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<0> woops, filesystem went to ****
<0> backup backup backup...........
<1> how can i choose what service when system start up?
<2> Eslwo: modify the contents of /etc/rc2.d
<3> Eslwo: depends on distro, but have a look at /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/rc2.d/
<4> X3 really goes on my nuts today.
<2> Rev: ?
<2> Rev: I sort of got distracted by Civ4 and WH40K: Winter ***ault, but I remember that the Normal difficulty mode was really, REALLY damn hard to get started.
<4> Shadur: started a new game. stuck at the second mission. how are you supposed to hit anything with that turret on the planet ?
<4> first time i seem to have shot down something by accident and p***ed :p
<2> Rev: You don't really need to hit much of anything on the planet, but it's great fun and good for recognition points. :)
<2> Just lead your targets and try to anticipate the banking turns. :)
<4> seems i hit not enough. as instead being in space the darn thing ends up against a wall :P
<2> Shoot when he's flying straight.
<4> thats like, 2-3 seconds of the entire flight *G*
<2> I never said it doesn't take quick reflexes.
<2> I suggest using the mouse to shoot when you're using the turret, by the way.
<4> gonna try with a different mouse.
<5> Cheat codes. It's the only anser.
<4> the mx1000 is a bit too heavy for this *G*
<5> Answer even.
<4> there are none.
<4> and thats good(tm9
<5> There are always cheat codes.
<2> Rev: You're too used to twitch FPSen where your turn speed is dependent on how fast you move the mouse.
<4> you know what i really miss in X3?
<2> Turret has a definite maximum turn speed, so you feel like you're logging an anchor around.
<4> multiplayer mode
<2> Mmm.
<2> Rev: I have it on good sources that EVE Online is sort of X3 multiplayer.
<5> EVE?
<4> EVE is supposed to be good
<4> unfortunatly they want money :P
<5> Forgive my lack of gaming knowledge, I'm not in the the "in-crowd" ;)
<6> Tron [!]
<2> Of course, it's also so brutally hardcore that you can build up a m***ive interplanetary operation with huge powerful ships and still lose everything you have in five minutes because of someone more powerful than you deciding to play ***hole.
<5> cheeksy: [o]
<5> *grin*
<2> Which is cool, in a way, but that's the kind of frustration point where I generally load a saved game, and I like having that option.
<4> hehe
<7> 43c453a3230179848784662 <7> 0.395452 kevin Retrained". Mmmm. Dspam good.
<5> A few days ago I was getting ALL sorts of breakage with dspam. Now it be workie fine.
<5> And smtp-auth with tls on postfix is also working goodly.
<5> Life is ****ing slightly less.
<8> hmm. apt-torrent.. interesting concept
<5> I've even got NX working, dammit.
<5> wlfshmn: Haha! What?
<2> Wolfie: It's been suggested. I think it was decided it wasn't really viable except maybe to bring a new mirror up to speed.
<5> Wow there's an apt-torrent homepage..
<5> Wow it looks abitch to set up.
<5> Too much Like Hard Work[tm]
<5> I can imagine myself setting fire to the computer if I have to wait with no progress displayed after typing "apt-torrent update ; apt-torrent upgrade".
<8> Tron: there is an experimental project mentioneed on debian-devel, apparently ;)
<5> wlfshmn: http://sianka.free.fr/documentation.html
<2> torrent really is only faster if you have comparatively few mirrors and many downloaders.
<2> Debian has its flaws, but a shortage of package mirrors is most explicitly not one of them.
<5> Shadur: *nod* And who would be downloading the exact same packages as you at any given time.
<2> Right.
<5> From the docs... "Q: Why is it slow ? A: At the moment, I'm running the sample seeder with my ADSL home connection. Furthermore, since this program is new, not many people are using it."
<9> But it would be good for huge files like .iso of dvd installs
<5> This package is going to fade away into nothingness. It's one of those concepts which will be permanently stuck ina catch-22 situation.
<2> XyZzY: For iso images, yes. For synchronizing the entire package tree simultaneously between mirrors, definitely.
<5> XyZzY: In that case I'd merely use my preferred bittorrent client like Azureus, not apt-torrent.
<2> Tron: Not even that. Even if lots of people started using it, it'd still offer negligible benefit over the existing mirror web.
<5> Shadur: Aye.
<2> torrent traditionally takes some time to ramp up to speed. I get 800+K/s immediately from any of the three "nearest" mirrors.
<9> still for small packages, would not be very effective
<5> Shadur: Unless the mirrors forced the situation by severely limiting the speed at which they give you the data.
<2> Which they have no reason to.
<9> youd get stuck waiting for someone to 'seed' a rare package
<5> That's the biggest weakness of the concept.
<8> there would supposedly always be a master seed though, I ***ume
<2> They'll probably propose the mirror web will get to do the permanent seeding.
<2> Which means that 99% of the time you'll still be no better off than using the traditional http or ftp downloads.
<8> It's an interesting concept in that it woudl make the entry-bar for mirrors considerably lower though
<2> Wolfie: Given that there are literally hundreds of mirrors at the current bar level, I repeat my question: Does anyone stand to gain anything real from this?
<8> Shadur: for and apt-get upgrade, it probably doens't matter all that much, but for a dist-upgrade I think you might well see benefits, and as mentioned before, for updating mirrors themselves
<8> Shadur: HAve you missed the threads that keep popping up whenever something changes in regards to downloading that say "please, please, PLEASE don't make the archive larger, we can't handle it."
<2> Hm, point.
<8> but yes, as you say, it won't be a speedy change unless it's forced from debian-central
<8> and for that to happen, it would first become the prefered method for updaitng mirrors, no doubt
<2> Besides, they'd have to update the seed lists as well.
<2> er, keep updating.
<8> a limitation I see is that it would have to be a pretty darn efficient torent lib used to handle seeding 10000 files (hell, just tracking them...)
<8> and that is per-arch, I suppose ;)
<2> wolfie: That sounds like a very conservative estimate of the number.
<8> Shadur: probably. I no longer keep up with stats ;)
<2> Considering that we're talking about eleven architectures, at least three distribution trees, and a number of discrete versions that have to remain on the trees for a bit longer after a newer version is up. :)
<8> 16300 packages in unstable, apparently
<8> and that is i386 + all
<8> see. -this- is why the world needs more interpreted code ;)
<5> wlfshmn: Rewrite everything in Java? 0.o :P
<10> OMFG debian comes with a cdrom error after detecting the hardware 8) only when selecting german instead of english!
<10> installing *from* cdrom *chuckle*
<8> Tron: no, java wouldn't be my language of choice for most of it ;)
<5> wlfshmn: WHat then?
<8> Tron: althoguh anything written in php could most likely be writen in java instead ;)
<8> Tron: python or ruby, more likely
<8> Tron: there is that other language, but I would hate to see more code in it than I have to
<5> wlfshmn: Rewrite most packages in python or ruby? 0.o
<5> Could that even be possible?
<5> wlfshmn: That's positively diabolical. ;)
<5> w00t
<8> Tron: possible yes, rational or practical? hell no ;)
<5> wlfshmn: See my above remark re: diabolical. ;)
<8> "PANIC: Insufficient semaphores to handle number of concurrent owned critical regions. Please reconfigure your kernel."
<8> wow..
<5> Heh. Not seen that one before.
<5> wlfshmn: That's a good one.
<10> what the **** is this google bot?
<8> Tron: domino server left running on a m***ivly under-powered macine ;)
<2> aiee
<8> Tron: underpowered as in having 256MB of ram, and me runnig 200-ish concurrent corba threads agaisnt it ;)
<5> wlfshmn: Like, ouch. ;)
<8> Tron: stress testing ;)
<5> wlfshmn: I bet the swap thrashes like a dying serpent. ;)
<8> Tron: it's a good thing when I'm not the one that dies, but domino ;)
<8> I should check if that machine can accept unregistered non-ecc memory, and if so, put in a request for a gig or so
<5> Let's just nip that one in the bid.
<5> bud even
<10> 8)
<5> ****ing. Hell.
<11> werd
<5> Sagoro: 'sup?
<11> Tron: Me, barely...just got into the office
<8> anyway, time to run off get something for lunch
<8> laters
<12> Tron: Are you the same tron that used to hang out on the PLA bridge?
<5> What is a PLA bridge?
<12> Okay, guess not. Cool, because he was a total ***hole, and last I heard went to jail for sodomy or something.
<5> Well, I'm probably an ***hole to many people, but I've never went to jail, especially not for sodomy.
<5> And the people I'm an ***hole to are more than likely morons anyway. ;)
<12> PLA bridge is a phone bridge hosted by beehive telephone company which the original use was intended to be for a small town in utah, but kinda got hijacked by lots of phone phreaks who called in.
<5> Ah. I see. Well, I've never been to Utah, live in the UK, and I think phone phreaking is pretty dull.
<12> Well people from the UK call in regularly too.
<5> ****s to be them then.
<12> Usually seem to be doing so with some kind of credit card scam, or something stupid.
<5> You mean phone phreaking still happens? Didn't that die out in the 70's or something?
<5> Watch me care. No, really.
<12> Tron: Actually no. It's just there's not many sites about it. If you go to www.binrev.com it's great forums for phone phreaks, computer guys, radio guys, etc... and they have a lot of links to other really good phreaking sites.
<12> They do lots of cool projects.
<5> What I can see happening in the future, is phreaking, (or phracking) of VOIP links.
<5> If everyone goes VOIP, this will occur.
<10> *nod*
<12> Well, phreaking never died, it just went underground.
<12> Which, for some reason, has made it a lot more interesting.
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