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<0> Yep.
<1> I think the DNC is full of crap, personally.
<1> Don't get me wrong I hate republicans a lot more, but I think we have a pretty ****ty choice when it comes down to vote for douchebag or turd sandwich.
<2> hmm, the problem with politics is IMO stubborness. Either you're left or your right, that narrow minded stuff doesn't work anymore IMO.
<3> joys of the two party system
<2> s/your right/you're right/
<3> open it up, make them compromise and form soalitions
<1> I say we just call them all what they are. The crook party.
<3> s/soa/coa/
<1> whitecap: Apparently there are some countries in Europe (I think germany is one of them) which have a very successful equal time way of doing things, instead of having them sponsored through campaign finance.
<2> duplex-: aye
<2> Germany works a bit like the US with their several 'states' (bundeslander iirc) but without the hype and a little more choice than a mere 2 parties.
<1> I think it would be better to have a state funded campaign with equal time on air for all parties than make it impossible for a non crook to even get put up for election, seeing as how right now you practically have to take bribes to get put up for office. Because $50,000 in campaign contributions is nothing more than a legal bribe, people will expect favors in return.
<1> But enough of politics. afk.
<0> Personally, I have long thought we need to get rid of the Electoral College system, but that will never happen because the only ones who can get rid of it are the very ones that it benefits the most.
<4> Does it matter? Soon the US will default on it's debts, and then all that "National Forrest" (also known as collateral) will go to the new owners of the United States, and us, it's tennants, will simply pay rent in their beautiful country.
<5> yea ok, and rockets will shoot out of my *** into beautiful firework displays
<4> Perhaps the American People should rise up with pitchforks and other firearms, and use them for what the constitution said they were for.
<6> anyone here have experience with qlogic FC cards & Dell FC arrays?
<4> safemode: What does the US export again? Corn? Otherwise we're a ... uh... service industry? Does the US fed gubbment expect us to make a living doing each other's laundry?
<5> who the hell has pitchforks these days anyways.
<4> Lowe's. But they're those chinese ones that break easily.
<1> CancerMan: No, that's why they've cut down on education, so the only thing left for the US to do is be hired mercenaries.
<5> in any case, the US has survived not being on top of the world's economy before, it can do it again. You can't be on top forever.
<1> CancerMan: People always need someone else to kill. And we have the might to do it for hire!
<4> duplex-: Only because we go deep deep into debt to buy our weapons.
<4> I love my country, but I hate my government.
<4> They're legalized con men. They call it "deficit spending", I call it writing checks my *** can't cash, which note -- would plop me in a federal "pound me in the ***" prison where I would have cable and playstation.
<2> hmm, 2am
<7> hi im not sure if this is the correct place to ask ! i have justg installed j2eesdk on my linux server but cant seem to access the http/s interface ? can anyone help me
<2> dietkinnie: Define "can't access" ?
<0> I hate when there's a braindead thread on a mailing list and I post the only halfway intelligent response and the moderator kills it.
<2> dietkinnie: although it sounds to me as if your problem has more to do with Java than with Linux.
<7> i think it does too
<2> dietkinnie: what I can advice you regarding java though is to ditch the GNUcrap asap and replace it with Sun's own Java VM / sdk.
<2> j2eesdk ? hmm
<7> yes
<2> thats renamed to Java ee 5 iirc.
<7> i think so
<7> and i cant find proper documentation regarding this product
<2> rofl
<2> dietkinnie: then you didn't look very hard.
<2> anyway, try #java.
<7> im on it
<7> no one is talking
<2> well, sometimes life isn't fair.
<2> thats also the first time I heard of Java EE having a webinterface. oh well.
<2> dietkinnie: I don't recall asking you to msg me. Keep it IN the channel.
<2> cluebie must think that Sun's Java Application Server is a webinterface or something. Oh well...
<8> It's not?!
<2> not really.
<8> Oh crap! @#$^@#$^
<8> I have no idea, I'm just babbling. Something to say not related to the political discussion in #boston.
<4> How can you learn in read only mode?
<4> Isn't #boston as liberal as the rest of IRC?
<2> time for bed.
<9> nite peter
<8> g'night Lion-O
<4> Peter... I expected him to be named something like 'Ted'.
<9> haha
<0> I sent out an e-mail to my group to let 'em know I'd be rebooting a pair of Linux servers tonight since I installed a bunch of updates...
<0> $boss is used to the Windows servers which get rebooted once a week and asked "How often do you reboot these?" "Only when they need it." "Okay, how often is that? How many times have you rebooted them this year, for example?" "This year? 0."
<10> can I have install openssl from source even though I have the rpm already installed?
<11> yes
<12> that was some weird ****
<11> what was?
<12> 15 mil transport helo's fly by along with 5 groups of jets, power was lost and so was internet.
<13> JackStorm: nice.
<13> testing out their new toys, I guess ;)
<14> hehe...
<14> my company is looking for another one of me.
<11> JackStorm: testing out EMP?
<12> looks like it, but I was in the middle of something, and it pisses me off.
<15> Strider...that sounds insane (IMO)...one of you is more than enuf
<14> hee hee
<12> K_F: nfi, there has been some weird **** happening here from time to time, and even more so since Katrina.
<12> but it did remind me to kill to remove the buzzers on my UPS's...
<13> whoever thought these things were a good idea needs to be shot
<12> err kill/remove ....15 of those going off is not nice to hear.
<14> no mute buttons?
<14> all my UPSen have Mute buttons
<13> it's like HAY THAR! just in case you didn't notice cause it's totally dark and theres no sound, BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
<12> Strider: I have high end APC colo cl*** UPS'
<14> yawn
<13> Strider: none of the cheap UPSes I have have them :P
<14> RelDrgn: the cheap ones and the expenseive one I have both do.
<13> in fact, I don't think any UPS i've ever used had one.
<13> JackStorm: haha I had one just for mine but a cat pissed in it (and survived, which surprised me)
<15> what, the computer, UPS, or the cat? :)
<13> the cat. the ups fried itself
<13> ps2 was ok
<14> I dropped a running UPS into a puddle...
<12> the other 1500 has the extern batt pack, and that keeps the TiVo and cable box going.
<14> while it was hooked up to a generator, with no earth ground.. it was... fascinating
<13> but yeah, back at my first job we had these funky white things that were really cheap plastic, taller than wide or long, and had no external widgets but a sliding switch to turn them on and a fuse.
<12> Strider: ohhhh...most ****ed up thing I did, was drive a server 50miles while it was on a UPS (was moving colo's and wanted to keep the uptime)
<14> JackStorm: lol
<13> this job we've got a pair of older APCs that have some dipswitches and a power button, maybe if I fiddled with the switches enough I'd find a setting that turned the buzzer off
<15> heh...Khan on how he managed to meet Chekov (Seems as if Khan needed to use the toilet, and Chekov was hogging the toilet, much to Khan's dismay, when Chekov came out (using up all the toilet paper as well), Khan mentioned "I shall never forget your face...") :)
<14> JackStorm: http://gallery.marspostcards.ca/DevonFirstWeek/IMG_5917
<14> the UPS was in that tent...
<12> Strider: the Mars research project?
<14> JackStorm: yeah
<14> i'm just glad I didn't electrocute myself
<14> released much magic smoke though
<15> Strider, you'd have given yourself the ultimate stiffy
<12> yeah, you are lucky, I've had my *** tossed 18ft across a room while working to keep the magic smoke in (twice)
<14> JackStorm: heh, if I had been "thrown accross the room" it would have been bad scene, since I was inside the tent..
<14> I don't think it was too bad though, since the two lines were esentially floating...
<14> there is no grounding up in th earctic
<15> Strider, you use your schlong as a ground :)
<14> alrighty dinner
<4> Na na na na na na na na na where the hooooood aaaat?
<16> Strider: Ah HA! so that's where they really landed the mars rover ;)
<3> JackStorm: shrub was there today, might have been the cause of the hubub
<17> Sean!
<18> Kim
<17> sup? why the long face?
<18> I just lost broadband :(
<17> damn. that ****s.
<11> Might I inquire as to the cause?
<16> -ENOSMOKE ?
<18> K_F: house I live in switched to Rogers Home Phone, which isn't compatible with DSL
<11> ah
<18> I was... not happy.
<11> pair up with a neighbour and use wifi
<18> I have to use wifi, yes, but it's still going to ****... it's hooked up to a 128kbit cablemodem... too slow for the stuff I like to do (BitTorrent, etc.)
<18> going from 3MBit to 128kbit (shared, no less) is going to ****
<11> indeed
<16> ack. that is a fall from grace
<18> one more reason for me to move out
<18> I just need a goddamn job first
<9> man,i was pissed off...went to my bosses place a lil while ago...get to his place, and it was clear as day outside...sun shining, warm, brezzy, no clouds, etc...i leave my sunroof open..leave his palce 2 hours later, and its pouring rain
<3> why only 128k?
<18> whitecap: it's not my link...belongs to the family I live with... I managed to get him to allow me to share on his wifi.
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