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<0> Vonkanari: Nor do I.
<1> Mac OS X Intel, Mac OS X PPC, Kubuntu 6.06
<2> Lion-O seems to have poked Ubuntu a little bit lately
<0> he's running Linux! get him!
<2> but seeing as he is the 500, that is good enough alibi for the rest of us :P
<3> Nanuq: mt-daapd in conjunction with iTunes
<0> D-side: that tells me nothing
<4> damnit
<0> TBT
<4> OS X is gimping up with my samba server on linux
<3> Nanuq: i'm confused as to what you could possibly mean.
<5> re
<0> D-side: wtf mt-daapd is
<0> OM
<4> mt-daapd is how you share your AAC library out to a machine with itunes
<3> Nanuq: i could have sworn you were the one i was talking to about this. its an itunes server.
<0> why the **** would you?
<5> Nanuq
<0> could never understand that feature
<4> okay
<3> TenBaseT: i'm considering just installing itunes on my box and running mt-daapd on the server, so gf and i can share our libraries.
<0> oh well why would I? I'd run the real deal.
<0> though I haven't used iTunes in about two years.
<4> IF YOU DONT USE ITUNES SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE NOW THIS CONVERSATION DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU
<2> CAPS IS GOOF SO LISTEN TO TENBASET
<2> GOOD
<0> Not presently.
<4> haha
<5> JOSTEIN IS RIFHT!
<3> Jostein: looks more like Jostein == goof
<0> TenBaseT: Back when I did, the feature was useless to me.
<0> TenBaseT: Still is, in concept and in practice.
<4> if you have 3 or 4 computers that want to use itunes, keeping the library synched up between them is hard.
<2> D-side: o noz
<3> Jostein: 4REALZ
<0> TenBaseT: I could never understand the concept of music libraries.
<3> thats because you have no friends and no one would ever want to cohabitate with you. :D
<0> TenBaseT: Files exist. Files get selected to be played. Music is heard.
<4> I buy music from tines. My wife buys music from itunes. We dont buy the same music
<4> I rip music. She rips music. We dont rip the same music
<3> word.
<1> Together
<1> You could rip a hole in the space time continuum!
<4> so I dont want her **** on my PC all the time.
<4> but sometimes I do want to listen to it
<4> so we each throw all our **** up to the fileserver, which is the logical place to keep a 40GB pile of **** if you dont want it to go away when you accidentally pull your laptop off the coffee table
<2> I realize there may be more to this than simply accessing a folder over the network and open the file, but I dont see the big deal about iTunes
<0> Jostein: thank you :P
<4> itunes does 2 things for me: 1. syncs my ipod. 2. keeps me from having to worry about the filestructure of the library
<3> indeed.
<3> sorting, etc.
<4> I've for like 9000 tracks in there. I'm tired of making directories and sorting ****
<2> TenBaseT: 1. dont have an ipod, 2. so does any other player these days :P
<3> 1) STBY, 2) BZZT WRONG
<0> Jostein: I let the filesystem worry about that. I load up what I want when I want it.
<2> D-side: define wrong
<3> Jostein: you.
<3> :D
<2> I use foobar. I have a full library of my music there. based on metadata. so could winamp do ages ago. so can amarok and god knows any player thats around these days, apart from mplayer console :P
<3> well thats true.
<3> amarok is pretty damn good when its not falling over dead screaming "i'm comin' lisbeth'
<2> lol
<1> lol
<0> Jostein: wasn't until foobar2k I saw the use of playlists. even still I tend not to maintain them, esp in winamp.
<0> Jostein: like I said, I let the filesystem manage that
<0> Jostein: of course, it's exactly like the gigs of ebooks I have.
<0> Jostein: I never actually listen to the tunes I have available
<0> Jostein: they're just _there_
<2> lol
<6> Nanuq: Cause you never know when you might need some obscure ebook on Himalayan Yak Breeding or something.
<4> "letting the filesystem handle that" is like saying "let 8086 ***embler handle it" the filesystem doenst handle ****.
<0> Falchion: crap, you're right
<6> Nanuq: :)
<0> TenBaseT: yeah, but I don't use playlists. I seek out what I want, and load it up.
<6> I'm ALWAYS right. Except when I'm not. But this isn't one of those times so I'm right. Of course.
<4> the file system is more than happy to let your entire collection be a flat pile of FILE0001.MP3 FILE0002.MPG ... FILEZZZZ.MP3
<4> I dont use playlists either.
<4> I search by artist or record name or song name though, instead of by directory.
<4> or style of music
<0> yeah, and I keep mine organised in such fashion
<4> right.
<6> I use itunes, which means I don't need to have a clue as to how my stuff is organized.
<4> I dont keep mine organized. It just happens.
<2> Falchion: I use foobar2k and it does the same thing
<0> TenBaseT: as I recall, iTunes was always ****ing with me
<2> Falchion: except it kills the m***ive iTunes boat
<2> bloat
<4> I import **** into itunes by dropping it on top of the itunes window, and it just magically goes where I need it to
<0> Jostein: and there's that
<6> Jostein: hmm. never heard of foorbar2k.
<4> I havent either
<2> Falchion: win32 stuff.
<6> Ah. I'm on a mac.
<2> Falchion: basicly a player that handles 99% of the formats out there with a minimal memory footprint
<0> TenBaseT: Well you go ahead, use your lickable bloated music player
<7> looks like none of my computers fried last night, but none of my shows recorded either :(
<4> does it play itunes purchased music?
<2> really lightweight, minimalistic and does the job well
<0> hey Sean
<2> the way software -should- be
<6> Though my music i stoed on my linux box. It is sorted in the directories by group/album but that's because i DL all mine from newsgroups in groups already. heh
<2> TenBaseT: no, but that is not a problem to me, as I dont buy music off iTunes
<0> Jostein: nobody should
<0> Jostein: free 'n clear or nothing
<2> and no "buying an iPod" is not a solution
<2> if I cant play it anywhere on anything, its by definition -crap-
<2> I realize there are workarounds for that DRM thingie, but it still doesnt change the fact that it is crap by design
<0> Jostein: I mentioned that, eh? drop foobar2000 on usb flash, dump a soma.fm stream to a file and copy that over too, and I get eight hours of ad-free music.
<2> heh. nice
<0> Jostein: it's as simple as curl, or wget ;)
<2> hehehe
<0> Jostein: set that up before bed, y'see
<2> yeah
<0> Jostein: need something that'll interface with pandora.com, allow me to play that anywhere
<0> Jostein: plus, dump it to a file
<2> havent tried out pandora.com
<2> but mplayer can probably handle that, right?
<0> Jostein: when they talk about ads, which they haven't implemented yet afaik, are they to be audio?
<0> Jostein: well it's some flash junk with a custom interface
<2> oh. I see
<0> Jostein: makes sense to use that for the first bit, so it can learn what ya like
<0> Jostein: but I'd really like to drop that in winamp/fb2k
<0> Jostein: it's mp3 audio, afaict, so it should be technically possible ;)
<2> yeah
<2> just sniff the http-stream or something dirty like that :P
<0> geez
<0> Jostein: http://www.ghacks.net/2006/05/13/listen-to-pandora-in-winamp/
<2> oh well
<2> sounds like an interesting service indeed
<0> Jostein: give it a whack
<0> Jostein: anyhow, bed
<2> later
<3> Nanuq: later.
<7> sleep well, Eric
<7> oh gawd
<2> well watching actually.
<2> I blame Lion-O's cousin (Crash-O)
<2> he was the one who fooled me into checking out their music. prior to that I was content just watching their weekly sunday show
<4> I dont think anyone but you and RMS think that anyone is going to get DRM-free music.
<4> you should sing a duet with RMS about it, I'm sure it would be touching.
<2> In that case, screw the labels
<4> thats a fine and just resposne.
<4> so you're boycotting music?
<2> so far ninja tune and any other label I buy music from have provided me with excellent DRM free music
<4> I like listening to music too much, I'm araid.
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