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<0> Heh, there was a time I was working 3 jobs, 96hrs/week, no one even wanted to give me a try back then
<1> But, she just trots along to the lab with me
<1> Am I the only person who hasn't upgraded to 802.11G
<2> Hey. Does anyone have any experience with OSS (sound) programming?
<3> synapsis if ya don`t need your gf, give it to me ::)
<4> "it" ?
<0> I flat out refuse to go wireless.
<3> :D
<5> rothkoUK: given the fact that OSS is being replaced by ALSA, i'd suggest learning ALSA instead
<1> rothkoUK: quite a long *** time ago
<4> JavraDinMine: I suggest you behave a little more mature in here or else..
<2> RelDrgn - no can do, this is for an embedded device..
<1> rothkoUK: What device?
<3> ok Lion-O i was just joking sry
<2> archos PMA
<0> I have very capable cable runners throughout my house and a drop ceiling, so I'm not going to worry about it.
<1> rothkoUK: Ah. What are you trying to do?
<6> JavraDinMine: I'll give something to you, but it'll be sharp and made from steel.
<4> JavraDinMine: I don't recall asking you to msg me. Keep it in the channel thank you very much.
<2> record sound. I open up /dev/dsp, and read from it - but I get just zero.
<7> JavraDinMine: and last time I checked "sry" wasn't a word.
<2> as far as I know it's all set up right, volumes, recording levels, etc
<1> rothkoUK: This is using the internal recording program?
<3> synapsis i like only "steel gl***es" that contain magic drinks
<5> hm, that should work, I know catting /dev/dsp will show something happening if the mic is picking up noise
<2> no, I'm writing some software that needs to record as part of it
<1> Ah
<5> it may be that the archos hardware has separate hardware for input and output. Got a /dev/dsp[0123etc]? try the other ones?
<8> reality_: I've still got 11b in the house. mostly apathy, and the sensible realisation that it'll never be as quick as 100M wired ethernet..
<2> nope - just /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer (which are links to /sound/dsp and /sound/mixer) nothing else.
<5> rothkoUK: no other entries in /sound/ then? :P
<2> nope. just those 2
<1> And /sound/dsp isn't linked?
<5> rothkoUK: interesting. tried running a mixer program to make sure that input is not muted, and that the microphone is selected as the input? (or maybe this uses line in?)
<2> volumes are non-zero
<2> and the microphone is the input source
<2> and the record level is non-zero too
<5> rothkoUK: try line in then
<2> i've tried all the input sources :)
<1> Your code is b0rked :-)
<2> uhuh :)
<9> http://www.kissfm.ro/valentines_vote.php?vote=378&da=DA+%3A-%29
<6> JavraDinMine: Didn't someone already tell you about sending msgs?
<10> is he sending /msgs to other users?
<2> i got one
<3> ok,i understand, i must use the channel
<1> rothkoUK: Have you perused the OSS programming guide?
<3> i need some help
<10> JavraDinMine : www.herpeshelp.com
<1> JavraDinMine: This ain't a help channel
<8> JavraDinMine: and why do you think we're the people to help you?
<8> JavraDinMine: www.hetracil.com
<3> i would like to try a linux os instead of win xp
<3> can you recommend me one?
<1> JavraDinMine: Linux is not for you. You can't follow basic instructions.
<2> reality_ : uhuh - I've done everything in the guide that I think is relevant.
<2> I can't find a really simple OSS recording example though
<2> I found one which uses OSS 4.0, but I've only got access to 3.6, and there's quite a bit of new stuff.
<1> rothkoUK: It's been way to long since I've even looked at OSS to help ya
<8> rothkoUK: Why are you using an old version of a deprecated system?
<2> it's all i've got access to - that's what's on this device.
<1> whyzzyrd: embedded device
<2> I'd rather not try to recompile the kernel and add ALSA support
<10> win 3
<11> I've got to ***ume it works over http
<8> probably tunnel on any ****ing anything like skype.
<11> indeed.
<2> oh well, thanks for the suggestions guys :)
<8> rate-limit to 4kbit/second per users. VoIP over that.
<10> D-side: I think it's all ajax.
<11> schitzo: i'm looking at it and thinking the same thing.
<11> schitzo: which i have to say is damn impressive.
<8> can anyone think of another way to block users from using skype?
<12> Excluding brutal mutilation?
<10> D-side: yeah I just don't know how they do the queue of stuff. I know all how XMPP works, so their XSLT AJAX crap will fix that
<10> D-side: just the msg queue to client is what I needt o look at.. whenever I see it on my gmail account
<8> PolarWolf: yes. Excluding brutal mutilation.
<12> whyzzyrd: Block the ports? ;)
<8> PolarWolf : Yeah. I'll block 80. ;-P
<12> whyzzyrd: l7filter? :)
<13> whyzzyrd: proxy-only and heavily limit the proxy
<8> PolarWolf: problem I have is with skype's EULA.
<8> smsie: apparently, it tunnels through proxies on 443, so if you want to allow https, skype gets through.
<13> whyzzyrd: ouch
<8> smsie: It's an absolute bitch to block apparently, and now there's no pre-defined supernodes.
<13> whyzzyrd: hmm...only allow the proxy to resolve names...
<14> whyzzyrd: does it listen on an ***igned port?
<8> smsie: Someone ought to stop people writing applications that are specifically designed to circumvent security polices.
<8> qube: not AFAIK.
<13> whyzzyrd: hmm, there are two schools of thought on that one :)
<8> smsie: Port 80 is for http. Nothing else should use it. Ever. period.
<8> bbias, cup o tea.
<13> whyzzyrd: I agree, but I reserve the right to walk around any security which inconveniences me personally. Blocking stuff is fine for users, I should be allowed to do what I like
<15> hi
<15> i'm trying to send 1280x768@60hz to my monitor, but i can't get xorg to allow it, i'm using fglrx on a radeon x800pro, any ideas what's wrong? my xorg.conf is : http://junk.****software.com/xorg.conf
<16> does your monitor handle it?
<15> yes
<15> works in windows
<15> it's not even sending it to the monitor. 1600x1200 works, but my monitor says out of range
<15> skips right over 1280x768
<16> hrm.
<16> could be the framerate X is trying to use.
<15> :|
<8> smsie: If it's your network, and you're the network manager, you should be able to block anything you like. Applications should respect that if they're firewalled, they just don't work.
<15> so... any ideas of a fix?
<14> Ratty_: what does your xorg log say? it'll list a lot of resolutions and whether or not they could be used, that one should be in the list somewhere
<15> i'll take a look
<15> dumb question, but what's the name of xorgs log
<7> Ratty_: find /var/log | grep -i xorg
<14> /var/log/xorg.0.log
<15> oh uppercase X
<13> whyzzyrd: it should be up to a network manager to be able to block stuff, sure. But anything a user *can* do, they're allowed to. IOf you want to ban skype, then that's a policy issue, not a technical one
<15> it doesn't list 1280x768
<14> odd
<8> smsie: no. Just because something *can* be done, doesn't mean it's permitted.
<15> the highest is: (**) fglrx(1): *Mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz
<13> whyzzyrd: sure, but that's a policy issue, not a technical one
<8> smsie: you *can* drive your car at 100mph round the M25. It's not permitted.
<13> whyzzyrd: of course. The solution is NOT to ban cars that can travel at 100mph
<13> the solution is to punish those who drive at that speed
<6> The solution is to let all the people who can't handle that speed be victims of natural selection.
<13> in THIS case, the solution is not to firewall skype out of existence...it's to punish those who use it despite a policy that says you shouldn't
<8> synapsis: that indeed.
<13> since, in fact, it isn't practically possible to firewall skype
<8> smsie: But what if our luser user services dept won't write that policy, even though skype's EULA breaches our terms & conditions.
<13> whyzzyrd: it's still a policy issue, not a technical one
<8> smsie: I, as network manager, should be able to prevent it working.
<8> smsie: no. It's a technical one. If I put in a restriction, applications shouldn't tunnel round it. It's wrong.
<13> whyzzyrd: if there WERE a sane way to stop skype working without impacting on other stuff, then fine, use it. There isn't, so it's a policy issue
<13> whyzzyrd: applications DO tunnel around it. That's social, NOT technical
<13> whyzzyrd: technical is "I've blocked this port, therefore nothing can use this port"
<8> smsie: We're not going to agree on this.
<15> could it just be that fglrx drivers are **** and don't support 1280x768?
<13> social is "I'm saying skype is not allowed, no matter WHAT means it uses to circumvent me"
<8> Ratty_: probably not. It's more likely that you're ****, and haven't configured it right.
<15> hmm
<14> wow, arent we friendly
<15> i can't see any errors in my xorg
<14> can you dump your log to somewhere i can see it (not here of course)
<15> k
<13> whyzzyrd: saying "it's not fair because someone can circumvent my firewalling" is silly. Someone will ALWAYS be able to unless you lock up so tight as to be useless
<15> http://junk.****software.com/Xorg.0.log
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