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<0> I just ran apt-get upgrade
<1> Lion-O: in these studies there were quite a lot of people though
<0> synaptics touchpad
<2> K_F: Yeah. I'm not going to trust a street bum speaking authoritatively.
<1> Lion-O: a related studies is the stanford prison experiment
<1> ThomasM: hence the doctor setting at Yale
<3> K_F: and what kind of people did they use? volunteers? ;)
<3> K_F: its always a specific kind of people, therefor such studies are flawed to begin with IMO.
<1> Lion-O: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
<2> Lion-O: Hah. People that say "Okay" when some guy on the street says "Come take a survey."
<3> ThomasM: *nod*
<1> "The participants were men between the ages of 20 and 50, from all educational backgrounds, ranging from an elementary school dropout to participants with doctoral degrees.[1]"
<3> ThomasM: the same kind of people who'd start to complain thats its so hard to get rid of those survey guys because they're too persistant. IMO pretty stupid. Just ignore 'm and walk on.
<1> http://www.radford.edu/~jaspelme/gradsoc/obedience/Migram_Obedience.pdf
<3> K_F: and they got paid a nice sum whether they p***ed or not. Greed can be an influencial factor.
<1> Lion-O: 4.50 ..
<3> sure. So either you have people taking this not seriously (what kind of experiment is that?) or the kinds who think "I get a fun time and get paid") etc.
<3> the whole thing is flawed to some degree right from the start.
<1> to some extent.. that said, Milgram wasn't an idiot
<3> besides; the people /knew/ they were in on an experiment. Try ordering or persuaing them in a more natural environment.
<1> Lion-O: that is where the Standford prison experiment comes to play.. they didn't know
<4> any imagemagick experts here ?
<1> http://www.prisonexp.org/
<3> K_F: uh huh
<5> http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/10/D8MIN5CO0.html <= HAHAHAHAHA PWNED
<3> K_F: and there is the kind of people. For example; in the US you'll encounter much people who are going to their job and don't care about anything apart from doing whats on their tasklist. the famous "I wasn't hired for that". In Asia (say Japan) is another extreme opposite example.
<1> Lion-O: indeed so
<6> I have /media on SERVER shared via samba ...I have it mounted on WORKSTATAION using fstab...fstab entry: //SERVER/media /stuff smbfs username=....,p***word=..... 0 0 ... but when I try to write to that share as that user, i get perm errors
<6> any ideas?
<3> K_F: I don't question the study as a whole, but I do think its flawed :)
<1> Lion-O: not necessarily flawed, but not prone for generalization
<1> it gives insight into organizational psychology though
<1> and helps management-wise
<6> I have that same share mounted on my win32 box, and can R/W to it just fine
<0> why is my synaptics pointing device driver having a problem? I just upgraded debian
<2> Ka-bar: Nice.
<0> I cannot start x
<3> paperboy: upgraded from what to what?
<2> Steakk: You have username=,p***word=, but do you have uid=,gid=?
<1> Steakk: umode ?
<1> umask*
<0> Im not sure I havent turned the computer on in a few months
<2> paperboy: We're all just ignoring you. Perhaps you should try #linuxhelp
<6> K_F, no, because I want it to be able to be RW for any user logged into my system ... setting a usermask makes it so only that user can W to it
<6> iirc
<0> okay
<1> Steakk: not really
<6> umask=0?
<2> Steakk: Then set file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 or some such.
<1> Steakk: 000
<3> paperboy: you don't want to upgrade "just like that". This could be just about anything, sometimes things change and need reconfiguration. My guess is thats whats happening here.
<6> K_F, adding umask=000 to the options (its now username=...,p***word=....,umask=000), I get the same errors (yes, I did remount it)
<6> ThomasM, in the smb.conf, I have the 'create mask', and 'directory mask' both set to 0777
<2> Steakk: I'm talking about your fstab.
<6> ThomasM, I can write it to it when it is mounted in win32, just not via fstab on linux
<6> ThomasM, under the options , right? umask=000,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777
<2> Steakk: Well, file_mode=0666,dir_mode=0777
<2> Steakk: I don't know about the umask option. I've never used it.
<1> ThomasM: same thing, just reversed
<1> 000 means 777
<1> sort of
<6> same errors
<2> Steakk: Is it mounting ro or rw?
<6> rw
<1> besides, if you're sharing it on a server using samba, why not just use NFS
<6> if I am root, I can write to it
<6> K_F, no native NFS support in win32
<1> you're not using win32 now though...
<6> my lappy is
<1> didn't say only NFS:.
<1> NFS on the linux one, SMB on the windows one
<7> i never liked nfs
<1> but bed.... later
<8> "You can't spell dishonorable without honorable"
<8> hahaq
<9> hm, so where should we go in Thailand?
<8> rhowe, hua hin? :P
<6> safemode, I agree with you, never liked NFS
<6> //192.168.1.150/media /stuff smbfs username=.....,p***word=.......,umask=000,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0
<6> that should do it just fine
<7> cifs owns you
<2> Hrm. It's ignoring my file_mode and dir_mode (testing on my system). /me checks to see if he's doing this right.
<6> ThomasM, if need be, I can post the smb.conf to a pastebin for ya
<6> perhaps something is ****erd in that
<2> Steakk: Nah. I've got your situation reproduced. :)
<6> now fix it :P
<1> Steakk: try without the _mode thingies
<1> just umask=000
<6> tried that, no avail
<2> fmask=777,dmask=777 works.
<1> ThomasM: can't possibly be true, the umask (fmaks and dmask are different umask) sets the permission bits NOT present
<1> so 777 means that the permission is 000
<2> I'm just saying what works.
<2> I don't care if it's not possible. It's what happens.
<2> //192.168.0.56/C$ /mnt/smb/dell21/c smbfs rs,username=username/domain%p***word,uid=1000,gid=100,fmask=000,dmask=000
<2> Wait. That was me just changing a testing. s/=000/=777/
<2> 000 did not work.
<6> that worked here (adding fmask=777,dmask=777)
<10> Wow...apple already got sued by Cisco over the use of "iPhone"
<1> Set the umask (the bitmask of the permissions that are not present).
<6> hrm>
<11> Soros bought a big slice of Cisco stocks...
<2> K_F: 000 made it so that files are -rwxr-xr-x and directories are drwxr-xr-x It could just be they got their terminology wrong.
<2> 777 on both made it -rwxrwxrwx and drwxrwxrwx.
<1> it shouldn't...
<12> K_F: sent you that letter via email.
<2> And fmask=666,dmask=777 is the best result.
<1> yoz: danke
<12> bitte!
<1> although... not gotten anything..
<12> it will take some time.. that for sure.
<1> hehe
<1> ok..
<8> K_F, I got get pvr
<6> now that that is working, back to PHP
<6> in PHP, can I do something like my_function(&var1,&var2); ? and have $var1 and $var2 get filled for me by my_function?
<2> Steakk: Yes. In the function header, have function my_function( &$var1, &$var 2).
<2> s/ 2/2/
<2> byref/byval is determined in the function header, not the call.
<6> ThomasM, lets take this into priv, no use cluttering the chan :P
<2> Sure. Whatever. Yet another broken language I'm an expert in.
<2> :D
<6> hehe
<5> Finally... Beer O'Clock.
<7> **** beer, when is it half p***ed vodka?
<5> um... how about shots of vodka with a beer chaser? yeah, that'll do me...
<10> It's the presidential address drinking game
<10> Where Bush acknowledges he ****ed up
<5> whee! 30 hours in this week so far and it's only Wednesday...
<10> You take a drink every time he says terrorist, Saddam, freedom, 9/11, liberty, bin laden, and surge
<10> And if he says 9/11 immediately followed by "Saddam brought to justice" you get to pull out your liver and pour grain alcohol directly on it
<5> I detach, go home, ignore you and drink.
<10> Ka-bar: You lack reality
<10> Or rather, create your own little ****ed up world.
<13> nuklear
<13> no, nukle-ear is how he says it
<10> Oh, forgot WMD
<12> *yawn*
<2> whitecap: nucular.
<6> okay, ThomasM totally off topic for a sec, but a client just called me...whats a quick and dirty way to get an mp3 to stream from a site? (IE: $client has a radio ad played locally here, and we have the ad in .mp3 format, and want to put it on the site, so the user can click 'play' to listen to it)
<10> Steakk: vlc
<2> Steakk: Um. Steam from Google. One moment.
<2> Google's got a flash app that you can call remotely, that can stream remote MP3 files.
<6> reality, howtf will a PLAYER help me stream from a site? heh
<6> ThomasM, really? Oh, *googles*
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