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<0> http://junk.****software.com/Xorg.0.log
<0> 1600x1200, but no 1280x768
<1> java parlance calls the data in a cl*** a "field". why dont they use the term "variable". is there any thing that stores data taht is not a variable?
<2> Muir: sure
<3> smsie: That's not quite what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that if I wish to prevent something, I should be able to do it technically, thus removing the "policy enforcement" bit.
<2> Muir: a field can be constant
<2> whyzzyrd: this is the real world...
<3> smsie: We've no time to enforce a policy.
<1> hmm ok
<2> whyzzyrd: it would be wonderful if everyone was nice...
<0> :/
<3> smsie: I currently fix it by disabling edge ports. The users get the hint.
<2> :)
<2> whyzzyrd: whatever works for you
<3> smsie: I just find it ridiculous that our users can click "I agree" on something that they've no right to.
<2> whyzzyrd: click through is silly anyway



<3> smsie: that indeed.
<4> Ratty_: dunno, im stumped, just for fun, put "1280x768" in all the bit depths in your config
<0> it is
<0> but it won't use it
<3> qube: there'll be no modeline for it
<4> Ratty_: in the config it only has it listed in the 24 bit subsection
<4> the config you posted the link to anyway
<0> oh, well i don't use hte other colour modes, but ok
<4> ya, it shouldnt matter, but im out of ideas
<0> still the same
<0> :(
<3> hmm. just got an email from a colleague asking if you can download replacement magic smoke from Cisco's website.
<5> ahahah
<0> what does Option "backingstore" do?
<3> Ratty_: I should say RTFM, but it allows the graphics card to store what's behind a window
<0> there's a manual?
<6> Hi, when using SCP to copy files to a remote server, is there an option to exclude a certain directory? I've looked through man page, can't see anything.
<7> Jakes: then I guess there isn't.
<8> Benziiiiiiin.
<9> Jakes: probably not. Try using tar to wrap it up into a single file and scp that.
<6> RelDrgn, yup doing that now
<3> Ratty_: there's vast quantites of documentation for X.
<0> my next card shall be nvidia
<6> Lion-O, might be a useful patch...
<6> instead of using tar first.
<3> Ratty_: I can almost guarantee that the problem exists between your keyboard and your chair.
<7> Jakes: I disagree, but hey; nothing stopping you from writing one ;)
<0> mum-ra could kill lion-o in a proper fight
<6> heh
<0> whyzzyrd: it's a simple conf, and no one else can see any faults with it
<9> you can even do pretty neat things like tar c otherflags dir | scp foo@bar -c 'tar x' (***uming tar's default is stdin/stdout, some systems tar's default is to try and write to tape
<7> Ratty_: if you're trying to be funny then I suggest you can it while its still your choice.
<3> Ratty_: You should look at creating a modeline for the mode you wish to run.
<0> i have a modeline for it: Modeline "1280x768" 73.78 1280 1312 1592 1624 768 783 790 805 +hsync +vsync
<9> Ratty_: and your specified refresh rates allow for that modeline?
<0> should do
<7> fredk_: benzin ?
<3> Ratty_: turn off DDC.
<0> how do i do that
<3> your screen doesn't claim to support 1280x768 as a resolution on the detect.
<3> Ratty_: It's a long time since I did. I'm sure it's in the manual.
<0> which manual?
<3> Ratty_: look in your Xorg log around the "libddc.a"
<3> Ratty_: X has extensive documentation.
<0> okie dokie
<9> heh, that's pretty dangerous though. if the monitor supports DDC (which it appears to), then if it's not returning 1280x768, it doesn't support it.
<3> RelDrgn: He says it works in XP.
<0> reldrgn: works in windows, and says in the manual it supports it
<3> Ratty_: You ought to take good heed of what RelDrgn said.
<3> Ratty_: is that a HDTV screen?
<0> yes
<0> yup
<10> poof
<0> 1280x768 hfreq 47.78KJz vfreq 60Hz
<0> J=H
<0> i commented out Load "dcc" from my xorg, but it still seems to load it
<3> Ratty_: the root of the problem will be that the screen doesn't claim to support that mode.
<0> hmm
<3> Ratty_: however, you ought to look up how to disable DDC.



<3> Ratty_: I believe it can be done, we've done for SDL for our installer splashscreens at work.
<3> Ratty_: but then, they're not X.
<0> :/
<3> Ratty_: google for override DDC Xorg eh?
<0> i've disabled it
<0> still can't get it to work though
<3> is the log different now though?
<7> I guess you should dive a little more into the inner workings of x.org then.
<0> hmm, well i put Option "DDC" "off" in, but maybe that didn't do the job
<3> Ratty_: you didn't sodding google did you.
<0> google is god
<3> Ratty_: I even told you what to put in it.
<7> Tamahome: hola
<11> Peter
<0> does ne work
<9> ratty: I put what whyzzyrd told you to put in google, and I don't even have to click on the ****ing link, the little snippet on the first hit tells me how to do it.
<11> heya Fred
<0> all it says is put option "nodcc" "1" in, which doesn't work
<3> RelDrgn: That's no coincidence. It was my first attempt at googling the problem.
<3> Ratty_: You need it in the right place.
<3> anyway. I've had enough of buffoons.
<0> it's in device, monitor and screen
<3> muck fee
<9> Ratty_: then put in dfajkljefj3klfj3klfjk3ljdklsafj and see if you're even editing the right file
<9> afternoon, Sean
<0> err
<3> RelDrgn: heh, I never thought of that.
<0> whatever
<9> hm rain.
<11> I ****ing hate doing resumes
<12> somebody can help me ? excuse me for my bad english.
<3> no. behind every great computer sits a great fat geek with a beer.
<2> I prefer coke
<3> smsie: each to his own.
<11> and I hate pissy 19 year olds who like to slam doors
<2> and I'm not really "great" :)
<11> beer > YOU
<2> I *am* a fat geek though :)
<3> smsie: Ahh, but how many pints of coke can you drink before wanting to go piss?
<2> whyzzyrd: pints? I count in 2l bottles!
<11> ewwwwwwww
<3> smsie: I used to go out drinking with a guy that didn't drink alcohol, and he used to match us pint for pint with coke.
<11> even I don't drink that much
<2> would be 3l bottles, but no supermarkets around me sell those
<11> smsie: your teeth must be disgusting :P
<2> Tamahome: fairly
<3> smsie: We were forever amazed that he could go 10 pints, and not go piss.
<12> somebody has installed a email's server ?
<2> whyzzyrd: ah, I couldn;t do that
<8> smsie, great is very dependingon who you compare to
<7> Uknow: everyone who has installed Linux has.
<2> fredk_: true
<3> smsie: When I was a student, there was a guy I knew drank so much irn bru, he started turning orange.
<2> whyzzyrd: hehe. The "coke" of Scotland...it's GREAT stuff for a hangover
<3> smsie: that it is.
<11> what the blazes is irn bru?
<3> smsie: I presume it's fairly easily obtainable down there, in gl*** bottles?
<3> smsie: it's nicest in gl*** bottles.
<2> Tamahome: umm, a soft drink (well, a HARD soft drink :)
<3> Tamahome: "Made in Scotland from Girders" is what it is.
<2> whyzzyrd: I've not seen it in gl*** bottles don here...and to be honest, it doesn't seem to carry the same kick down here either
<3> smsie: It's not as kicky as I remember it being when I was a kid.
<2> whyzzyrd: yeah...I think everything's like that though
<2> whyzzyrd: I'm *SURE* wagon wheels used to be about 50% bigger than they currently are
<3> smsie: That's because they *are* smaller now.
<11> gwah... PHP quoting drives me bat****
<3> smsie: If you go to a museum and see an old wagon wheel pack, they're huge in comparison.
<2> whyzzyrd: I thought I was just bigger
<3> A wagon wheel is very little larger than a jammie dodger now.
<2> they keep wagon wheel packs in museums?
<2> I'm old, certainly
<2> I recall when snickers used to be called marathon
<2> I remember a time before the 20 pence piece, and before the pound coin


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