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<0> Firefox can't find the server at www.dogsthatlooklikehitler.com.
<1> :P
<0> lack of forward planning
<0> if he had registered animalsthatlooklikehitler.com, he could have had /cats, /dogs, /otters....
<2> with gmplayer can I make a screenshot of video?
<0> or if he was happy with multiple servers, cats.thatlooklikehitler.com
<3> Lion-O, maybe his dogs look like hitler ;)
<4> StrayByte: use -vo x11
<5> DaveHowe: just "thatlooklikehitler.com", then he could have dogs. cats. mothersinlaw. &c
<5> multiple servers?
<3> cats.thatlooklikehitler.com
<5> why would you need multiple servers?
<3> one will do
<5> indeed
<0> smsie: you would need multiple servers - even if some are virtuals
<5> DaveHowe: tenuous....there's only one server running still



<0> hmm. I am ***erting there is no difference between one apache running six sites, two running three each, three running two - but of course to make old style https work, you would need separate IPs for each if they were secured
<3> I don't see a pressing need for https on *.thatlooklikehitler.com :)
<5> the user sees no difference...there is significant difference in how many daemons have to run :)
<0> smsie: thread count probably isn't significantly different
<5> DaveHowe: yeah it is...if I have one apache instance running 50 vhosts, that's just one thread until something connects, which then forks another thread...
<5> if I have 50 servers, that's 50 listening daemons :)
<0> smsie: ok, in the case of a bunch of sites nobody ever visits, I can see that :)
<5> this is a ****ing SILLY thing to care about however :)
<3> hehe
<5> DaveHowe: that's like 99% of the internet :)
<0> smsie: then why are we arguing? :)
<5> I wasn't arguing
<5> I was explaining :)
<5> the universe is out of sync when the padawan tries to teach the master :)
<0> oh, btw. Becky is bitching at me. her web page wasn't working, until she tried to show me how it wasn't working... apparently that isn't fair
<5> DaveHowe: haha
<3> haha
<5> I know *exactly* how she feels
<0> smsie: you graduated from being named after some sort of insect many years ago - you are a BOFH in your own right now, with all the duties and powers thereof :)
<5> "****...panic...drive for an hour so Dave can fix my modem. Modem works first time for Dave...BASTARD!" :)
<0> oh I dunno - that was still the most inventive use of a screwdriver I have ever seen :)
<5> it worked
<3> I hate spyware, it ****ing ****s
<3> most amazing is that everyone else seems to get it, and I don't
<5> I didn't have the cash for a new box, it kept that oine running for a long time after it should have had to be binnede
<0> Fredk: agreed. it took me near on an hour last night to remove the *Fifteen* instances of spyaxe from a customer lappy
<5> then I got a crappy mobo for it for a while...had one serial port, and no ps/2...so I could have a modem, or a mouse, but not both
<3> how the **** do they manage to actually get it on there
<5> ran win95 without a mouse for a couple of months on that
<0> fredk: exploit for ie
<3> DaveHowe, pr0n sites most likely ;)
<5> ad/spy/mal/spamware should be illegal with death penalties
<0> fredk: apparently not. spyaxe was using one of the banner-ad companies that permit macromedia applets
<6> aye
<3> smsie, arent they working on that? apart from the death penalties
<3> :)
<6> smsie: but then again, IMO the underlying environment making all of this possible also deserves some credit there
<5> fredk: due to the international and (mainly) anonymous (if you know what you're doing) nature of the internet...it's not an easy problem
<6> allowing the system to be influenced from something as trivial as an email program is IMNSHO insane.
<0> the system/ring 0 kernel code/
<0> s/the system/ring 0 kernel code/
<5> Lion-O: there is a good argument to be made in that direction...but similarly, I *should* be able to leave my car open with the keys in it and NOT have some bastard steal it. Unfortunately the world ain't like that
<0> bah, forgot command :)
<6> smsie: *nod*
<5> Lion-O: but yeah, having an email client execute attachments automatically is *insane*
<3> smsie, I think they've figured out that by now :)
<5> of course, the world *should* be such that you can, and not have some cunt try to pwn your box...but unfortunately, that's as likely as a 12 year old virgin being virginal after spending a night alone in a paedophile institute
<5> fredk: some haven't
<5> really
<5> fredk: looked at outlook recently?
<3> some comparison
<3> didnt they change the behaviour?
<5> fredk: not really. They changed the behaviour so SOME stuff didn't execute...but other stuff does. And it decides what to execute or not based on etension only
<5> fredk: of course, 2003 might be better
<5> outlook is a truly dreadful email client anyway
<3> mmmm isnt there a new release due soon anyway?
<5> yeah
<5> so we'll have to upgrade and spend more on licensing



<3> I dunno, it does the job
<5> barely
<3> no you don't, it falls within exchange licensing for me atleast :P
<5> it's all part of Office
<5> you upgrade one part, you kinda end up having to upgrade the rest
<7> *sighs* waits for someone to fix her probelem
<5> all better now?
<3> mmm, I use action packs which are just a subscription
<3> works for me
<7> smsie its not that kind of problem lol
<7> html problem wich shouldn't be having a porblem but seems to be doibng so anyways....
<5> oh well, pastebin it somewhere and let the experts here have a look
<7> smsie even dave doesnt know why its doing it...
<5> html can be an awkward beast...given that no two browsers are exactly the same
<5> Becky: there are other experts here...flutter eyelashes at them
<5> pastebin it and let them look
<7> www.rebeccas-designs.org.uk/portfolio/websets.html
<7> and yes its a page using a table for layout
<7> and yes I know thats not allowed....
<5> sure it's allowed
<5> what's the problem exactly?
<8> poof
<7> smsie the buttons
<0> smsie: blame #html - if it wasn't invented in the last three days, its outdated and *should* be depreciated even if it isn't
<5> Becky: what about them? they look fine to me
<7> theres a black line linked to where the middle button is going inbetween buttons
<7> or at least there should be....
<5> DaveHowe: well, using tables for layout *is* deprecated. That doesn't mean it's not allowed...it's just not (usually) optimal
<5> oh, I harhly noticed that
<5> let's see then
<9> yeah it is there
<7> yep point is it shouldn't be~
<5> you have tables nested 6 deep?
<5> ouch
<7> only till i change it~
<5> stick a border=0 on all the tables, see if that helps at all
<7> couple of weeks it will all be divs
<0> becky, you seem to be catching the ~ key when you hit enter....
<7> it was delibrate :p
<0> take me ~, country road....
<7> i just like the ~ its dinky
<5> hmm
<5> the image is slightly bigger than the button
<0> its a small metal car?
<7> well thats sort of the point
<5> it's what's causing the artefact
<5> make the botton the same size as the img and it will disappear
<0> ah, scaling issue?
<0> or table cel larger than the image?
<5> DaveHowe: no. for unknown reason, the browser is underlining the button I think
<5> DaveHowe: yeah
<5> DaveHowe: if you get firefox to show the extent of the anchor, it's larger than the image
<9> atually it looks like the browser is underling a blank line under the image
<5> pretty sure it let you edit the source on the fly to see how it looked
<9> the </a> on a separate line for the img tag forces it to put in a blank line.
<0> hmm. yeah, the CRLF *would* count as one unit of whitespace
<9> you can see it by highlighting the text around the images
<5> removing the <br> doesn't fix it though
<7> nope but doing that fixed it thanks XyZzY
<9> sure, it's odd when those pesky CRLF mangle things
<7> never thought that would cause a problem but i guess I know better for future
<0> yeah. in some cases, you have to keep your crlf whitespace *inside* tags where it won't hurt your layout
<7> DaveHowe me not an expert me have no idea what yo're talking about...
<6> Becky: he tarzan, you jane? That sounds promising ;-)
<5> you do manage to do reasonable design
<9> I ran into that bit of nastyness when I was trying to make my html more readable for meatspace
<5> nice clean, easy to read, etc
<0> Lion-O: me tarzan, she demanding ;)
<7> i dont believe it im getting compliments...


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