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<0> Let me guess: You don't even run Linux!
<0> You sell blue carpet, right?
<1> is that likc macos?
<2> no, camels!
<3> NotDigital: At the moment, no. :p
<2> oh, sorry. We sell camels too, not just blue carpet.
<3> NotDigital: ask me again when Im logged into on of my servers. :p
<4> s/power/voltage/
<5> ok yeah I have to short the thing.. If I don't say anything in about 10 minutes someone call the EMT's
<6> PolarWolf: let me know next time you're in SL :)
<7> I'd like to know which x window system I should use on a laptop for maximum batterie usage (low ressource x window system)
<2> schitzo: it's usual to power up for less than 20 secs...
<3> K_F: You're in St. Louis?
<8> Ph1L643: its all X...
<0> ph1l: Well, there's only one X server that anyone really uses these days, called X.org.
<2> Ph1L643: put it in 8 bit.



<0> ph1l: What you do to get good battery life is tweak X.org's powersave options, such as turning off the monitor after a few minutes of inactivity, _not_ running some screensaver that eats 100% CPU, etc...
<7> that's not what I meant
<3> Ph1L643: X its self isnt what kills the battery fast, its all the other **** thats run on top of it
<8> Ph1L643: its what you asked though.
<7> I meant like.. should I use KDE, Enlightenment, or whatever !?
<8> Ph1L643: doesn't matter.
<2> ahh. You meant Window Manager.
<6> syn-ack: hehe
<7> yeah ok window manger
<7> **manager
<3> Ph1L643: I would use Ratposion.
<2> Go for BlackBox - less screen updates.
<0> ph1l: If you want to set up good powersaving without ****ing around with a bunch of configuration, GNOME has a pretty straightforward interface for setting up powersave.
<2> not that THAT would change things much.
<8> Ph1L643: I'd say use whatever interface you like best, then simply tweak it to make it as plain as possible.
<3> and yes, I know Ratpoison is for eMacs lovers. :p
<7> I'd like to use Enlightenment though.. but don't know if that would be a good choice for maximizing my batterie usage
<2> Gawd.
<2> I like E here, but I'm on a desktop.
<0> ph1l: the window manager you choose is not going to have much impact on your battery usage.
<7> NotDigital ok thank you
<3> E is short for evil.
<0> ph1l: So you might as well choose whatever you're comfortable with.
<5> ok yeah. I think this PSU is dead
<2> syn-ack: heh heh... then that explains what makes it so popular
<0> ph1l: It's the operating-system level power saving options, like disk spin-down and CPU governor, that will allow you to get the most bang for your battery buck.
<2> schitzo: huh? Fan not going around? No 5V/12V supplies?
<5> Viking667: yeah, no power supplied and fan doesn't spin. when greeen/black shorted
<0> schitzo: maybe you have a roasted fuse like I do.
<5> NotDigital: it doesn't have a fuse. unless it's internal
<5> NotDigital: no external fuse thingy
<0> schitzo: it's internal.
<0> it always is.
<7> NotDigital ok thank you
<2> fuse is ALWAYS internal.
<3> Lion-O!
<5> NotDigital: man, now your going to make me take this thing all apart
<0> And most of the time it's soldered inside, so you have to desolder it to replace it. I guess they would much rather you just buy another $40 PSU rather than a $0.10 fuse.
<8> syn-ack!
<3> Lion-O: Howsit?
<0> schitzo: You caught my warning earlier about not electrocuting yourself, right?
<5> NotDigital: i've messed with power supplies before like this. four years of electronics in HS.. Just don't remember much since it was like.. uhhhh
<5> NotDigital: almost 20 years ago
<3> schitzo: Speaking of which, I give your company all the kudos in the world for that stunt in Boston. :)
<2> bloody stupid, if you ask me.
<5> syn-ack: boston people are stupid. at least law enforcement.
<4> NotDigital so far every replaced fuse resulted in some more damage in the ps - at least for me
<0> schitzo: Well. Capacitors store power. The ones in power supplies store a lot. So don't touch anything metal that you don't need to.
<8> syn-ack: busy checking up on a run amok webserver.. We have 3 webservers, 2 are putting in some heavy work while the other hardly does anything. SO I'm planning/preparing for some serious re-designing. Perhaps even checking up on load distribution/clustering. IOW: doing some work :) You?
<2> NotDigital: or discharge them...
<3> schitzo: tell me about it. Just a shame your boss stepped down.
<0> tojoe: In my case I actually shorted the PS and the fuse blew, I'm thinking for a straightforward failure like that replacing the fuse should be enough.
<2> hopefully.
<3> Lion-O: Not much, just sitting the ****ing cold.
<8> syn-ack: blech :/
<9> hello loonixites
<4> hmm, that should be caught by the secondary overcurrent protection and not the primary main fuse :p
<3> Lion-O: I cant even go outside without freezing my nuts off in 20 seconds.
<2> schitzo: it's quite often a white cylinder metal-capped, not always obviously gl***.
<0> tojoe: Well, all I know is that after I did it it doesn't turn on anymore.



<8> syn-ack: fun!
<3> Lion-O: Tell me about it
<0> tojoe: If you can suggest something else I should look at while I have it apart I'd appreciate it.
<9> syn-ack: where you at?
<3> libolt: Monee, IL
<4> not really, i never bothered to repair them besides replacing leaking caps
<2> NotDigital: err, if you've blown MORE than one fuse on that psu, I'd be VERY wary...
<9> syn-ack: ah fun, still working for that one company or are you driving for Fed Ex now?
<5> Viking667: it's a gl*** one.. but it's not clear and cloudy
<10> syn-ack, is that pronounced as Money?
<5> it looks like the fuse is good though
<10> Or as in Monet, the artist?
<2> schitzo: right. unclip/unsolder one end, do a continuity test...
<3> Prolly the latter, I have no clue what the French did in these parts
<10> haha
<3> libolt: Still at DSW
<5> Viking667: it's soldered in and I don't have a soldering iron
<0> tojoe: Well, I was a university student until quite recently and I have yet to stop being extremely cheap.
<2> schitzo: eww.
<5> Viking667: I'm going to bet the PSU is toast and just go get another one.
<0> So the idea of replacing a $0.10 fuse instead ofa a $40 PSU is appealing to me.
<2> schitzo: stash it aside, go get a new one.
<9> syn-ack: ah things going any better?
<4> NotDigital good luck
<0> Plus, replacing the fuse will give me a chance to needlessly risk electrical shock.
<3> Steakk: I was thinking it was "MO-Knee"
<10> Mo Knee...heh
<5> Viking667: it's a 400W.. I can go up to a 500W too since I just tossed another HD into this machine right?
<3> libolt: I dont really want to be OTR anymore.
<2> what blew the fuse to begin with?
<10> schitzo, you can throw a 1kw in there if you wanted to...you wont fry anything
<0> viking: are you asking me, or schitzo?
<10> the rails from the PSU are regulated, so a bigger PSU wont hurt anything
<9> syn-ack: tired of all the driving?
<3> libolt: Just trying to keep out of the politics of this place really.
<2> I'm askingchitzo:
<5> I'll see about getting a 500W one.
<9> ah I see that ****s
<3> libolt: Im tired of never having a life and being home, really
<2> schitzo: yeah. What caused the PSU to fail, to begin with?
<3> libolt: If I could do this **** casually, that would be great
<5> Viking667: beats me.. Maybe pulling the power cable wihout flipping the switch to off
<2> ummm.... possible.
<5> Viking667: that or it was just old and adding in another HD overloaded it?
<9> syn-ack: Yeah I know someone else that got that way, he went from trucking to running a limo service so that he wasn't driving cross country all the time
<5> it's a cheap-o HugeBee PSU
<2> again, possible.
<2> what else do you have on the rails?
<5> Viking667: two HD's (now) DVD, CD, floppy, motherboard two fans.. CPU
<3> libolt: yeah, I dont think I would make as good of a living doing that though. Here when Im running well, I make over a grand a week
<2> hm. whoop de do. What CPU and mobo? What do they **** up in power?
<5> Viking667: Nvidia card.. some USB ****..
<5> Viking667: uhhhh. P4 2.1 Ghz on a .. er, motherboard.
<2> might do it.
<3> libolt: where are you going to find a job that you can sit on your ***, do a minimal amount of work and get paid that well?
<2> I know that P4s **** some power...
<3> Other than going back into IT////
<9> syn-ack: CEO? :)
<3> hahaha
<0> sitting on your *** doing nothing getting paid well sounds boring.
<5> Viking667: yeah, I bet the new 100 Gb drive was what did it maybe. I'll just go and get something with some more wattage and stick in there and hope it works.
<3> NotDigital: I dont have time to get bored.
<9> yeah I hear you though
<2> You want to leave a little headroom for adding stuff like that.
<3> NotDigital: Despite what you think, Driving for 11 - 14 hours takes a LOT out of you
<0> syn: I don't think anything, I've never driven a car even.
<3> Especially when the weather ****.
<5> Viking667: yup. this should be the last thing I add into this box though.
<3> NotDigital: Heh, Forgot that m*** transit actually works in .ca ;)
<5> Viking667: I've had this wintel machine for a while. so it might have been built just to what it needed.
<0> schitzo: Might I suggest that if you do decide to replace the PS, you might want to splurge and get quality. A fancy high-end PS is still rather cheap.
<3> libolt: Ive also considered becoming a bus driver. :p
<0> syn-ack: It doesn't really work very well where I am.


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