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<0> rhowe, well, if you own decent cisco routers, you can use HSRP :) <1> dogbert2: We don't :P <2> we do the same thing in our product, but our implementation is home grown. <1> Ka-bar: UCARP is an open spec <1> Ka-bar: Might be worth considering <2> yeah <1> Ka-bar: AFAIK, it only supports a pair of nodes though <1> Ka-bar: heartbeat I think allows any number <1> A friend did a good presentation at the LUG on UCARP, heartbeat and LVS. Very interesting <2> rhowe: that's all we do anyway. Our switches can be paired... one primary, one backup... if the primary fails, the backup ***umes the alias IP addresses of the failed primary, etc., etc.... <1> Ka-bar: Then ucarp sounds pretty much ideal <1> Ka-bar: I'm about to try ucarp out anyway. Known about it for ages, but never used it <2> yeah, it might be a decent replacement for what we do now. Ours works, but the code isn't exactly pretty... <3> man... What a fscking lame weather
<1> Ka-bar: ucarp is from OpenBSDland, so the code's probably fairly nice <2> cool. and our product runs FreeBSD so it may just drop right in. <4> reality, i still havent been able to find that book <4> are you sure on the title ? <5> o/~ Ooooh lief klein konijhijhijntje, oooh lief klein konijhijntje o/~ <3> lol <3> PolarWolf: mornin' :) <5> Lion-O: Heyho :) <3> PolarWolf: what did jij have for drinks vandaag? ;) <5> Lion-O: Hmm, coffee and stuff <6> w00t <6> heartbeat is up and running <3> PolarWolf: oh dear. Can't be something related to the sun today (I think) SO.. My conclusion is that you're very happy today.. And then you allow that to be spoiled by coming in here? ;) <3> PolarWolf: did that sweet little bunny rabbit happen to have a fly on its nose by any chance? <5> Lion-O: Basically <7> what a ****y friday <7> and long friday <3> tavi-san: wet too :( <7> gah yeah <7> the beer got in my veins <7> everyone here is like a wet chicken <7> bored and just sitting :) <8> Lion-O: It's only water ;) <7> Tron: not just any kind of water, it's "wet" water <3> there we go, that felt good 8) <8> Lion-O: I'll dry out though. :) <3> Tron: spoilsport <3> Tron: its wet, you get cold, it blocks vision <9> Tron: rain on a bike Bad <8> Lion-O: You dry out, wear warmer clothing, wear goggles ;) <9> although I have decent waterproof jumpsuit thingy which helps <8> smsie: Oh how I laugh heartily when it's really pissing it down and I see those poor bastards trying to get somewhere on a motorbike ;) <8> smsie: In my nice bog standard Citroen Xara ;) <7> Tron: check neko and reply please :) <9> Tron: you laugh less heartily when I blow by a mile of traffic in 2 minutes that takes you an hour :) <3> Tron: actually thats not that bad. You'll end up dry and on your location faster than a mere car. <8> smsie: BUt at least I'm 1) Dry, 2) comfortable. :) Anyways, I don't mind being in a tailback, lets me listen to the radio or music. <3> Well, my rainsuit & gloves keep me dry too. And its not /that/ uncomfortable, but thats a matter of taste ofcourse. <8> Perhaps one of these days I'll get a motorbike. I doubt it though. <9> Tron: I am dry and comfortable too <8> I'm more likely to be requiring to buy a 4-wheel drive for the snow we'll get up in the mountains of Japan during winter. <8> The driveway from the road to the house I'll be living in rises to about 20 metres above the road level in about the same length of driveway. ;) <8> Add in about 4 foot of snow and it'll be pretty exciting trying to drive up that to the parking area. <7> Tron: im talkig to myself on neko :) <7> and talked a lot :) <10> Tron: cripes <5> Levels are becoming intolerable again <2> PolarWolf: tactical nukes <10> Tron: g'day <10> hey PW <5> Ka-bar: Go right ahead <5> Nanuq: ey <5> Maybe I'll start working with whitelists <8> Nanuq: Greetings :) <8> PolarWolf: WHat's your current method of antispam? <3> dspam manages to keep my spam to an absolute minimum. <8> Lion-O: I agree. dspam id fricking great.
<8> s/id/is/ <3> and judging from my logs... eeew <3> magi:/usr/local/bin $ pfexec ./dspam_stats peter <3> peter TP: 6126 TN: 6794 FP: 0 FN: 378 SC: 9 IC: 0 <5> Tron: dspam and SA <8> PolarWolf: Yow! Both of them? 0.o <3> meaning: that out of 6794 at least 6126 got identified. <8> kevin TP: 6285 TN: 7812 FP: 1 FN: 552 SC: 846 IC: 2260 <3> it would seem that the manpage is a bit off. Anyway, no false positives for me, and only 378 missed spam messages. <3> that number is bound to go down over time. <2> Tron: your name is Kevin? <8> Lion-O: *nod* I've not had a false positive yet with dspam. <8> Ka-bar: Yep. <6> https://mail.ivytech.edu/cgi-bin/mailgraph.cgi <2> Tron: me too <3> Tron: euh, according to what you pasted you had 1 ;) <8> Lion-O: Er, I accidentally manually told dspam that a valid email was spam, then I had to tell it it was ham after all. <5> Tron: Yeh, both of them <8> Lion-O: The web interface needs improvement ;) <5> But I think most of the junk comes through the backdoor, i.e. aliases which point to root <3> Tron: absolutely. I'm busy (but slowly) writing a servlet/applet for it. <8> Lion-O: Nowadays on the rare occasion dspam lets spam though, I just forward the spam email to "spam-kevin@..." and dspam takes care of the rest. <5> Apparently those never p*** dspam through exim <3> Tron: *nod*. Same here. <8> Ka-bar: I see ;) <11> re <8> Lion-O: kcave@email:~$ uptime 17:24:10 up 135 days, 19:26, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.01 <9> the box is called email? <9> gotta love your imagination <8> Lion-O: I run my email server inside a Xen vm, alongside the ircd xen vm ;) <8> smsie: It's a Xen vm. <8> smsie: The box is actually called sentinel ;) <11> the box is actually called trons-xen-vm <8> OldMonk: Bzzzt! Incorrect. ;) <9> I used to have a box called k6-2 I suppose <9> I guess we'll forgive your crapness <8> smsie: Shutit! <8> smsie: I got my house ***essed by an estate agent on Wednesday there. The price I should ask for is... pleasing ;) <3> Tron: ah. No virtual machine for me. But thats primarily due to the overhead it would cost me. And since exim runs as an unprivildged user... <9> Tron: outta my league then? <11> what's the forcedeth driver do? <11> ksh <8> Lion-O: I use postfix. I don't like the looks of exim4, but then again that's probably because I'm more familiar with postfix than exim ;) <12> OldMonk <3> Tron: *nod* <3> hmm <3> I'm using 3.6.1 so I guess an upgrade is in order. <11> clamav vulnerability reported day-before <9> Tron: hmm, it's more than I thought I can get, but it's not so much more that I wouldn't even bother asking the bank about it <13> At a four way stop if the driver ahead of me stops past the stop sign and applies makeup and I stop at the plane of the stop sign, then afterwards another car pulls up to another stop sign what order should the cars proceed through the intersection? <8> smsie: Well, all going well next week, I'll get the visa for Japan next wednesday and I shall immediately instruct the estate agent to put it on the market. <9> Tron: excellent <9> Tron: do $ork know yet? <8> smsie: Yes they do. <9> I'm in the good books at work <9> I worked all night to get this project delivered on time after the vendors ****ed up and delivered their part three weeks late <2> redfrog: WTF? <9> maybe I'll get a bonus <8> OldMonk: It's not courage really, but in my experience, fortune has favoured the foolish ;) <9> oh look, another flying pig! <6> redfrog: c'mon, what's the punchline already? <8> smsie: Haha! <12> smsie: Then again, maybe not ;) <8> smsie: Does that mean you're in a better mood now? ;) <13> Ka-bar, I went second and some guy in a truck flipped out and nearly rammed me <11> Tron: courage == foolishness, no? :) <9> Tron: yeah, a lot of the pressure has been relieved <9> Tron: of course, I've not slept for like 36 hours...
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