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<0> pfeh. early.
<1> hey
<2> fredk: 6.5lbs
<3> Evii, considered the D620?
<4> /home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: failed to map segment from shared object: Cannot allocate memory
<4> Anyone know how I can fix that?
<5> mucking fess
<6> peder, find out whats being a memory hog
<6> use 'top' to find out
<4> just to much memory in use?
<7> peder: that is a known bug, and workaround is found on rather many locations
<7> it is related to memory limiting / softlimit
<6> nasty
<7> not really a bug per se, just different specifications
<4> Hm.. Is there a fix for that or something?
<7> stfw
<8> hey is there anything i can use to compile msvc++ on a *nix system ?
<9> anyone knows how to find the roots of a cubic equation?
<8> isnt this #Linux :\
<8> :P
<9> are there any math chat rooms?
<8> http://www.sosmath.com/algebra/factor/fac11/fac11.html
<8> and search google i guess
<7> most probably a school question anyways
<8> hehe yea
<10> chills: Yes, gcc. You'll have to rewrite all the code that relies on M$ vc++-specific libraries.
<11> hi
<11> is there an archive with ancient linux distributions somewhere on the web?
<11> i need mandrake 8.1
<8> hey is there a way i can use soem thing to compile msvc++ on linux
<0> chills: you missed the answer given.
<0> "Yes, gcc. You'll have to rewrite all the code that relies on M$ vc++-specific libraries."
<0> E911: dunno.
<8> ah hmm well i guess that would be a problem
<8> ah well windows it is then
<11> D-side found it! somewhere in poland a university ftp has what i'm searching for
<7> of course it brings up an interesting question. Why the **** do you need it?
<11> K_F because i've got a stupid borland tool which only runs under mandrake 8.1
<11> it's called kylix
<11> it's Delphi for Linux
<11> production stopped in 2003
<5> E911: You're not intending on connecting this mandrake box to the internet, or running any other services on it?
<11> whyzzyrd hehe
<11> no
<11> why're you asking?
<5> E911: Just checking.
<12> Mornin' / Afternoon guys. Yo whyzzyrd / K_F / D-side / Shadur / $others
<13> heya Lion-O
<14> Lion-O:
<12> ey cheezl :)
<7> E911: good answer :)
<7> heya Lion-O
<11> whyzzyrd good to know
<7> I actually used Delphi some time, must be half a decade ago at least
<5> E911: I can see ia64 images still hanging about some places, but not i386
<11> whyzzyrd i've already found an 1586 iso image
<12> K_F: hehe, about the same here. I once tried it because I was familiar with Pascal. Unfortunatly it didn't appeal to me ;)
<5> E911: so, what's the problem?
<7> Lion-O: http://www.kfwebs.net/drawchart/ is written in Delphi
<11> ftp://62.93.34.133/linuxISO/Mandrake8.1/Mandrake81-cd1-inst.i586.iso
<7> whyzzyrd: nothing, he just said he found it :)
<12> K_F: hmm, lessee
<11> np any more
<5> E911: i see.
<11> whyzzyrd :)
<7> E911: check those checksums up aganist official announcement archives
<5> E911: So, *why* are you going to develop something in this old, unsupported language?
<7> might be openpgp signed as well
<7> whyzzyrd: maintenance of an old system?
<12> K_F: so basicly used delphi to design an activex component, right?
<7> Lion-O: yes
<11> K_F the problem is that there seem to be no *offical* checksums around anymore
<7> that COM is pretty much the only thing I miss about having a window server :)
<12> K_F: *nod*, that makes sense. At least those "windows aimed languages" stick to certain standards,regardless if you like those or not ;)
<11> whyzzyrd i've got a library to communicate with a programmable logic controller which is programmed in kylix
<5> E911: try the wayback machine
<5> E911: I figured something similar
<11> whyzzyrd i try to make a C port now
<11> but it's a little bit hard without the original development tool
<5> E911: I once had to make some 3D goggles work, porting an old kernel driver from 1.2.x to 2.4.x
<11> whyzzyrd wayback machine is a good idead
<11> whyzzyrd yes, same business
<5> E911: or, email mandriva. Presumably they keep an archive of important stuff.
<11> whyzzyrd that would be a possibility too
<11> whyzzyrd but why aren't they just putting things like this on their website
<5> E911: Too old. Unsupported..
<7> I probably have some 8.1 CDs in my archive somewhere
<11> i dislike mandriva, i have to admit
<7> of course, that archive is 700km away
<5> K_F: I never ran mandrake
<15> cine ma ajuta cu o arhiva bun de scan...pls contact me on prv
<7> whyzzyrd: I've used it at occations, I know I at least have 8.2 CDs somewhere
<11> yes, but if you i.e. take a look at debian's site, you'll probably find old unsupported things
<5> E911: probably
<7> but I archive stuff I don't use myself as well, if there is a slight chance I might want to use it ..
<11> same thing for slackware
<13> hmmm bouncy
<5> E911: Don't speak to us about ****a
<5> ****ware
<11> whyzzyrd ok :)
<11> whyzzyrd may i ask why?
<5> E911: Well.
<7> kiddies..
<5> E911: It has no package management.
<5> E911: It's generally b0rk
<7> it was a decent system 12-13 years ago
<7> sadly it hasn't been updated since
<11> hmm, i don't want to be rude, but i think you're not very informed about what you're talking right now
<11> but guess what? i don't talk with you about it, if you don't like
<12> Slackware doesn't check dependencies on packages, it doesn't install security/bugfix patches and it can't be decently maintained. Upgrading in Slackware isn't upgrading: basicly you're tearing apart your system by removing software after which you try to fix things by installing newer versions of the stuff you removed. Whatever crap breaks during that process will always remain a mystery untill the **** starts hitting the fan.
<12> Its a nice toy, but unsuited for serious work. A plain out fact.
<16> hmm.. is IP forwarding no longer a kernel option?
<12> rhowe: ey there! Congrats to you and Ms. Howe!
<11> Lion-O 1. correct, 2. wrong, 3. depends on you're definition of "decently maintained" and 4. why would i want to upgrade a production system?
<11> "never change a running system"
<12> E911: Ever heard of bugs being found?
<10> E911: Not even if there are security issues and updates?
<11> all this makes it very suitable for serious work
<10> You'll certainly be doing a whole lot of it.
<12> E911: For example; kernel 2.6.x has suffered from various /remote/ root exploits in the past. If you didn't install any updates you simply expose your system to compromises by kiddies.
<11> Lion-O slackware doesn't need any specific kernel, you can just use the latest
<11> no patchwork done
<11> of course you have to know what you are doing
<12> rofl
<13> heh
<11> it's a whole lot more pain to run the latest kernel under any other distribution i've tried
<12> E911: I suggest you pay attention to 1) The demands needed by the kernel, located in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes. And 2) You /do/ realize that 2.6.x is being used for active development, hence the latest kernel is likely to be buggy?
<11> Lion-O :)
<12> E911: dude, you have absolutely no clue what you're blabbering about. Implementing a new kernel is the same on all distributions.
<12> Configure -> Compile -> dump in /boot & modules in /lib/modules/<kernel version>, configure boot manager, reboot.
<11> Lion-O 1) they are still satisfied with current slack for the latest kernel
<11> Lion-O 2) sure i woudln't use the latest unstable, but the latest stable
<11> Lion-O So i don't need that little patch and this little patch to not break for example, a debian system?
<7> use whatever you want just don't make another spambox out of it
<11> Lion-O all others are heavily patching the kernel and relying on their change in other packages
<11> K_F ok :) lets stop the discussion
<11> bye, guys
<11> thanks for your comments on Mandrakew
<7> http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/06jun/xuf009209.gif
<12> K_F: work friendly? :)
<7> yes
<12> K_F: rofl
<7> :)
<17> How can I set my system to getting the hashcodes out of the sam file?
<7> deriaN: get lost
<17> Grr this is quite annoy, I cant remember the Administrator p***word to my windows box :/
<7> riiiiiiiiiiight
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