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<0> Let me guess: You don't even run Linux! <0> You sell blue carpet, right? <1> is that likc macos? <2> no, camels! <3> NotDigital: At the moment, no. :p <2> oh, sorry. We sell camels too, not just blue carpet. <3> NotDigital: ask me again when Im logged into on of my servers. :p <4> s/power/voltage/ <5> ok yeah I have to short the thing.. If I don't say anything in about 10 minutes someone call the EMT's <6> PolarWolf: let me know next time you're in SL :) <7> I'd like to know which x window system I should use on a laptop for maximum batterie usage (low ressource x window system) <2> schitzo: it's usual to power up for less than 20 secs... <3> K_F: You're in St. Louis? <8> Ph1L643: its all X... <0> ph1l: Well, there's only one X server that anyone really uses these days, called X.org. <2> Ph1L643: put it in 8 bit.
<0> ph1l: What you do to get good battery life is tweak X.org's powersave options, such as turning off the monitor after a few minutes of inactivity, _not_ running some screensaver that eats 100% CPU, etc... <7> that's not what I meant <3> Ph1L643: X its self isnt what kills the battery fast, its all the other **** thats run on top of it <8> Ph1L643: its what you asked though. <7> I meant like.. should I use KDE, Enlightenment, or whatever !? <8> Ph1L643: doesn't matter. <2> ahh. You meant Window Manager. <6> syn-ack: hehe <7> yeah ok window manger <7> **manager <3> Ph1L643: I would use Ratposion. <2> Go for BlackBox - less screen updates. <0> ph1l: If you want to set up good powersaving without ****ing around with a bunch of configuration, GNOME has a pretty straightforward interface for setting up powersave. <2> not that THAT would change things much. <8> Ph1L643: I'd say use whatever interface you like best, then simply tweak it to make it as plain as possible. <3> and yes, I know Ratpoison is for eMacs lovers. :p <7> I'd like to use Enlightenment though.. but don't know if that would be a good choice for maximizing my batterie usage <2> Gawd. <2> I like E here, but I'm on a desktop. <0> ph1l: the window manager you choose is not going to have much impact on your battery usage. <7> NotDigital ok thank you <3> E is short for evil. <0> ph1l: So you might as well choose whatever you're comfortable with. <5> ok yeah. I think this PSU is dead <2> syn-ack: heh heh... then that explains what makes it so popular <0> ph1l: It's the operating-system level power saving options, like disk spin-down and CPU governor, that will allow you to get the most bang for your battery buck. <2> schitzo: huh? Fan not going around? No 5V/12V supplies? <5> Viking667: yeah, no power supplied and fan doesn't spin. when greeen/black shorted <0> schitzo: maybe you have a roasted fuse like I do. <5> NotDigital: it doesn't have a fuse. unless it's internal <5> NotDigital: no external fuse thingy <0> schitzo: it's internal. <0> it always is. <7> NotDigital ok thank you <2> fuse is ALWAYS internal. <3> Lion-O! <5> NotDigital: man, now your going to make me take this thing all apart <0> And most of the time it's soldered inside, so you have to desolder it to replace it. I guess they would much rather you just buy another $40 PSU rather than a $0.10 fuse. <8> syn-ack! <3> Lion-O: Howsit? <0> schitzo: You caught my warning earlier about not electrocuting yourself, right? <5> NotDigital: i've messed with power supplies before like this. four years of electronics in HS.. Just don't remember much since it was like.. uhhhh <5> NotDigital: almost 20 years ago <3> schitzo: Speaking of which, I give your company all the kudos in the world for that stunt in Boston. :) <2> bloody stupid, if you ask me. <5> syn-ack: boston people are stupid. at least law enforcement. <4> NotDigital so far every replaced fuse resulted in some more damage in the ps - at least for me <0> schitzo: Well. Capacitors store power. The ones in power supplies store a lot. So don't touch anything metal that you don't need to. <8> syn-ack: busy checking up on a run amok webserver.. We have 3 webservers, 2 are putting in some heavy work while the other hardly does anything. SO I'm planning/preparing for some serious re-designing. Perhaps even checking up on load distribution/clustering. IOW: doing some work :) You? <2> NotDigital: or discharge them... <3> schitzo: tell me about it. Just a shame your boss stepped down. <0> tojoe: In my case I actually shorted the PS and the fuse blew, I'm thinking for a straightforward failure like that replacing the fuse should be enough. <2> hopefully. <3> Lion-O: Not much, just sitting the ****ing cold. <8> syn-ack: blech :/ <9> hello loonixites <4> hmm, that should be caught by the secondary overcurrent protection and not the primary main fuse :p <3> Lion-O: I cant even go outside without freezing my nuts off in 20 seconds. <2> schitzo: it's quite often a white cylinder metal-capped, not always obviously gl***. <0> tojoe: Well, all I know is that after I did it it doesn't turn on anymore.
<8> syn-ack: fun! <3> Lion-O: Tell me about it <0> tojoe: If you can suggest something else I should look at while I have it apart I'd appreciate it. <9> syn-ack: where you at? <3> libolt: Monee, IL <4> not really, i never bothered to repair them besides replacing leaking caps <2> NotDigital: err, if you've blown MORE than one fuse on that psu, I'd be VERY wary... <9> syn-ack: ah fun, still working for that one company or are you driving for Fed Ex now? <5> Viking667: it's a gl*** one.. but it's not clear and cloudy <10> syn-ack, is that pronounced as Money? <5> it looks like the fuse is good though <10> Or as in Monet, the artist? <2> schitzo: right. unclip/unsolder one end, do a continuity test... <3> Prolly the latter, I have no clue what the French did in these parts <10> haha <3> libolt: Still at DSW <5> Viking667: it's soldered in and I don't have a soldering iron <0> tojoe: Well, I was a university student until quite recently and I have yet to stop being extremely cheap. <2> schitzo: eww. <5> Viking667: I'm going to bet the PSU is toast and just go get another one. <0> So the idea of replacing a $0.10 fuse instead ofa a $40 PSU is appealing to me. <2> schitzo: stash it aside, go get a new one. <9> syn-ack: ah things going any better? <4> NotDigital good luck <0> Plus, replacing the fuse will give me a chance to needlessly risk electrical shock. <3> Steakk: I was thinking it was "MO-Knee" <10> Mo Knee...heh <5> Viking667: it's a 400W.. I can go up to a 500W too since I just tossed another HD into this machine right? <3> libolt: I dont really want to be OTR anymore. <2> what blew the fuse to begin with? <10> schitzo, you can throw a 1kw in there if you wanted to...you wont fry anything <0> viking: are you asking me, or schitzo? <10> the rails from the PSU are regulated, so a bigger PSU wont hurt anything <9> syn-ack: tired of all the driving? <3> libolt: Just trying to keep out of the politics of this place really. <2> I'm askingchitzo: <5> I'll see about getting a 500W one. <9> ah I see that ****s <3> libolt: Im tired of never having a life and being home, really <2> schitzo: yeah. What caused the PSU to fail, to begin with? <3> libolt: If I could do this **** casually, that would be great <5> Viking667: beats me.. Maybe pulling the power cable wihout flipping the switch to off <2> ummm.... possible. <5> Viking667: that or it was just old and adding in another HD overloaded it? <9> syn-ack: Yeah I know someone else that got that way, he went from trucking to running a limo service so that he wasn't driving cross country all the time <5> it's a cheap-o HugeBee PSU <2> again, possible. <2> what else do you have on the rails? <5> Viking667: two HD's (now) DVD, CD, floppy, motherboard two fans.. CPU <3> libolt: yeah, I dont think I would make as good of a living doing that though. Here when Im running well, I make over a grand a week <2> hm. whoop de do. What CPU and mobo? What do they **** up in power? <5> Viking667: Nvidia card.. some USB ****.. <5> Viking667: uhhhh. P4 2.1 Ghz on a .. er, motherboard. <2> might do it. <3> libolt: where are you going to find a job that you can sit on your ***, do a minimal amount of work and get paid that well? <2> I know that P4s **** some power... <3> Other than going back into IT//// <9> syn-ack: CEO? :) <3> hahaha <0> sitting on your *** doing nothing getting paid well sounds boring. <5> Viking667: yeah, I bet the new 100 Gb drive was what did it maybe. I'll just go and get something with some more wattage and stick in there and hope it works. <3> NotDigital: I dont have time to get bored. <9> yeah I hear you though <2> You want to leave a little headroom for adding stuff like that. <3> NotDigital: Despite what you think, Driving for 11 - 14 hours takes a LOT out of you <0> syn: I don't think anything, I've never driven a car even. <3> Especially when the weather ****. <5> Viking667: yup. this should be the last thing I add into this box though. <3> NotDigital: Heh, Forgot that m*** transit actually works in .ca ;) <5> Viking667: I've had this wintel machine for a while. so it might have been built just to what it needed. <0> schitzo: Might I suggest that if you do decide to replace the PS, you might want to splurge and get quality. A fancy high-end PS is still rather cheap. <3> libolt: Ive also considered becoming a bus driver. :p <0> syn-ack: It doesn't really work very well where I am.
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