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<0> LiNuX1788: you're not
<0> its right off 3rd
<1> Jostein: santhanshaugen, fire
<0> oehansen: you're thinking midtown and uptown
<2> K_F: oh
<0> http://www.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&q=category:+Comedy+Clubs&near=&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.02446,82.441406&ll=40.730275,-74.000087&spn=0.005894,0.010064&om=1
<3> D-side: ah, ok ... mcdougal is downtown? I haven't hiked further down than soho and parts china town I think. Took the bus to the edge to visit the statue.
<3> D-side: was running the marathon in 1988 ... so I got quite a view :)
<1> Jostein: fire dept on location now..
<4> D-side: you ever been to LaCaverna's?
<0> i dunno that i'd call it "downtown" since its just above soho
<0> LiNuX1788: no
<0> i dont go in often
<4> i see..
<0> hell, last weekend was my first trip to GZ
<4> GZ?
<0> i'd been to the towers before, but not after 9/11
<4> ohh
<3> I wish could have more chances to visit new york and the states in general ... there's a lot left for me to see :(
<0> oehansen: there sure is.
<4> D-side: I was 4 blocks away when the towers went down..
<4> I started running like hell
<0> oehansen: wait. 88? man. you have no idea how cleaned up this place is now. heh
<3> D-side: maybe someday lady luck will look my way ... who knows.
<5> I bet
<0> i let my 14 year old cousin out of my eyesight on 42nd. times have changed. :D
<3> D-side: I was also in new york in 1998 ... ten years later, visiting my sister. It was somewhat cleaner, I remember in 1988 everthen greather than 6th avenue was a mess.
<1> Jostein: they haven't found it yet though...
<0> LiNuX1788: how old are you?
<3> D-side: I went with my sister and her son in the subway, in 1998. Her hubby was pissed, and yielled "without a gun!" :)
<0> pissed?
<2> K_F: thats sorta special
<0> as in drunk? you people and your expressions. heh
<1> Jostein: possibly a "disturbed" person calling it in
<3> D-side: yeah ... he's the kind, that wears a colt at his hip. I'm the kind that don't care and love to experience the place.
<6> Hi. I was here earlier regarding a compilation error for alsa-driver, and I was told to read the manual. Now I've read many manuals, googled for hours and recompiled the kernel and nothing seems to work. The error I'm getting is "/bin/sh: line 1: scripts/basic/fixdep: No such file or directory". Does anyone have the slightest clue to what might be wrong?
<3> D-side: in 1988, the largest urinal, during the marathon ... I was in the line!!! :)
<2> K_F: right
<5> fisknils: you don't have the sh shell program
<1> Jostein: dispatch is at 50% personell
<7> fisknils: you're trying to compile the alsa drivers while Debian supports all that natively.
<2> K_F: meaning they sent 50% of their people?
<5> fisknils: scratch that
<2> K_F: is someone physically trying to DOS the police? :P
<6> Lion-O, but the files I get from apt-get does not work.
<7> XyZzY: actually.. The shebang of the script is probably fux0red.
<7> fisknils: so do it properly.
<3> Jostein: if the police can get dos'ed ... they deserve a medal for idiocy.
<6> Lion-O, could you at least direct me to what manuals I'm supposed to read?
<0> oehansen: i hope you get the chance to come back. you'd like it.
<7> anyway, we've indeed been over this before.
<7> fisknils: Well, the Debian admin guides are a good start. And it helps not to tie yourself to frontends. For example (as documented) my soundcard is also not detected by that conf program you mentioned. But my sound works ;)
<1> Jostein: no, dispatch is underpowered
<3> D-side: I certainly hope so ... but I'm poor, and not getting any more advanced. But I'd love to visit again, more than once.
<2> K_F: right
<3> D-side: I wouldn't mind living there, but then I don't have that many oportunities really ... so that's not an option.
<0> oehansen: good luck
<6> Lion-O, debian admin guides. gotcha. I'm terribly sorry about being so newbie'ish. But I really dont have anywhere else to go for help. Thanks for helping me out. I'll go read the debian admin guides now :P
<3> D-side: but ... I'll wait till things "settle" in the states. politically.
<0> oehansen: not at all a bad idea
<8> D-side, we're patching right now :)
<3> D-side: I know, sadly... americans are usually very upright, but I don't think I'd be any better in the same situation.
<3> it's easy to be on the sideline and judge.
<4> take care everyone
<9> Lion-O: question?
<7> smsie: I can't stand the suspense! ;)
<9> Lion-O: what was the question?
<7> smsie: are you active on the Sun forums? I noticed a guy with an alias 'stephen...' and in response to some question mentioned his hourly fee. It immediatly reminded me of you :)
<9> Lion-O: ah, no...I'm not. I don't have an hourly fee anyway. You want me, you pay for a day
<7> smsie: aah ok :)
<9> Lion-O: I happily charge so much that nobody ever hires me :)
<3> smsie: better charge too much, than too little
<10> usually works out very well
<9> oehansen: I deliberately charge so much that I won't be hired
<11> smsie: I did that once, and the guy just said, ok.
<9> whyzzyrd: yeah. Anyone who wants to pay me a grand a day will get my FULL attention
<5> fisknils: everone was a newbie once (some a long, LONG time ago). it's the ones that are not willing to learn that frustrate.
<9> whyzzyrd: given that in order to do it, I'd have to take time off work, fill in tax forms, etc...I figure I want to be WELL compensated
<5> whitecap: makes you wonder what the other people said that they turned down/ Either that or you gotta love desperate people in that case >:P
<5> hey I'd take a vacation day to make a quick grand like that. double dipping i say :)
<11> smsie: The tax stuff is a right PITA for self-employed really. There's a question of whether you're "starting a business" and if you've registered that fact with the Inland Revenue.
<11> smsie: You get fined if they deem you started a business without registering it.
<10> it's easy here
<10> or was for me anyways
<9> whyzzyrd: exactly
<9> whyzzyrd: although you can be a sole trader without too many problems
<3> smsie: if you charge too little, you will get no respect ... and if you charge much, you will get enough to be able to stay awhile and do a decent job.
<9> oehansen: I charge enough that nobody wants to hire me. I already have a well paid fulltime job. I don't need to consult
<3> smsie: I've always wanted to be able to charge enough to do a decent job instead of a half-way job ... it's tiresome.
<10> smsie: so then why even bother "charging"
<10> ?
<10> you can't charge for something you don't do
<9> prometheus_: so that I don't have to say "no"
<9> prometheus_: saying "no" is bad for future business
<8> OR, he will ****loads of money :P
<9> prometheus_: besides, I tell people how much I charge...I don't have to tell them that I don't get that rate often :)
<9> that gets me respect with certain people (which think that kind of **** matters)
<11> smsie: I pondered setting myself up as a sole practioner, and getting one of my friends with a business to put me on a tiny retainer to service their pubs n clubs in the town in which I work..
<11> smsie: that way, I could claim back my milage for going to work, 2 days a week or so.
<9> whyzzyrd: yeah, and a portion of the car costs
<5> whitecap: knowing that some club are nudie, 'service' takes on a _whole_ new meaning
<3> smsie: that kind of ****, does matter. I've seen enough of cheap skates to know.
<9> would working in a nudie club count as "payment in kind" for the taxman? :)
<6> XyZzY, thanks for seeing it that way :)
<11> XyZzY: you have nick confusion, and sadly none of their places are noodie bars, unless you count the drunken slappers getting their kit off..
<9> oehansen: people ask if you so work, you tell them "sure, a grand a day". They can't afford it and don't want to pay it, but they believe you're REALLY good :)
<5> whitecap: tsk, tskm tsk. it's just too sad
<8> find some boring *** job that cant be automated
<5> stamp licking?
<8> haha yea
<8> or something that involves hand writing
<5> Ooo politician ****up letters
<11> "write out 1000 times, in handwriting "Fredk got me good this time, he really pwned me"
<5> still involves chapstick
<8> renaming every single file on a system to a combination of upper and lower case "a"
<8> *and* making sure the system works afterwards
<11> fredk: oh, you mean like moomoo encoding?
<3> smsie: it does matter, for a grand a day ... you can concentrate on the job and do it decent. for a buck a day, you gotta get several jobs to make a living.
<8> whyzzyrd, maybe? :)
<8> oehansen, I bet he's talking a grand in GBP
<8> For a grand in GBP he better be damn good with oral :P
<5> the "yes" guy from "can you hear me now?"
<9> oehansen: I already make a good living. I'd have to take time off from that to consult...hence I charge bloody high
<8> smsie, how about weekends? :)
<11> smsie: you'd effectively have to give up a day of your holiday, and that's expensive
<3> fredk: I dont make that much a month
<9> fredk: if you want me on a weekend, you can pay me double. **** THAT!
<9> whyzzyrd: exactly!
<5> how about 1000 different boring jobs then?
<9> whyzzyrd: after the taxman has a bite, a grand a day is only about 650quid anyway...subtract the lost earnings, it's only about 450 quid...add the h***le factor. It's practically working for free!
<8> smsie, you're just a lazy **** ;)
<9> fredk: that too
<8> haha
<3> docfu: I've made my piece, now register
<11> fredk: and think of a job that's complicated enough to hire someone at that price in, that'd only take a day?
<8> whyzzyrd :)
<9> oh, it'd never be a day
<9> it'd be a week probably
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