-O: yes, he did
<5> OldMonk: It's a pretty long straight line to draw between hawaii and north korea...
<0> Ka-bar: and ofcourse the population also suffered majorly.
<0> Ka-bar: rofl
<1> OldMonk: when nuke-capable countries are going to launch rockets of any kind, they tend to notify other nuke capable countries (in .us via the state dept.) so that people don't interpret it incorrectly.
<4> siglite: er, pak keeps launching missiles for testing all the time, i don't hear anyone complaining
<0> Ka-bar: Even after the Bush administration and official people admit themselves that there were no WMD's you still cling onto that issue? ;)
<4> but pak's special
<1> OldMonk: they're not long-range
<1> OldMonk: the world almost ended in 1998 because of a norwegian test rocket
<4> they're long-range enough to hit new delhi
<5> OldMonk: And they make the missiles land off the beach in Goa? ;)
<4> wlfshmn: yeah, precisely the spot you wanted to go swimming
<7> OldMonk: Who cares, as long as they don't reach US soil it's not important
<6> Lion-O: Sigh. Haven't seen the recently decl***ified reports that US forces found about 500 chemical warheads with sarin and mustard?
<4> PolarWolf: oh
<1> OldMonk: the launch notification didn't reach the kremlin. They activated the whole goddamned soviet nuclear arsenal because it looked like a rocket fired from a sub in the north atlantic when it came up on thier tac-nets.
<0> Ka-bar: uh huh :P
<6> Of course, not, because the NY Times spiked the story.
<7> Ka-bar: The unusable ones, you mean?
<4> Ka-bar: bwaahaahaa!
<7> Unlike common belief, those things have an expiration date
<6> PolarWolf: unusable in whose opinion?
<6> OldMonk: what's so funny?
<0> Ka-bar: anyway, believe what you want to believe. As if the news broadcasting in the US is anywhere near reliable.
<5> Ka-bar: We saw that report. We also saw the report that the army itself came to the conclusion that the warheads were from the timeperiod prior to the first gulf war, and were unusable due to aging
<1> OldMonk: the russian PM had the football open and nearly transmitted the launch codes. Launching missiles anywhere is touchy ****.
<4> i find it funny that someone actually found usable wmd's in iraq
<8> ok not to drag this thing into a second day..but wth is the solution to 15
<9> so, I am at my fathers today, and introduce hin to google earth....he was quite impressed...so, I trun google earth on, on my cell phone(blackberry)...he was just as (if not more) impressed, but he looks at me and says: "how do you ever manage to get laid?"
<1> Teakk: lol
<7> KASnurse: 14->15 or 15->16?
<8> code
<7> KASnurse: It's morse code
<8> yes im aware of that
<6> OldMonk: Just because we didn't find working nukes in Iraq does not mean that they did not have WMD. It only means that we didn't find them, or they got moved.
<5> Ka-bar: If they had found a modern useable warhead, I'm sure we would have heard it bawled out as front page news to justifiy the initial invasion ;)
<8> know what it says
<8> cant figure out what it wants
<9> Why do people have issues with that one?
<4> Ka-bar: er, yeah, sure, whatever you say
<7> KASnurse: So construct "sixteen" in morse code in a similar format
<10> Hello guys!!
<6> wlfshmn: No, because the mainstream media here in the US hates Bush and will never, ever, EVER admit that they were wrong and he was right and they'd just bury the story.
<0> Ka-bar: and ofcourse bigfoot also exists. The forrests are just soo big its more obvious not to see him so he exists :P
<7> KASnurse: make sure you make it a full code, and then add ".html" to it
<5> Ka-bar: I said -we- would hear it ;)
<5> Ka-bar: -we- don't listen to FOX ;)
<7> Ka-bar: I don't think it's much a secret that Saddam had at one point in time chemical warheads
<7> ****, he actually used them, too
<8> ok that was stupid
<9> oh, I am making more of those number puzzle things...up to #32 ...wanna get up to #40 done
<0> aaah, nothing like some good political fights, geekish puzzle solving and all we need now are some lamers ;)
<10> Im trying to setup failover with 2 ADSL WAN connections, any ideas? is there a script for that on the net? daemon.. something?
<9> here is one
<5> PolarWolf: Most certainly wasn't. It's well known that france sold them their nuclear capability, germany sold them their chemical capability, and not to be left out, the US provided biological capability ;)
<0> sOngUss: doubtfull. You're probably better of writing something up yourself, should be pretty trivial.
<7> wlfshmn: Luckily that crap expires :)
<6> sOngUss: there are routers and other sorts of appliances on the market which will do that sort of thing for you.
<7> Hmm, what to do today
<7> Nothing on the tube
<5> PolarWolf: Yeah, the biologicals probably dies off rather quickly, the chemical is a bit easier to keep alive, and to replace, and even found use. the nuclear got bombed to smithereens by the Israeli ;)
<0> PolarWolf: Alien resurrection :)
<8> thanks
<5> PolarWolf: so yeah, if they -did- find something in Iraq, it would be chemical, or a dirty bomb made out of old smoke detectors ;)
<7> Lion-O: Hmm, Alien 3 isn't resurrection, is it?
<7> Lion-O: It's the one on the prison planet
<7> wlfshmn: Aye
<10> ok thanks
<10> ill post my script somewhere after i finish
<7> Oh well, the point is moot anyway. Bush barged in, made a mess and now we're stuck with it.
<0> PolarWolf: aye.
<5> PolarWolf: aye. Only the raving loons shout for immidiate and unconditinal withdrawals ;)
<0> PolarWolf: I thought they already did that one.
<11> heya, god a problem with my fglrx driver:
<11> [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 432 MBytes.
<0> bolsh: Why don't you check out http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ? Maybe you'll learn how to ask more meaningful questions...
<11> Lion-O: okay
<11> Lion-O: did you understand that the second line was a followup from the first?
<0> bolsh: if you think that only some (error?) message is enough to describe any problems you may have you haven't visited the link I pointed out. Or you simply didn't bother to read it. OR you truly don't understand what it says in which case you're better off sticking to Windows.
<11> well, I installed the ati drivers, and when trying to insmod the kernel module i get "permission denied". yes, I am root, when doing dmesg this is what i get: [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_stub_register failed
<11> there is not anything more...
<12> getting 'permission denied' as root seems pretty foobar
<11> I guess either me or ati fscked up
<12> wait hrm... don't modules need execute permission?
<11> I think I have a conflict with a function i build into the kernel
<12> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25504 Jan 16 2003 aty128fb.o
<12> hrm, guess not
<11> I'll remove the direct rendering manager support in the kernel and see if that conflics
<12> if not, there's probably a way to make insmod more verbose about what's going on
<11> I'll try a reboot with the new kernel first
<8> lol can i ask for a hint again? :d
<8> from 18->19
<8> at the redirect
<7> KASnurse: Consider what makes you get redirected
<8> hmm lol
<7> And how to prevent it
<8> ok will try to figure it out
<8> tyvm :D
<13> I want to setup a raid-5. I have 6 500gb drives and an adaptec 2820sa raid controller w/ a dual xeon 3ghz machine. Now.. I know I can't boot from a raid5, so what would I need to setup from the raid controller so linux could boot or what would I need to do?
<7> Chr1z: That array controller should be bootable
<0> you should be perfectly capable to boot from a raid.
<11> for those who care, removing the kernels drm support fixed my problem loading the fglrx module,
<13> Lion-O: If I have the raid controller create a raid5 I can boot (linux sees it as one huge drive) -- is that how I should do it?
<7> bolsh: Hmm, that sounds familiar. Isn't that in the readme?
<11> PolarWolf: not the readme I read
<11> but I'm sure it's somewhere
<7> Chr1z: Basically
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