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<0> Er, PATH
<1> jam3s: or more accurately, PATH
<2> later guys
<0> heh
<3> well, how do i do that
<4> jam3s: depends on the shell you're using...
<4> ***uming you're using bash, you've probably got a line somewhere in your shell startup script with a line that begins PATH=. . .
<5> Ka-bar: that's normally wrapped up in /etc somewhere
<6> jam3s: Are you using su - ?
<3> no i do this when i need to be admin: sudo bash
<6> jam3s: What distro?
<3> red hat linux fedora core 4
<6> So what are you running in /sbin as a user?
<7> how do i install redhat 5?
<6> gwarday: Fedora Core 5?
<7> its an old disc
<6> gwarday: You don't
<3> /sbin/servic
<6> gwarday: You install something made this decade
<7> i have an old laptop
<3> i am runnning it as root, but i dont log in as root with su, i use "sudo bash"
<6> gwarday: Doesn't matter
<4> redhat 5?!?!? That's like about 10 years old, isn't it?
<6> jam3s: Use su -
<3> /sbin/ is still not in the path when i log in as su
<6> jam3s: I didn't say su
<6> jam3s: I said su -
<5> jam3s: as in "su -" <=== that's a minus sign at the end
<3> what is the difference, i just logged off and re did it with the hyphen and it isnt working
<8> jam3s: the hyphen means start a login shell. it sets up the environment and your paths
<5> jam3s: the difference is that "su -" reads root's (or whomever's) startup scripts, whereas "su" on its' ow , doesn't.
<6> If it doesn't work with the hyphen, then that would indicate that logging in as root still wouldn't have /sbin in your path
<3> if i log into the machine as root it works
<3> but i disabled logging into the machine as root
<6> jam3s: Impossible
<8> jam3s: then just give the full path to it and be done with it
<5> yeah. So what happens when you do this: echo $PATH
<5> (once you've gone "su -")
<4> Oh, ffs. . . export PATH=/sbin:$PATH
<3> /usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/james/bin
<6> Ka-bar: That'll only stick for the current session
<4> reality: yeah, I know, but maybe it will get him to stop bitching about having to type in the full pathname
<3> Ka-bar: thanks
<3> is that permanently changed now?
<4> no
<6> jam3s: Nope
<3> :-(
<8> just use /sbin/whatever, or fix your /root/.bash_profile (or whatever shell you are using to update your PATH
<4> only for this session. to make it permanent, add it to your shell startup file (wherever it may be)
<6> jam3s: echo "export PATH=/sbin:$PATH" >> ~/.bashrc
<3> reality: what does that do
<3> make it permanent ?
<3> i already edited the .bash_profile
<6> jam3s: It'll make it permanent
<3> ah i see thanks
<8>
<6> Bah
<6> He's not paying for the help
<9> identifying this bonsai tree i have is getting annoyingly hard despite all the pictures online... nobody seems to want to give any pictures closeup of a leaf cluster
<10> RelDrgn: its more l33t to escape the $ anyway ;)
<6> I think I should put OSX on here tonight
<11> Wanna see my web page ?
<10> rSn: no thanks.
<5> no
<11> :P
<11> it is very coool
<5> wanna eat ..... hrmm, what IS GlamFing made of?
<10> reality: on the Apple or x86 platform ?
<6> Lion-O: x86
<3> whats the difference between /etc/rc.d/init.d/ and /etc/init.d/
<10> jam3s: probably a symlink.
<6> Lion-O: I'm Appleless now that my ibook took another ****
<5> jam3s: they're only directories
<5> Lion-O: cool. Now can I stab him if he comes back?
<11> :(
<10> reality: *nod*. Could be interesting, didn't realize they had an x86 version yet but it was to be expected.
<3> see, this box didnt come with named on it, but i installed it and set it up a while ago... but when i reboot the machine i have to manually start it... i want to make it auto start
<10> jam3s: what distribution?
<6> Lion-O: It's not an Apple release
<11> I have a question ? :]
<10> reality: don't tell me they opensourced it? ;)
<5> naah. It's been "hacked"
<3> red hat linux fedora core 4
<6> Lion-O: Nope... osx86project.org
<12> Lion-O: they 0p3ns0urc3d it :P
<10> jam3s: then I find it strange that you have 2 init.d directories, but that could be a leftover from RH I suppose. Alas; both should be the same. One a directory, the other a symlink pointing to the directory.
<10> szymon: hehe
<3> actually yeah its a symlink i think but,.. how do i set up the computer to start named when it boots?
<6> jam3s: man chkconfig
<10> jam3s: read up on the rc.d booting system in the fedora docs. Basicly... what reality said :)
<3> k thanks
<13> morning jokers
<10> eya Cynic
<13> yo Lion-O
<5> hi Cynic - that wasn't you being interviewed on Holmes, was it?
<3> okay i made adjustments, does and the server defaults to to level3 on boot... does this look good?
<3> named 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off
<13> Viking667: nope... what was the interview?
<3> ignore "does"
<13> (if i was on Holmes, the things I'd say about him would guarantee they would never air it :P)
<5> Cynic: some guy doing poker and won a million.
<13> Viking667: oh, nice. Nah, i woulda let you know if I was winning that much ;) I'm on about NZ$300/week on average from part-time playing.
<13> right now all I can think of is how awesome it's going to be moving our mail system from sendmail+mbox to postfix+maildir
<13> 21st century, here I come!
<14> back.
<10> D-side: re
<5> lol. Got some dip on #freebsd suggesting the telnet protocol should be rewritten to support forwarding, a la http
<11> I have a question pls
<5> bugger off.
<11> Can somebody tell me Is it possible to change the numbers in my host to words without asking my ISP
<10> nope.
<5> rSn: you need to pay your ISP to actually GIVE a ****.
<10> Reverse-lookups can only be done by the party owning the actual IP.
<11> my ip is actual
<15> hi everybody
<16> it is actual lol
<16> hi
<14> well it COULD be delegated to the other ***igned party
<14> but it rarely happens.
<13> o/~ she's actual size but she seems much bigger to me... o/~
<10> D-side: true, but then its still not something you can decide on on your own 8)
<15> if you are interrested you can join #windev for discussing about it
<5> bah.
<5> hm. Bot
<5> better ban it.
<11> so it is impossible ?
<11> isn't it
<11> Viking667 why you want to bann me ?
<5> Who said I wanted to ban you? Grow a clue. There's a reason why the ISP maintains the naming rights to the IP - it's because you haven't paid them money to do otherwise. And that's the truth.
<11> well i want something like this : @looser.lamersland.com It is just an example
<11> And i don't think that the owner of this host paid to his ISP
<10> 'this host' ?
<10> oh, the whois says it all.
<10> lets see who really owns "this host"
<10> netname: MNETBG
<10> descr: MNET Internet provider
<10> descr: Varna 9000, Bulgaria
<0> Har, Bulgars!
<10> and I have this feeling this guy isn't in Bulgaria
<10> [rSn] is transfix@84.43.151.9 WMYLE h4x0r1ng 9r0up
<11> yes i'm from bg
<11> :>
<0> Ah ha
<14> silly monkeys.
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