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<0> annoying :)
<1> d
<0> where is everyone
<2> debating stuff on the other net... or watching footies
<0> footies bloiw
<0> blow :)
<0> hmm, this is insane this box is doing like 80% iowait
<3> horribly bottlenecking on disk? wtf is it doing?
<0> nothing spectacular
<0> I think its a driver/hardware issue
<0> http://pastebin.ca/83390
<0> thats slightly less idle than preferable :)
<3> yeah, could be. or just could be bad disk placement, but that's less likely
<0> well, theres alot of small webfiles...but still, there's not THAT much data
<4> aaah, the joy of patching.
<0> Lion-O, what did you mess up? :)
<4> fredk: nothing, I'm just messing about with my server. Checking up on needed updates.
<0> ahh
<0> hehe
<0> me too, except I have no immediate answer to this issue.
<0> Solution is either dumping the crap sata controllers and going to scsi or upgrading the drivers/distribution
<2> might be interesting to know which controllers those are
<5> Hi everybody, I a looking for a network monitor that has a www frontend. Does somebody here know any software more complex, i tryed a lot in the past but i did not get the wanted complexity ( service dependencies, etc)?
<2> davidf nagios
<0> tojoe, it's an Adaptec controlled rebranded by Dell...2610SA or Dell CERC
<3> nagios, definitely. there *is* an alternative? :)
<0> hehe
<0> Nagios is even simple to configure
<2> eww, that stuff still uses a i960 cpu
<0> tojoe, the cerc?
<2> yeah
<0> might very well be
<5> om thanks Fredk
<5> thanks
<2> fredk are you using raid5 or something simpler?
<0> tojoe, simpler, raid 1
<2> oh, then the abysmal performance of the cpu shouldnt be a problem
<0> Yea
<6> Shout out to the amateur admins: Fresh webmin vulnerability. Patch up, folks!
<7> Yes, but intelligent admins don't use webmin in the first place, and who cares about the stupid ones?
<6> This is true. Consider it a kindness to the latter, I guess.
<8> I care about spam drones though
<6> Naw, it's not a code execution, so it's not gonna make any spam zombies
<9> heh
<10> anyone else crazy about ubuntu
<3> well, it *is* evidence of insanity, yes
<10> uh oh
<10> not sure about that comment, can you expand, but only briefly if it is negative ; ]
<0> From what I hear Ubuntu is a decent desktop distribution
<0> A few guys I know use it
<3> it is, yes. basicaly a superset of debian
<3> although debian-unstable rather than -stable iirc
<10> what distro do you fellow favor, if you don't mind me asking
<0> I wonder if I can pay someone to figure out why iowait is this high on this box
<0> There's probably companies doing it
<3> hmm. personally debian, but I am contractually obliged to tell you how wonderful suse's crappy distro is :)
<10> hah
<10> well for a debian derivative, ubuntu can't be too bad
<8> DaveHowe: You're not under contract with us, so **** that
<10> what i really like about it is how it runs on my thinkpad x31
<10> i didn't have to work at getting the suspend to work
<10> or wireless
<10> so anyway
<3> it isn't. I was making a humourous comment - although a debian purist would probably tell you -unstable is the path of the dark side :)
<10> sure but on the desktop i want cutting edge features
<8> DaveHowe: There's only one path with debian, and that's always to the light
<8> I see no dark side
<10> but not fedora-eque, which i _know_ can be unstable
<8> Well, maybe debian-legal
<3> debian-legal are spawn of satan - I really must unsub from there one of these days :)
<8> debian is being bogged down by its bureaucracy
<8> democracy doesn't always work
<10> are any of you guys doing grad cs work?
<3> lol - about 20 years too late for that here :)
<8> no, I work for a living
<10> i do both..
<0> hmm, seems to be a new kernel out for CentOS
<10> anything major?
<0> If its the one I think it's a security patch
<0> "privilege escalation security issue"
<10> so its a mandatory one
<0> https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2006-0574.html
<0> thats pretty mandatory
<10> you know how there is a paperclip that tells people after microsoft office tips?
<0> hm?
<3> death to clippy! death! death I say!
<10> how about a "kernal" to tell people about the linux kernel
<10> about scheduling, modules, patches, etc
<10> in a really friendly, common sense way
<10> but not just like a tutorial enabled by menus
<10> like an autonomous agent
<10> perhaps a chatbot
<10> that determines skill level, and observes learning
<0> "hi this is your friendly linux kernel, what can I do you for?"
<10> yea
<10> although i have no real experience with agent architectures this is what i want to get into
<10> for a phd
<10> anyway, i think its cool
<0> DaveHowe, hehe wasabi is fairly hot ;)
<2> wasabi is nice
<0> it's still fairly hot :)
<3> tojoe: in moderation, yes - but if its all you can taste, there is too much
<2> yeah, but it's not too bad
<3> not that veggie sushi has much taste without it of course
<2> DaveHowe true
<8> Heh, just received an actual 419 in my mailbox
<8> 's been a while
<0> Well, the fish in itself doesnt taste that much :P
<11> neraly all done now yeay1
<3> fredk: well, fairly obviously - no fish in veggie sushi :)
<3> most fish sushis have quite strongly flavoured fish to make up for the blandness of the rice
<2> i wouldnt mind some sashimi right now
<3> can't stand squid ones - remind me of pencil erasers
<2> lol, tasteless chewing gum
<11> i need another fond that makes dividers I only have 1 called seprates
<11> fond/font
<0> DaveHowe, how about whales? :)
<3> fredk: nothing against the welsh
<0> ;)
<12> care are darwin dau un linux
<8> zipo: Wat zeg je?
<13> kannietverstaan
<8> zipo: Ik snap d'r geen zak van. Misschien eens engels proberen?
<12> please my root darwin for linux
<8> Revie: 'psies
<0> DaveHowe, Sea Urchin? Quail Eggs?
<8> zipo: Yeah, you're definitly darwin award material
<3> never had the latter in sushi. sea urchins tend to be an odd texture, but taste ok
<3> shark is.. odd. wrong texture for the taste IYSWIM
<0> DaveHowe, yea, also they had Halibut Fat
<0> Eel was interesting too
<0> Catfish liver too heh
<3> last time I had sushi, I gave up trying to guess - just got more of whatever I enjoyed, and avoided anythng I didn't :)
<0> haha
<0> Im having some now, well waiting for it :+
<0> Delivery sushi hah
<14> poof
<0> eek
<15> is there a way to test a linux user p***word (with shadow) without being root ? I tried several tricks like echo "p***" | su nick..
<0> YAY Italy beat ****ing france
<16> fredk: heh, only just
<3> arct: what is wrong with just doing su nick then typing it?
<17> Arct: No.
<0> I dunno, I didnt watch it..i'm just glad they did :)
<14> fredk: I've never heard of ****ing, France.. but I don't doubt it exists.
<16> fredk: France were short of about 4 of their star players by the time it got to penalties
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