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<0> heh
<0> http://pag.csail.mit.edu/~adonovan/dilbert/dilbert-07-03-2003.gif
<1> breaking news day from hell
<2> gah. those reboots ****
<2> having wink23 as your main router/server leads to _some_ issues :P
<2> anyway. shower
<3> Ouch DH
<4> Is that due to commands from On High not to patch it?
<4> Or is there something that you know will go wrong if you do patch it?
<5> software conflict. if you sp1 the thing, 12K's worth of software will stop working
<1> that ****s.
<5> this will not be resoved until next april at the earliest
<4> ugh
<5> CA bought out the company who wrote it....
<4> ****y indeed



<5> "this should be your primary smtp inbound server" "drop dead"
<2> hah
<2> that sounds bad. but doesn't most stuff that involves CA? :P
<6> CA ****s dead gerbils through a dirty garden hose
<5> Ka-bar: and yet, STILL manages to sell narrow-gerbil licences to international companies...
<6> DaveHowe: PT Barnum was not only correct, he severely underestimated things...
<5> "you can fool enough of the people, enough of the time, if you work in corporate marketing"
<6> "There's a ****er born every minute"
<7> more like every picosecond
<5> "and they die about that fast too" </carwars>
<1> hmmmm, do work or setup SMTP AUTH at home
<6> and who in their right mind would buy a software package named SAP?
<6> The same people who buy evian bottled water?
<5> schitzo: setup SMTP AUTH at home, then bill it as test-environment overtime
<1> DaveHowe: I'm salary. doesn't really matter.
<6> http://www.borowitzreport.com/ <= LOL
<5> schitzo: so am I - I still get overtime for out-of-hours work though - or at least TOIL
<1> DaveHowe: yeah I slack ehough at work that I shouldn't do that
<1> mother ****er. Some parent has a disney movie playing on a laptop for their kid to watch without any headphones or anything
<1> like I want to listen to goddamn mother****ing disney movie
<1> inconsiderate bastards
<7> are you in a public place or something?
<5> schitzo: "madam, I represent the MPAA; can I see your licence for the public performance of this film?"
<6> heh
<1> Liandrin: yeah, Crowne Room
<1> DaveHowe: HAHAHA
<6> and she smashes the laptop over your head while screaming "Movie Nazi!"
<7> lol.
<1> If it was a Warner Bros. film I would. Don't give a **** about Disney
<1> other than I have to listen to the crap. I should pull out my iPod and crank up some death metal
<5> EMP weaponry
<6> there ya go...
<6> I want an EMP weapon to fry the boom-boom car that belongs to the kid next door. He sits in his driveway with the b*** cranked up so loud that **** rattles inside my apartment.
<1> ohhh EMP. that would work except screw my stuff up too. along with the airports ****
<1> Ka-bar: shoot him
<5> schitzo: you shut down your **** first. of course, you could pay some teen to rip off the laptop and sprint out of the airport with it
<6> schitzo: well, it may come to that if he lays a hand on me. I politely asked him to turn it down last time and he told me to **** off and get off his property and then started getting pushy in my face.
<8> jgaddis: real mahjongg?
<0> schitzo: wait, how does that work? WB vs Disney?
<1> Nanuq: I work for Turner/CNN a Time WArner Company. WB is one of ours. Along with some others.
<0> schitzo: Oh, not content, just being a movie nazi. :)
<9> hmm. someone was murdered six hours ago, either in my apartment complex or the next one..
<2> wlfshmn: ow
<0> wlfshmn: would that be .se's first of the year?
<9> Nanuq: we aren't quite -that- safe ;)
<9> this one was just a bit closer than prefereable
<7> I was reading somewhere that _thirteen_ people were murdered in Indiannapolis last week
<0> my question is whether they had it comin' or not
<7> bringing the total to something like 95
<0> see, the worst sort of crime is completely random
<7> meanwhile, here in Vancouver, we've only just had the sixteenth or so of the _year_
<0> but if people are askin' for it, or have it comin', well.. serves 'em right
<9> Liandrin: Well, I don't mind murders in Indiannapolis. They are unlikely to affect me. ;)
<0> i'm not as concerned
<1> Nanuq: oh. I don't care about Disney stuff since ot's not part of the company and my stock options don't deal with it
<7> in one case, they had flooded an area with so many cops that they arrived on-scene in 30 seconds from the report of "shots fired"
<10> Liandrin: that's probably about right
<9> this looks like it was perpetrated by the spouse



<7> you're more likely to be murdered by a spouse or other member of immediate family than anyone else
<10> or by me
<11> hi
<7> jgaddis, well, you're already a distortion in the statistics :P
<10> Liandrin: heh
<11> what the name fot instaling linux
<0> hey Liandrin, btw
<11> ?
<9> Liandrin: This is the sort of neigbourhood where I wouldn't pay much attention to an ambulance..
<0> kitaro20: "gettin' it on with teh penguin'
<0> er "
<9> Liandrin: average age here is higher than in florida..
<7> wlfshmn, I live (in)conveniently close to stations for all three emergency services
<11> pinguin what
<11> i hear of redhat
<7> and greetings, Nanuq
<11> that some people use
<9> Liandrin: Good to know, in case tigercub decides to stab you, eh? ;)
<0> Liandrin: Oh btw.. do you find this at all unusual?
<1> Air Canada flight was grounded
<7> Nanuq, which?
<0> Liandrin: At the grocery, they have a display of hams on sale. Right next to a display of halal product.
<7> Nanuq, haha
<9> Nanuq: hehe
<0> literally the next one over
<0> between another bit of pork, iirc
<10> i have a feeling it's gonna be cold on the way home
<2> Nanuq: hehe
<0> I've bought the halal stuff. I'm probably going to hell, but some of it is pretty good.
<9> Nanuq: You go to hell for halal stuff? ;)
<0> This isn't a one time thing either.
<0> They always have the halal stuff in the same place, but stuff on special at either end of the (refrigerated) section.
<0> sausage is opposite it, iirc
<9> hmm. an upcoming "Stardust" adaptation for the movies..
<0> some shrimp would be the icing on the cake
<9> and a strong possibility of a "Good Omens" movie shooting this winter..
<0> wlfshmn: I dunno, seems like something that might be quoted in some scripture somewhere at some time by someone.
<0> Not only I'm going to hell, but I'm getting 71 litres of extra virgin olive oil, instead.
<9> halal? yeah, it's a muslim way of butchering IIRC..
<7> well, kashrut is specified in a section of the OT that Christians inherited and discarded, and halal is sort of a resurrection of that by Islam...
<2> good thing we did that
<7> as I understand it, if you're keeping kosher and can't get kosher meat, halal meat is an acceptable substitute
<9> in sweden both halal and kosher butchery methods are forbidden due to causing undue suffering to the animals..
<0> yeah the prayer goes "O Allah, let the recipient of this meat not overcook it, lest I pour honey on him and leave him out in bear-infested woods."
<2> Nanuq: lol
<0> wlfshmn: Thought it was the opposite.
<9> Nanuq: I seem to recall both methods requiring the animal to bleed to death, but I'm unsure of the details..
<0> wlfshmn: AFAIK kosher technique is supposed to be relatively humane.
<9> "It involves severing the major arteries in the neck of the animal, as well as the esophagus and trachea with one swipe of a nonserrated blade."
<0> maybe I should've bought that huge ****in' daikon
<0> I mean.. it was HUGE
<0> half metre long, 10cm in diameter
<7> you'll have daikon for years.
<9> Nanuq: seems there is a lack of agreement wether or not it induces more suffering or less..
<0> Liandrin: Er, not really. Doesn't keep that well, unless I'd, say, pickle it.
<9> Nanuq: it seems to be a matter mostly over wether the animal should be stunned before slaughter or not..
<0> wlfshmn: Is it acceptable to, for the purpose of such preparation?
<7> Nanuq, okay, you could have pickled daikon for years.
<0> Liandrin: Not really, I love the stuff.
<0> For a week maybe.
<9> Nanuq: It seems in sweden atleast, true halal slaghter is illegal, there is a similar method allowed, but the purists aren't pleased
<0> wlfshmn: Well I think it's all bollocks myself, but meh.
<9> Nanuq: yeah, well, I can't say I persoanlly care much for how my meat became a burger.. it's preferable if there is as little suffernig as possible ofcourse, but the tech in me refuses to cite a 2000 year old manual...
<0> wlfshmn: afair a lot of this did have some bearing back when
<9> Nanuq: oh, sure
<9> Nanuq: I don't doubt that the methods as described were decidedly human with those standards
<0> wlfshmn: Well I was referring to pork, shellfish, etc.
<9> Nanuq: many of the forbidden foods are also foods that are very hard to keep sanitary in heat
<12> BTW, Kosher all had to do with sanitation back in the day (as in, there was none). Doesn't really apply to todays standards.
<9> Nanuq: ... like shellfish
<12> Hence why I no longer keep kosher.


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