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<0> silly monkeys.
<1> *sigh*
<2> *burp*
<3> *yawn*
<4> *p0it! nArf*
<5> fun thing is that there actually is a PTR record ***ociated to that IP.
<1> oh?
<1> It's not a CNAME - oh, hanng on, that's going in the other direction.
<5> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
<5> 9.151.43.84.in-addr.arpa. 86217 IN PTR cable-84-43-151-9.mnet.bg.
<5> Oh well, we'll see what this turns up.
<2> maildir maildir goodie goodie goodie
<6> I've got an mbox file and I want to slit the messages into two files, acording to a given criteria..
<5> with a little luck some kiddie is about to lose his root.
<6> can I use procmail to do that?
<5> raxx7: I'd use mutt.
<2> raxx7: maildir? maildir!
<6> Lion-O: I want something I can put in a bash script
<6> Cynic: :)
<5> raxx7: hmm, mutt should be able to do that as well but in that case I guess mailx might be a better approach.
<3> Cynic: *grin*
<6> thanks Lion-O
<2> raxx7: if it's an mbox can't you just split the messages with perl? it's just a big text file
<3> Cynic: nonono. file formats are magic things
<5> Cynic: I think that would be a little harder since its not merely a few lines of text, its related text.
<6> Cynic: I was hoping maildrop or procmail would do it for me? :)
<3> Im pretty sure procmail can do lots of stuff too
<5> I know, Java can do it!
<3> havent tried it on existing mbox files though
<2> Lion-O: true... it has a common delimiter at the start of each message though..
<2> mb2md works on existing mboxes ;)
<5> Cynic: aah, yeah. That would make things more easy
<3> Cynic: which can easilily be confused if mails are forwarded :P
<5> Cynic: so, what about your maildirs? Any new developments?
<2> heh
<3> ok. its past midnight
<3> I should get some sleep
<3> Ill leave Cynic, his maildirs and the rest of you alone :P
<2> g'night Jostein
<3> after I reconfigure internal DNS :P
<3> **** internal DNS. I want sleep
<3> later
<4> my ip is actual.
<5> Jostein: night!
<7> snez_: unfortunately your IP rides on the short bus
<4> rofl
<8> lol
<9> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1958355,00.asp This is why we need global warming, to kill off a large portion of the human population
<9> Microsoft actually starts implementing user account priveledges and enforcing them across the OS and people are crying about how they can't effect the entire system as regular users anymore
<10> safemode: That certainly pisses me off at work
<9> i like the last comment "The analyst said he was surprised to see that the new SafeDocs backup program shipped with Vista can only be run by IT administrators, not end users." Holy ****, they didn't let regular users who could be infected with viruses and running malicious programs to backup the system. What the **** is microsoft thinking?!
<10> Every few weeks some **** from IT comes in and changes the administrator p***word
<9> programs that regularly require administrator access by end users is either broken, or not being used properly. I properly setup system should not require the users to ever need administrator privs.
<9> I properly/a properly
<11> LUA is a good thing.
<4> almost as frustrating as irc
<8> Lion-O? Are you there?
<9> If microsoft wanted to be smart, they should chroot each user login and have symlinked in the entire system into that user's chroot environment. Then, anything that is written to "system dirs" is only written to that user's system dirs ....not affecting anyone else or the system.
<7> Tamahome: don't worry, a couple of weeks after it's out,t he system will be broken through :)
<5> CeruleanD: hmm?
<11> libolt: not likely.
<8> You said yesterday that you prefer SunONE over Apache... I was just wondering: why?
<9> people will just turn it off or run as admin all the time
<9> especially since games require admin privs to access the hardware
<11> Ed: erm, I'm pretty sure DirectX changed that ages ago
<5> CeruleanD: Because it fills up a few gaps for me. For some reason Apache is doing weird stuff (or rather; I think PHP is) and since SunONE is in some options more robust and has a servlet engine onboard I plan to use it as a webserver/application server combination.
<11> LUA works *now*... I did in in 2K and XP... users are just too ****ed to bother
<5> CeruleanD: Its still in the testing phase but so far I really like what I see.
<8> hmmm
<9> again, if microsoft was smart, they would make admin privs and a "local group" privs separate, allowing a user with a logal group gid, to access certain hardware without configuration... but not able to alter system files
<8> I was going to try to push to get our web sites moved from Sun hardware/SunONE to Linux/Apache, but... probably better off since I've already proven my Linux admin abilities.
<8> At least with Sun we have a gold contract
<9> that way users wouldn't need to know they were just users... their games and programs would work without having to go into the admin account and set it up.
<12> hm, anyone got any experience with device-mapper multipath?
<9> I wish linux had such a setup even.... a difference between hardware access and system file access "root" account. During installation or when in the real root, you could offlimit certain devices ...with the rest able to be accessed by the users you grant as being "local" ...only when they are local.
<5> CeruleanD: IMO it depends on the Linux distribution. When looking at the ones who have adopted the 2.6 kernel I'd be a little sceptical about the robustness and risc factor. But 2.4.* should make an excellent server.
<12> safemode: Uh, you can do that
<9> not without setting up the /dev guid's manually
<12> safemode: It's not the default, but it can be done
<12> safemode: I mean, in Windows
<8> Lion-O: Yeah, that's a good point.
<9> and then setting my users to have that gid
<9> rhowe: then I dont see what these "experts and analysts" were ****ing complaining about on that article
<12> safemode: article?
<8> I think I'm ready to get out of the IT field though. I hosed our firewall (and backup firewall) for about 30 minutes today. Customers were screaming for my head, I could hear them on the phone calling for my soul by name.
<9> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1958355,00.asp
<5> eeew
<9> CeruleanD: you should kill yourself
<12> safemode: "Local Security Policy" in Windows allows you to give a user or group certain privileges
<9> or move to romania, since you managed to ****up not only the firewall but the backup too
<12> safemode: I had to do it to allow our CEO to use this memory stick reader - he needed "volume management" rights or it wouldn't work
<9> rhowe: I would rather do the opposite, blacklist certain devices as they appear mounted to the system ...and have anything else accessible to the users
<8> I was looking at the firewall at our Disaster Recovery in one window, and our production firewall in the other, trying to create a route from one system there to a system on our internal network, and I copied the DR config into a text file for safe keeping, then I went to copy one line from the production firewall config, but accidentally hit "paste", it was just a slip of the mouse finger...
<8> I pasted the entire config from the DR site into our production config, which completely hosed the firewall...
<9> rhowe: really there are very few devices you would care about not having the regular users have accessible.. like the hdd's storing the system files... kernel memory devices, maybe a couple other choice devices..but that's about it.
<8> So I ran into the server room to power it off, in hopes that it would just failover to the secondary... and it did, but not before syncing the borked config over first.
<11> priviledges model++
<9> rhowe: and the system would be aware if the user was logged in remotely or locally, so it would only grant those device privs if it was local ...
<12> By forcing users to constantly seek approval from administrators for doing stuff the features will just provide a market for another product
<12> One which approves things via a policy
<9> that's sort of what i'm talking about. . a policy set to give users device privs if they are locally logged in (except root blacklisted devices)
<9> if you're gonna give them the privs to access those devices anyway ...via ****ing up the admin/user separation ...then it's no less secure than my policy
<8> I wound up having to just clear the config entirely and copy in an old (4/24) config I'd made before. Took a total of 30 minutes, our customers were not happy.
<8> Yeah, shooting myself has gone through my head.
<9> Same thing with linux. I dont see why users aren't allowed to access hardware if they're logged in locally ...obviously (99.999%) if a user is logged in locally they're the only user logged in locally, so it's ok to give them hardware access, especially since they're gonna be getting it anyway via sudo'ing ...which is more dangerous
<9> linux makes no distinction between root privs for hardware access only , and root privs for system access outside of /dev ... Most users who need root privs only need it for access to devices, not to write to system files
<9> why open up that type of security hole
<9> you could totally whipe out the need for sudo and all it's dangerous security problems by just having the above policy on device access
<12> safemode: There is a pam module for that, IIRC
<9> that's my point of view anyway... I would much rather have my programs not have to ***ume root privs to access hardware .. that's just ****ing stupid
<9> rhowe: good luck tracking it down if you dont already know about it
<9> rhowe: it should be a choice during distro installation. i've yet to see such an option
<12> safemode: Send a patch ;)
<13> how do i monitor data being sent to a rs485 port under cli
<9> yea, i'm sure it'll be accepted. especially by distros like debian.. maybe in 20 years after 2 people arguing agaist it die in a plane crash and allow people to actually do what everyone else wants to be done
<11> I need a PIM... email clients just don't cut it
<14> Yeah - I need a PIM as well ... but outlook ****s with the email too much.
<14> I'm very tempted to go buy a Mac Mini and use Mail.app and Calendar.app though ...
<11> they both ****, take it from someone who's tried
<14> I preferred the Mac offering over Outlook - I do also only use imap with those apps, and have been known to revert to mutt on the server ...
<14> And let's not talk about 'entourage' ...
<11> I haven't tried Enotourage... actually I've never even used Office.X
<15> well, I'm still alive
<15> so, didn't crash
<14> That's actually a good thing (not using Office.X) ... it's still leaves a bad flavour in my mouth
<16> hello can someone help me witch info for vpn under linux???
<11> it's amazing considering Word was originally a Macintosh application
<14> Maybe they're too stuck in the microsoft/windows world?
<11> gee, I wonder? :P
<17> i'm still trying to decide whether to go on vacation to hawaii, or buy a Mac
<11> I used to be a Mac-lover, then I realized what a total ****wad Steve Jobs is
<14> Comet_-: You can get trips to hawaii that cheap?
<10> Comet_-: Desktop or laptop?
<14> Tamahome: I think ****wad is a little harsh ... (at the risk of sounding like his bum boy)
<17> neither really.. i was just joking around.. i'll probably never buy a Mac..
<10> Comet_-: Well, the OSX86 project is coming along nicely
<11> waznz: Apple has a history of treating developers like dirt
<17> reality: oh yea?? now thats something i'm interested in
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