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<0> Coma: this is a quite typical service machine.. 9:22am up 562 day(s), 20:51, 14 users, load average: 0.06, 0.10, 0.18
<0> Coma: this tells me 2 things. 1: We've not had a power cut there for 562 days ... 2: It's not had any fscking Solaris patches in 562 days ...
<1> Heh, solaris must be very secure then :P
<0> Coma: Umm.
<0> Coma: I didn't say there weren't patches to apply to it.
<0> Coma: I said it hadn't had any..
<1> Sounds like you've got people around just as lazy as me
<0> Coma: they almost have a pathological fear of restarting machines too
<1> Ah, in my case it's got nothing to do with fear but sheer lazyness. Just can't be bothered to keep certain boxen up to date
<0> Coma: I presume these machines aren't internet facing?
<1> Nah, they're internal service machines, and still live on their own little network
<1> Well, from here point of view....
<1> s/here/her/
<2> ...obviously she just tried to call again..



<2> heya Nanuq
<1> Morning Eric
<2> and Coma
<1> Oh yeah, you too
<2> girl woke me up..
<2> I should get up anyways..
<3> K_F: Are you talking about a girl?
<1> Yes you should :P
<2> waznz: apparently this one doesn't understand the concept of "no more contact"
<1> Though fridays usually lend themselves for doing perfectly nothing
<2> w000000000000000000t
<4> K_F: Think she'll understand the concept of "restraining order" ?
<2> Your invitation to try Google Spreadsheets
<5> ....?
<2> anyone wants one?
<3> K_F: You think any do?
<6> morning John, KF, V667, Shadur, whyz
<1> Spreadsheets are evil!
<6> K_F: yes
<3> K_F: google spreadsheets? Yes please
<6> waznz: I said yes first!
<3> Shadur: Restraining orders are just another way of saying "I love you"
<6> waznz: A distance relationship ;)
<2> well, there we go, I only had 2 of them :) (invitations that is)
<2> it _is_ fairly neat
<2> too slow to e.g. add a cell
<2> sorry, sheet
<3> K_F: What about just generally editing a sheet ... is that fast enough?
<2> waznz: not sure if you read my article the other day?
<2> http://www.kfwebs.net/news/522/Google-Spreadsheets
<2> "Google already offers hardware solution of its search for companies ( www.google.com ) . Is the next step of the spreadsheet application to host it on a dedicated server in the company, so that everything can be done in-house? to be easily searched using the search solution provided and still be secure.
<2> I wouldn't be surprised if google releases a collaboration suite on dedicated hardware at some point.
<2> that removes the network lag..
<2> where I see this going
<3> hrmmm ... interesting.
<6> hey this is sorta cool
<2> Nanuq: indeed :)
<6> Like my sheet at $work for quickly checking things
<6> One for dividends, another for T4s
<2> should support ODF though..
<2> and no graphing functions
<3> K_F: graphing will come, surely?
<2> waznz: most probably
<3> Yay for Web 2.01, eh?
<2> but it is too slow for general usage
<2> it has to be placed on the LAN
<2> they are soo gonna offer this as a dedicated server / server unit
<1> So what'll they come up with next, Google WordProcessor?
<2> Coma: they already have the basis for that
<3> Is there no word processor from google?
<2> according to rumors..
<6> http://www.oddity.ca/~eric/google_spread_01.png
<1> Hmm, looks like any other spreadsheet, ugly
<2> rofl
<3> Coma: Hard to argue that one ...
<2> I like spreadsheets
<0> That'll kick M$ in the nads
<1> I've never liked spreadsheets, but after yesterday's $*&^@&^%# with OO calc, I hate them
<3> I like them for quick and dirty ... but that's about it ...



<0> Next it'll be G00gl3-Linux, as they buy RedHat
<7> oracle would buy rh before google does
<7> lol
<0> Coma: I just arranged to buy a C840 BTW
<1> whyzzyrd: Gah, what is it with your c8xx fetish? :P
<0> Coma: well, my 810's been so good, and a friend wants shot of his 840, because his work's just bought him a Precision M90
<0> Coma: and for , which my work are paying, even if I only use it 2 years, it's muck-fee cheap.
<0> Coma: And I can't seem to manage to buy a decent laptop now, that has the autonomy of the 8xx and the high-res screen, that's not very very expensive
<1> That's certainly a bargain, but I still wouldn't waste that sort of money on plastic bricks anymore ;)
<8> Coma: So paint it and it can be a painted plastic brick
<0> Coma: the other thing is that at a 2G P4-mobile, there's not a fat lot that's any quicker without getting a core-duo.
<0> Coma: I think 5/7 of our macbook's have had to be returned
<5> hi whyzzyrd. did you say a 2940?
<1> whyzzyrd: Heh, the downside of apple's 1st gen stuff :/
<3> whyzzyrd: teething pains? or that overheating/thermal paste issue?
<0> waznz: At least 2 of them just kept crashing, and 1 of them stopped powering up.
<0> waznz: no idea about the others
<1> Probably the mooing or whining noise and overheating and ....
<9> Hehehe
<0> I doubt they'd have gone back if there wasn't a big issue on them.
<3> mooing?
<1> But by now they'll surely have resolved most problems, so it should be safe to buy one
<9> I have my work email copied to my gmail account because of back when I wasn't a full time employee etc and wanted my payslips as pdfs etc, easiest. Anyway, a client sent an email an hour ago demanding some numbers he urgently needs, too bad he'll have to wait till monday(It's 9:14pm friday now).
<1> waznz: Yes, the earlier 15" MBPs made a mooing noise
<9> Coma: ...Really?
<9> Or has my leg got bells on?
<1> http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/laptops/a-macbook-can-moo-can-you-176624.php
<3> awww ... Piz ... always playing hard to get :/
<9> Means no net for me though heh
<1> Oh wait, that's about the macbook, not the pro. Heh, didn't even know those suffered as well
<9> Meh, plug time. Night folks, be back when I have things setup at the new flat.
<1> Night, Pizbit
<1> flapdrol!
<10> sufkut!
<5> IRODLY.
<10> Does linux an Inspiron mix well in peoples general experience?
<1> evii: www.linux-laptop.net
<1> Usually, dells run linux "reasonably"
<10> Good enough for me ;)
<1> But whatever promises made by dell and supporting linux, that's virtually non-existent
<0> Evii: I run debian on my 810. The only thing that doesn't work is the 3com software modem.
<5> Night, all.
<1> Night, viking
<10> whyzzyrd: I'm looking at MacBook's too... *twitch*
<0> Evii: BTW, you don't want an inspiron. That's the consumer-range laptop. You can often get a better spec for the same money in the latitude range..
<10> Oh neat. If I buy a MacBook I get a phree Nano
<1> Evii: Hey, how about that nice Acer 20" laptop? ;)
<10> whyzzyrd: I'll check that that out. I've been looking at Alienware too. They seem pretty decent, but overpriced.
<0> Evii: Problem is I think they'll be fragile for at least a few months, the macbooks
<1> Overpriced? And yet you consider an apple?
<10> whyzzyrd: Good point.
<0> Coma: Apples *aren't* badly priced..
<0> Coma: especially the wee ones
<10> Coma: Apple's arent' overpriced.
<1> Ok, the macbooks are reasonably priced, but the pros are still expensive as hell
<0> Coma: perhaps, but you have to spend a lot of money to get a better spec in a Dell
<1> Not that'd stop me from buying one, but expensive nonetheless
<10> I want the black one... ;)
<1> whyzzyrd: But what if you don't want all those extra gizmos?
<1> Most of them are still unused
<10> For $1,299 i'd get a 2Ghz Intel Core Due, 13" widescreen (1200x800), 512MB RAM, 60GB SATA disk and a "SuperDrive" plus a free Nano. That's really not bad :)
<1> Evii: But would you really pay $200 extra, just to get a black finish?
<10> And they all include AirPort Extreme, GigE, firewire and some bluetooth crap.
<10> Coma: No. :)
<10> Coma: You also get an extra 20GB of disk space too :P~
<0> Coma: I know some people that would.
<1> Evii: You can have a BTO white one with the same disk, memory and what not as the black one, it still remains $200 cheaper
<10> Got to say though, the Pro doesn't seem worth the extra bux0rs.


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