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<0> Lion-O, http://www.ibas.com/ :)
<1> fredk: Ah you frenchie..
<2> irc for ubuntu?
<2> help pls
<3> dydysoft: stfw
<0> dydysoft, "man telnet"
<4> heh
<2> ok
<5> fredk: the pings are too damn annoying
<0> K_F, :)
<0> "During analysis the customer should have results within 7 hours, although large amounts of data and/or low temperatures may affect this time. At express service level an additional fixed fee is added to the analysis cost."
<6> actually, I deal with a computer forensic team for the local PD, and they are able to recover overwritten data with software quite offten, they just put away a guy for child porno recently..
<7> kickit2: there is a difference between overwritten data and file slack.
<4> kickit2: Recovering a few pictures is trivial
<0> so, he didnt delete it properly :)
<6> your right that sometimes they have so send the drive to like ontrack or such, but most often, its not required.
<4> kickit2: Recovering an entire damn disc that's been overwritten is a whole other task
<7> kickit2: your police department isn't getting **** from a zero-p*** overwritten drive.
<5> siglite: really?
<7> kickit2: you have no ****ing clue what you're talking about. so STFU.
<5> I'd run it a couple of p***es anyways, and a couple of strong magnets..
<7> K_F: yeah. Very very few agencies are equipped to retrieve data from a zero-p*** overwritten media.
<7> K_F: and it's extraordinarily time consuming.
<5> siglite: if they want to they get a 3rd party to do so
<8> siglite: what's zero-p***?
<5> and then there is the whole bad blocks issue
<9> to argue on irc is like bringing buckets of water back to the sea
<0> use "experteraser" and then "ibas degausser", and the ones recovering should have something to keep them busy for a while :)
<7> K_F: well, not the feds, they can hop in queue at the FBI center where they do hardware recovery
<9> come on people :)
<5> that has been discussed in here a couple of time
<9> grow up
<5> siglite: in Norway they'd give it to the company fredk mentioned... IBAS
<3> dutchcow: if you don't like it you know where the door is.
<7> it gets into some pretty heavy physics
<1> dutchcow: start complaining that everyone is a hitler of some kind..
<9> Lion-O: jeez, take it easy man, its hot enough anyways
<0> K_F, I hear alot of international companies use IBAS as well
<5> fredk: yeah, they are good
<7> prometheus_: kickit2 here was telling us how he can recover data after a low-level format
<7> prometheus_: meaning "set all bits to zero"
<8> siglite: uh huh
<7> prometheus_: I'm calling bull****.
<7> come to think of it, I haven't called bull**** properly yet.
<3> lol
<4> Grrrr...why the **** is mysql denying me remote access to this database?
<7> reality: because you're not allowed to access it?
<8> *cough*postgresql*cough*
<3> reality: doesn't pick up the % perhaps ? or, if you used 'update database' you may have to flush the privileges.
<4> prometheus_: ::cough:: mythtv uses mysql ::cough::
<4> Lion-O: Already flushed
<8> seems like more and more stuff is using mysql exclusively nowadays
<7> prometheus_: it's the "microsoft JET DB" for linux.
<8> personally i think they should use adodb or whatever the **** it's called so that you can use whatever db you want on the backend
<7> actually...
<7> that might be the one system component that m$ got correct. ADODB. genericizing datasources. that was a slick move.
<0> siglite, wouldnt you call SQLite as the linux's version of JET?
<7> and gods do the devlopers love it
<8> siglite: yeah
<7> fredk: not really. I call mysql "access for linux" even though it's infinitely superior to access
<0> siglite, hehe, i'd say sqlite is close to its workings though :)
<0> closer
<7> fredk: it's more because it's the quick and easy, but not necessarily most scaleable db everyone uses on linux
<1> OpenOffice Base rules them all!
<7> hmm
<0> siglite, yeah, these days you can cluster it and all though :)
<7> I don't have Base installed
<7> fredk: TBH, mysql isn't the first place I look when I think I need to scale into cluster land.
<7> If I'm going to need clustering, there's money involved. And if there's money involved, I'm lookin postres, oracle, mssql etc...
<8> mysql's replication is one-way only, correct?
<5> it fits my problem profile anyways, but use whatever you want ... not like all problames are homogenuous
<10> postgres doesn't do clustering, does it?
<0> prometheus_, there are ways to do full clustering on mysql
<7> OxD: dunno, probably not
<1> OxD: Who knows
<8> OxD: not natively, but you can, using shared storage do it
<10> fredk: well mysql clustering is lame as hell
<7> OxD: nine times out of ten, if I'm scaling up for clustering, it's going to be oracle or mssql anyway.
<5> prometheus_: sounds like a pain locking-wise
<0> Check out http://www.continuent.com/
<10> unless you go shared storage route, of course, but thats cheating
<8> K_F: dunno, never actually done it
<0> they offer clustering for mysql and postgres
<10> siglite: yeah, sadly. i hate oracle but its solid
<5> prometheus_: I wouldn't trust it myself..
<5> but thats just me..
<10> fredk: mysql clustering is memory based and ****s balls; believe me
<8> i was going to try to cluster postgresql a while back but ended up saying **** it
<7> OxD: I loathe oracle. Just absolutely hate it. But man, it just doesn't crash.
<0> OxD, look at continuent :)
<10> siglite: ayup
<7> well, it doesn't crash until the hacker drops all of your databases for you.
<10> siglite: crisco and oracle. i hate them but they still get my money
<10> somehow
<8> siglite: heh
<7> OxD: we've stopped spending much money with cisco. We've become a foundry shop.
<10> or your software raid-0 san array loses a disk
<10> seen that.
<0> siglite, how do you like foundry?
<7> anyone who's running a database on a raid0 SAN array deserves what they get.
<7> fredk: ****ing awesome
<10> siglite: we still do almost all cisco for endpoints and routing. bigIPs for load balancing and then mostly dell switchen
<8> OxD: who the hell runs anything important on raid0?
<10> my idiot client
<10> these folks are morons, obviously
<8> OxD: then, like sig said, they deserve what they get
<7> fredk: kicks cisco's *** on performance, comparable power and features, and sooo much better pricing.
<0> siglite, mmm, I've used extreme and that seems to work well also. Atleast for my needs :)
<7> fredk: the real challenge with foundry is social. Cisco's so entrenched, getting decision makers off the dime for foundry is hard. "no one ever got fired for buying cisco"
<10> siglite: haha
<10> thats so true
<10> siglite: dude did i tell you about the bug in PIX i ran across?
<7> heh, no
<11> i'm not so hot on the pix either.
<11> utterly overrated
<11> cisco weenies will argue that to the death
<7> they will
<0> how are juniper firewalls? anyone worked with them?
<7> dogbert2 will cry
<10> i set up this new box behind a pix. it has a web interface. most operations work except (after like 5 hours of strace, tcpdump, etc) if its a POST
<11> fredk: extensively.
<12> juniper is ok...
<11> fredk: i love them.
<10> if i change the exact same request to a GET, it works fine
<0> D-side, nice
<10> i sick our firewall guy on it. he comes back with a cisco TAC case a day later and a bug report about http_inspect nullrouting all POSTs
<7> OxD: wtf? the crisco is killing POST requests?
<13> hmm
<10> yeah. real bug in a few versions
<11> OxD: not surprising.
<12> OxD...just turn off http_inspect for now
<11> 6.x?
<10> my question is HOW THE **** DID THAT GET OUT OF QA??
<8> OxD: know the versions?
<10> lemme see
<7> OxD: god, that's ****. Just turn off the http ispect. Cisco's IDS features are a steaming pile of crap anyway.
<12> OxD...it happens...
<11> i gotta be honest, i'm shocked the TAC found it.
<10> siglite: thats what we did, but i find it hysterical
<12> D-side, i've found 6-10 things that TAC missed (hilarious)
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