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<0> so knowing that the camera is good, i want to use it to make sure the serial port is behaving, and from there do what i need to do with the GPS device
<1> Freiheit: You need to know if it needs DTS, the baud rate, paratity ..
<2> para titty?
<1> OldMonk: Right :)
<1> Freiheit: Why would the serial port not work? Connect an old mouse and see in minicom if you get some characters ..
<1> But of course, if the UART is miconfigured ...
<0> misch: I cleaned out my parts+wires box a while ago and junked most of my serial devices
<0> hrm, probably what I need to do is just write a script to attempt to connect/read from the serial port with the various connection options
<1> Freiheit: See .. bad mistake.Never ever throw anything away. setserial might help.
<1> Freiheit: GPSs usually connect at 9600 8N1
<0> sudo camediaplay /dev/ttyS0
<0> tcgetattr: Input/output error
<0> can't set baudrate
<0> same response up to ttys4
<1> Freiheit: Firts try to set baudrate with setserial. Always cover the basics first.
<2> first use dmesg to see that you have a serial port
<0> ?? dmesg | grep serial ???
<2> grep tty
<0> thx. ok apparently i dont have a serial port
<2> Freiheit: and please spell your words out
<1> OldMonk: You go help him. I've got a date with 'Law & Order' :)
<2> misch: you in trouble again?
<0> Much obliged for all the help so far.
<1> OldMonk: Yeah. But that is on TV.
<2> oh, tv
<1> OldMonk: Actually, it's DVD. Just got the 4th season from Amazon.
<2> as bad...
<1> OldMonk: You are right. Its bad. Its decadend. Its below average. But I looove it :D
<1> And two more seasons and I have a law degree :)
<0> Could be worse, I'm watching the English sink the Bismarck. At least with Law & Order theres some suspense over who loses
<1> Freiheit: Hmm .. yeah. Sind the Bismarck is quite lame. We all know the Krauts won ;)
<0> ok so the serial port isn't recognized. where should i start looking to get it recognized and mounted?
<2> Freiheit: modprobe or something
<1> bbl..
<2> Freiheit: there's a serial-howto
<0> found it. I'll read that and try to crack it myself.
<3> Argh, i'm trying to communicate with a server in perl that closes connection after every request, and I'd rather not have to specify all the damn IO options everytime i want to send/recieve ...Reuse is set to 1 yet it still fails.
<0> Thanks for the pointers. Just switched from Windows and all the normal/neccessary things 'just worked' so I had to go and find a wierd problem to solve. :D
<0> ugh! Ok the serial port didn't work for the same reason sound wasn't working. It was turned off in the BIOS by the previous owner.
<4> ****.
<4> I'm playing around with this Second Life **** and it looks like I spent $6 of real money.
<4> Oh well, I guess it was for watching those two chicks dance naked, heh.
<4> Freiheit: Hey, where are you at?
<0> Fort Wayne, Indiana
<4> Ahh, Ft. Wayne.
<0> yea wasn't my first choice. You?
<4> Bloomington
<4> Buddy and I went to a bowling alley in Ft. Wayne years ago with about 60 lanes, and go beat up by a bunch of Mexicans.
<4> Teenagers, drunk, runnin' our mouths, heh.
<0> Those were the days
<5> what are the functional differences between dash and bash?
<6> dash is strictly POSIX compliant.
<6> bash is not (even in POSIX compatibility mode)
<7> Damn it's cold
<5> oh
<5> yes
<5> its cold
<5> whats your location
<7> AL, USA
<5> cool
<6> well, one of the design goals of dash is strict POSIX compliance. I haven't tried it to evaluate how compliant it is.
<5> do you get aot of thunder***** down there?
<5> smooth_, interesingly enough dash is the default for ubuntu (at least the server install)
<6> as it should be.
<7> WTF is thunder*****?
<5> it was a joke; alabama thunder***** is a band
<6> I've always found it annoying how the majority of Linux distributions symlink /bin/sh to /bin/bash (or /usr/bin/bash)
<6> you're going to write unportable scripts that way.
<5> why is that?
<5> i mean, why is it the majority
<6> a variety of reasons.
<6> when Linux distributions first started shipping it, other more, sane shells like ksh weren't under a free license (so says the FSF).
<6> and dash is a fairly recent development.
<5> oh
<5> that explains it
<8> bash may not be posix compliant, but compare scripting it to scripting csh ;P
<6> RelDrgn, other alternatives to bash have always been around, other than csh.
<6> ksh88 pre-dates bash by at least a couple of years.
<6> and ksh88 is the shell that the POSIX spec (1003.b) 'sh' section was written around.
<5> was ksh88 released in 1988?
<6> yes
<4> damn
<5> I was born that year
<6> and prior to that you had the original Bourne shell and a few other 'fringe' shells (like tcsh)
<2> jlgaddis: and...?
<9> tcsh is considered "fringe"
<6> Wells, for the time, it was.
<6> nobody shipped it.
<10> hmmm
<6> despite it being in existence since 1979.
<10> this the shellph-networks/
<6> BSD continued to ship csh until its death.
<10> ?
<4> OldMonk: That's it.
<2> jlgaddis: sounds quite productive to me
<4> I haven't really moved either, still in the same spot.
<10> heelllow!
<10> this the shellph-networks?
<8> Hmm. tubular bells
<11> i wanted to come back and say thx for the url's to the nvidia docs i needed a few days ago
<2> hole_: you can pay now
<11> Si
<11> gimme asec bringing lappy outside for a cig
<0> bummer. My serial port is fine, but it looks like ill need to resolder my GPS rig. Its not sending signals now.
<11> ok remember how i was unable to run x with the new drivers?
<4> Good thing all the stores are closed at this hour.
<11> on a hunch i tried older drivers and it worked
<11> nvidia splash screen and all
<11> the newest drivers dont work with the nvidia geforce 440go
<0> hole_ which versions? Ive got a laptop using a 4xx go that i'm thinking about switching
<11> 8776
<11> maybe 8667
<11> the only one that starts wiith 8
<11> use the .run file dont do it with yast
<11> what kind of lappy
<0> toshiba 6100 satellite pro
<11> oh wow untill now i thought oldmonk said play notpay
<0> fiance has it at the moment. if its going out in the wild for nothing more than firefox and openoffice theres no need for windows
<11> i suggest opensuse10.2
<11> fastest boot
<0> hows the power/fan maintenance on that?
<0> this laptop has overheated at least one hard disk
<11> very good
<11> doesn't have a therm on the hd?
<0> hardware control seems to have failed
<0> in windows ive been using speed fan to control it manually
<11> opensuse will do it too
<5> my favorate thing about linux is the dialog package
<5> it makes shell scripting so much better than windows batch scripting
<11> i kinda agree and kinda disagree
<5> how so?
<11> i enjoy batch scripting because it was the first i learned
<11> but i do wholeheartedly agree that the linux shell script has far more possibilties
<5> How do I stop unauthorised use of my server in terms of email abuse? (like how do I stop unauthorised people from using it to send mail?)
<12> shut it down
<2> whitecap
<12> you're too clueless to secure it
<12> OldMonk: hiya
<12> OldMonk: cheeksy, tsokolat, and ksh also knew of her condition but not the outcome
<2> :)
<5> i got it
<5> with tls, too
<5> do you say Im clueless because I didn't read something before asking the question in this channel?
<12> benkillin: no, because you stared a server without securing it first
<5> ok, Ill grant you that
<5> wait, I dont thiink I used that phrase correctly
<5> **** it
<5> but you're right
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