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<0> rhowe, well, if you own decent cisco routers, you can use HSRP :)
<1> dogbert2: We don't :P
<2> we do the same thing in our product, but our implementation is home grown.
<1> Ka-bar: UCARP is an open spec
<1> Ka-bar: Might be worth considering
<2> yeah
<1> Ka-bar: AFAIK, it only supports a pair of nodes though
<1> Ka-bar: heartbeat I think allows any number
<1> A friend did a good presentation at the LUG on UCARP, heartbeat and LVS. Very interesting
<2> rhowe: that's all we do anyway. Our switches can be paired... one primary, one backup... if the primary fails, the backup ***umes the alias IP addresses of the failed primary, etc., etc....
<1> Ka-bar: Then ucarp sounds pretty much ideal
<1> Ka-bar: I'm about to try ucarp out anyway. Known about it for ages, but never used it
<2> yeah, it might be a decent replacement for what we do now. Ours works, but the code isn't exactly pretty...
<3> man... What a fscking lame weather



<1> Ka-bar: ucarp is from OpenBSDland, so the code's probably fairly nice
<2> cool. and our product runs FreeBSD so it may just drop right in.
<4> reality, i still havent been able to find that book
<4> are you sure on the title ?
<5> o/~ Ooooh lief klein konijhijhijntje, oooh lief klein konijhijntje o/~
<3> lol
<3> PolarWolf: mornin' :)
<5> Lion-O: Heyho :)
<3> PolarWolf: what did jij have for drinks vandaag? ;)
<5> Lion-O: Hmm, coffee and stuff
<6> w00t
<6> heartbeat is up and running
<3> PolarWolf: oh dear. Can't be something related to the sun today (I think) SO.. My conclusion is that you're very happy today.. And then you allow that to be spoiled by coming in here? ;)
<3> PolarWolf: did that sweet little bunny rabbit happen to have a fly on its nose by any chance?
<5> Lion-O: Basically
<7> what a ****y friday
<7> and long friday
<3> tavi-san: wet too :(
<7> gah yeah
<7> the beer got in my veins
<7> everyone here is like a wet chicken
<7> bored and just sitting :)
<8> Lion-O: It's only water ;)
<7> Tron: not just any kind of water, it's "wet" water
<3> there we go, that felt good 8)
<8> Lion-O: I'll dry out though. :)
<3> Tron: spoilsport
<3> Tron: its wet, you get cold, it blocks vision
<9> Tron: rain on a bike Bad
<8> Lion-O: You dry out, wear warmer clothing, wear goggles ;)
<9> although I have decent waterproof jumpsuit thingy which helps
<8> smsie: Oh how I laugh heartily when it's really pissing it down and I see those poor bastards trying to get somewhere on a motorbike ;)
<8> smsie: In my nice bog standard Citroen Xara ;)
<7> Tron: check neko and reply please :)
<9> Tron: you laugh less heartily when I blow by a mile of traffic in 2 minutes that takes you an hour :)
<3> Tron: actually thats not that bad. You'll end up dry and on your location faster than a mere car.
<8> smsie: BUt at least I'm 1) Dry, 2) comfortable. :) Anyways, I don't mind being in a tailback, lets me listen to the radio or music.
<3> Well, my rainsuit & gloves keep me dry too. And its not /that/ uncomfortable, but thats a matter of taste ofcourse.
<8> Perhaps one of these days I'll get a motorbike. I doubt it though.
<9> Tron: I am dry and comfortable too
<8> I'm more likely to be requiring to buy a 4-wheel drive for the snow we'll get up in the mountains of Japan during winter.
<8> The driveway from the road to the house I'll be living in rises to about 20 metres above the road level in about the same length of driveway. ;)
<8> Add in about 4 foot of snow and it'll be pretty exciting trying to drive up that to the parking area.
<7> Tron: im talkig to myself on neko :)
<7> and talked a lot :)
<10> Tron: cripes
<5> Levels are becoming intolerable again
<2> PolarWolf: tactical nukes
<10> Tron: g'day
<10> hey PW
<5> Ka-bar: Go right ahead
<5> Nanuq: ey
<5> Maybe I'll start working with whitelists
<8> Nanuq: Greetings :)
<8> PolarWolf: WHat's your current method of antispam?
<3> dspam manages to keep my spam to an absolute minimum.
<8> Lion-O: I agree. dspam id fricking great.



<8> s/id/is/
<3> and judging from my logs... eeew
<3> magi:/usr/local/bin $ pfexec ./dspam_stats peter
<3> peter TP: 6126 TN: 6794 FP: 0 FN: 378 SC: 9 IC: 0
<5> Tron: dspam and SA
<8> PolarWolf: Yow! Both of them? 0.o
<3> meaning: that out of 6794 at least 6126 got identified.
<8> kevin TP: 6285 TN: 7812 FP: 1 FN: 552 SC: 846 IC: 2260
<3> it would seem that the manpage is a bit off. Anyway, no false positives for me, and only 378 missed spam messages.
<3> that number is bound to go down over time.
<2> Tron: your name is Kevin?
<8> Lion-O: *nod* I've not had a false positive yet with dspam.
<8> Ka-bar: Yep.
<6> https://mail.ivytech.edu/cgi-bin/mailgraph.cgi
<2> Tron: me too
<3> Tron: euh, according to what you pasted you had 1 ;)
<8> Lion-O: Er, I accidentally manually told dspam that a valid email was spam, then I had to tell it it was ham after all.
<5> Tron: Yeh, both of them
<8> Lion-O: The web interface needs improvement ;)
<5> But I think most of the junk comes through the backdoor, i.e. aliases which point to root
<3> Tron: absolutely. I'm busy (but slowly) writing a servlet/applet for it.
<8> Lion-O: Nowadays on the rare occasion dspam lets spam though, I just forward the spam email to "spam-kevin@..." and dspam takes care of the rest.
<5> Apparently those never p*** dspam through exim
<3> Tron: *nod*. Same here.
<8> Ka-bar: I see ;)
<11> re
<8> Lion-O: kcave@email:~$ uptime 17:24:10 up 135 days, 19:26, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.01
<9> the box is called email?
<9> gotta love your imagination
<8> Lion-O: I run my email server inside a Xen vm, alongside the ircd xen vm ;)
<8> smsie: It's a Xen vm.
<8> smsie: The box is actually called sentinel ;)
<11> the box is actually called trons-xen-vm
<8> OldMonk: Bzzzt! Incorrect. ;)
<9> I used to have a box called k6-2 I suppose
<9> I guess we'll forgive your crapness
<8> smsie: Shutit!
<8> smsie: I got my house ***essed by an estate agent on Wednesday there. The price I should ask for is... pleasing ;)
<3> Tron: ah. No virtual machine for me. But thats primarily due to the overhead it would cost me. And since exim runs as an unprivildged user...
<9> Tron: outta my league then?
<11> what's the forcedeth driver do?
<11> ksh
<8> Lion-O: I use postfix. I don't like the looks of exim4, but then again that's probably because I'm more familiar with postfix than exim ;)
<12> OldMonk
<3> Tron: *nod*
<3> hmm
<3> I'm using 3.6.1 so I guess an upgrade is in order.
<11> clamav vulnerability reported day-before
<9> Tron: hmm, it's more than I thought I can get, but it's not so much more that I wouldn't even bother asking the bank about it
<13> At a four way stop if the driver ahead of me stops past the stop sign and applies makeup and I stop at the plane of the stop sign, then afterwards another car pulls up to another stop sign what order should the cars proceed through the intersection?
<8> smsie: Well, all going well next week, I'll get the visa for Japan next wednesday and I shall immediately instruct the estate agent to put it on the market.
<9> Tron: excellent
<9> Tron: do $ork know yet?
<8> smsie: Yes they do.
<9> I'm in the good books at work
<9> I worked all night to get this project delivered on time after the vendors ****ed up and delivered their part three weeks late
<2> redfrog: WTF?
<9> maybe I'll get a bonus
<8> OldMonk: It's not courage really, but in my experience, fortune has favoured the foolish ;)
<9> oh look, another flying pig!
<6> redfrog: c'mon, what's the punchline already?
<8> smsie: Haha!
<12> smsie: Then again, maybe not ;)
<8> smsie: Does that mean you're in a better mood now? ;)
<13> Ka-bar, I went second and some guy in a truck flipped out and nearly rammed me
<11> Tron: courage == foolishness, no? :)
<9> Tron: yeah, a lot of the pressure has been relieved
<9> Tron: of course, I've not slept for like 36 hours...


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