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<0> and that 9/11 would've been a very different day if concealed carry were allowed aboard commercial flights. <1> reality: hand grenade on a plane is a straw man argument. <2> atompngn: It very well might be <0> but it is banned on commercial flights. And 9/11 is what we get for trusting govt for our personal security. <2> I don't agree with the circumstances of citizens being able to carry guns at all times <0> s/for/with/ <3> reality...I sometimes carry two concealed weapons in public <4> db2 <4> reality ;) <0> me too. Sometimes I carry my wife's little backup pistol as well as my main carry piece. <0> her 2nd amendment rights are trampled upon every day. <0> she has to go to school. <3> if i'm gonna shoot at the range, I usually take the .40, 9mm, .44 automag, and .50 caliber <5> i less than three my .40 S&W. <3> well, the .44 automag is fun to shoot :) <2> siglite: If you feel your rights are being violated, why not bring it to the courts to decide?
<5> dogbert2: no doubt. :) <0> reality: it's been brought to the courts. The courts have sided with the idiots that trust the government with thier personal security. Imagine that, judges trusting govt. with thier security.... <5> reality: people have been trying it for years. <3> well, the AMT Automag V is also fun to shoot <0> reality: and it will be brought before the courts again. Eventually. <6> holy ****, my webpage is actually HTML 4.01 according to w3c ... thats never happened before <2> siglite: Then like other **** in this society, you'll just have to live with it <6> ya know, i find it funny when you run yahoo or google through w3c, and it has 400 errors <2> That or start a petition <0> reality: exactly. And the fact that all the money's in penis pills is something you'll just have to live with. <2> siglite: All of the corporate money is <2> siglite: Not the money I receive <0> I think you said something the other night about research grants being repeatedly slashed. <2> siglite: People are still always going to die from cancer <2> siglite: Other people's money. Not necessarily mine <0> where the money is, is where the research is. <0> typically. <2> To a certain extent. <2> They want a human element to it. <0> I'm saying that generally, because I'm sure you know much more than I specifically about this subject. <0> it's all about ROI. <2> But that doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of say herpatologists out there getting funded <2> The overall problem in my field is lack of funds overall <2> Lack of suitable funds to train people, lack of funds for new research grants, continuing grant schedule has changed, and the focus on bioterrorism <2> Focus on bioterrorism is just another way of saying, "Give more money to defense" <2> Which the majority of the scientific community finds as bunk <2> It's pointless to fund things like ricin research <2> There's not a whole lot that can be done about it once it's carried out <7> i'm running debian linux with xfree86, kde and tightvncserver installed, I was having no problems starting desktops with kde running, now I vnc connect to the box and it just shows me a blank xserver desktop with no window manager... what the hell could have happened ? <2> But in terms of my overall funding, sure, I took a pay cut the past couple of years. But that was what, $21,000+/- a year for the past couple of years in order to bring on more people. <2> That's not a huge loss <7> heh <7> for an individual <7> i'd say it is <7> for a company i'd say not <8> Aren't guns banned on airplanes because blowing out a window could take the plane down? <0> NDPTAL85: no <0> NDPTAL85: that's a myth <8> So a sudden loss of cabin pressure wouldn't bring down the plane? <0> nope <8> Alrighty. <9> NDPTAL85: Guns are banned because a gun on a plane is a bad idea. Period. <0> why's it worse of an idea than a gun anywhere else? <2> xenreborn: You didn't setup your vnc startup script correctly <2> What's in it? <2> If you're not calling a window manager or DE in it, then it's not configured correctly <9> siglite: Because people can't run at 30k feet. <0> you couldn't run in a crowded elevator either. <0> and you can't outrun a ****ing bullet anywhere <0> so that's kinda silly <9> siglite: You're being silly. <0> Falchion: if plan A is to try and outrun a bullet, I'd start working on plan B. Call me silly if you like. <9> siglite: That's not the point and you know it. <0> it's an invalid point. <9> You can't outrun a bullet but you don't have to stand still. <0> there are thousands of situations in every day life where running isn't an option. <9> siglite: No it's not. A gun on a plane is a bad idea. If you can't see that then you must have worn a helmet to school. <9> siglite: But you can't control most of them. You CAN control bringing a gun onto a plane.
<0> I don't see it. And you can go **** yourself in the *** with a cactus. <2> Ouch <9> siglite: You don't need to. You're still wrong whether you can see it or not :P <0> Falchion: you're wrong. Whether you can see it or not. <0> an aircraft is no different than dozens of other public situations. <9> siglite: Nope. I'm not, you are, plain and simple. <9> siglite: Whatever. <0> if you think you can escape a crowded restaurant before I shoot you, you're deluded. <0> I'll be glad to prove it if you're willing to sign a waiver. Any time. <10> NDPTAL85: I think a sudden loss of cabin pressure will cause altitude sickness and ultimately hypoxia, doesn't necessarily will bring down the aircraft but it will kill some if not most p***engers. <9> siglite: You're being a putz AND you're still wrong. Keep talking if you want but I won't be listening. <0> lol <0> so, I take it that means you can't refute my point? <0> and are unwilling to sign the waiver? <0> hahah <2> The waiver thing doesn't hold up in court, by the way <2> Still can't kill them even if they sign a waiver <2> Or shoot them <0> it probably wouldn't. But he wouldn't sign it anyway, because he'd be on the floor shot before he got two steps. <0> he's just mad because his argument doesn't hold water <4> re sig ;) <0> re <4> siglite: how goes? <0> goes ok <11> w00t <2> This is retarded. For a new fellowship, I'm required to take a biostatistics course <4> siglite: excellent. how's the connectivity? <4> Jeremy <0> functional <4> siglite: super <2> Even though I've had 3 biostatistics courses already <11> hey keith, eric <0> hey <4> jlgaddis: how's the bike? <11> same as it was <11> i posted a couple pictures, but you can't really tell much. and i haven't gotten a pic of the side i laid it down on <0> so go take one <11> i haven't even stood it back up <0> so go stand it back up and take a picture <11> they dumped it off the flatbed wrecker at the end of my driveway and that's still where it's at <0> will it roll? <11> i think the insurance people are coming tomorrow so i'm not gonna touch it until they get here <0> ah <11> i doubt it, forks are kinda ****ed <11> http://www.jeremygaddis.com/, two pics are at the top <11> you can see the front end somewhat <11> what pisses me off is i just spent $400 last friday to have new tires put on <12> siglite: moop. <11> well, one other thing that pisses me off <0> wow <0> the forkes are ****ed. <13> jlgaddis, take a riding course before you ride again <0> your front tire's in your exhaust. <11> lechat: excuse me? <12> jlgaddis: jesus h christ dude. <12> jlgaddis: you alright? <11> lechat: do you happen to know the details of what happened? <11> kosmo: yeah <14> what does the h stand for? <14> his middle name? is it herbert? <13> No; but a riding course will reduce the chance on any type of future incudent <0> what h? <12> siglite: the H in Jesus H Christ on a Popsicle Stick. <0> ohhhhhhhhh <0> kanodogg: harry. <12> jlgaddis: glad to hear youre ok <11> lechat: i think i did the best thing i could've given the circumstances. since you don't know the circumstances, how about you either 1) read further down and learn them, and/or 2) shut the hell up? <12> jlgaddis: actually, lechat is not a moron, but he obviously doesnt know you... fyi and all. <11> kosmo: and he doesn't know the details of my crash, so he should find them out before he tells me i need to take a riding course <0> jlgaddis: it's not bad advice. Poorly timed, but it's good advice anyway. <12> jlgaddis: *nods* thats true too... he is a very seasoned rider though. <13> I tell every one that, especially those who never have had one <11> perhaps instead he should tell the 16 yr old kid with a <1 day old car not to pull out in front of people
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