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<0> Tamahome, I believe you should try to use native services as far as you can.
<1> Russ: LOL!
<1> fredk: with some exceptions :P
<0> Tamahome, I wont even comment IIS SMTP
<1> but yeah, Plesk is written in PHP
<0> Running php on windows feels just wrong
<1> it works for what we need it for
<1> hey, I just installed PHP on my W2K3 box the other day
<0> yea
<0> Tamahome, still it doesnt mean its great :)
<1> apart from a few W3WP process deaths, it's not bad
<1> fredk: I needed it to do some dev. for my sister's website
<0> Yea
<1> form scripts and image resizing
<0> I like how IIS has an API you can program towards for altering the webserver
<1> I haven't really looked at ISAPI, I've heard it's kinda ugly though
<0> I don't like how debugging it is literally black magic
<1> debugging cl***ic ASP is *definitely* black magic
<0> Tamahome, I meant more like ADSI
<0> for API
<1> oh for Active Directory integration
<2> ADSI, because LDAP wasn't good enough for MS
<0> or for just writing applications that do things with IIS, such as add hosts and such
<1> Russ: well, it's really just LDAP with a bit of extra schema
<2> Tamahome: No it isn't, it's an API. LDAP is a protocol
<1> well you just contradicted yourself :P
<2> Tamahome: Not really. MS just doesn't seem to like protocols. It prefers to set an interface as an API
<3> anyone know how to move mail in neomail on one server to horde on another?
<2> Tamahome: Therefore, it didn't much like LDAP and decided it needed to design a directory API
<0> neph_fl, imapcp
<1> neph: they don't both use IMAP for mail access?
<2> Tamahome: At least, that's the way I see it
<3> no, neomail isnt using imap..or i cant access it anyway
<0> then you're SOL i'd say
<3> there is a folder in neomail with .db files for mail directories
<0> hmm, I guess you could just copy the maildirs, yeah
<1> but you'd have to make sure no mail was being delivered to the folders as you were moving it
<0> indeed
<0> Install an IMAP server and use imapcp ? :P
<1> probably a good idea
<2> hm.. imapcp?
<4> fredk: thats so impressive i could just **** myself
<4> :D
<1> fredk: *yawn* X86
<1> I want an Itanium2
<0> It's supposed to match up with the faster opterons :)
<4> but you're a windows weenie
<4> what in the hell would you do with it? :D
<0> D-side, who me?
<4> fredk: is that the core 2 duo then?
<1> but I don't have that kind of money for electrical bills
<2> Tamahome: Do you get a free substation with that?
<1> Russ: sadly, no
<0> D-side, not sure, its the latest xeon series I suppose :) I'll installl linux on it
<1> D-side: Win2K3 Server 64-bit runs on Itanium2
<2> Tamahome: If you happen to live under high voltage transmission wires, you could always coil cable around and around your houes and induce a voltage from them :)
<1> Russ: if I had a death wish, yes :P
<4> fredk: of course you'll install linux on it, you're sensible.
<2> Tamahome: I heard of a guy that did that with a barn (urban myth?) who got collared by the electricity company
<2> Tamahome: I suspect it's an urban myth though - the amount of cable required would be ridiculous
<1> indeed
<5> you'd need a coil the size of a house
<6> Why can't apple NOT package quicktime with itunes?
<0> D-side, hehe, its going to be used as a MySQL server
<4> reality: god i wish i could answer that question
<5> and you'd need to wind it with some crazy gauge wire, too.
<1> reality: they can.
<5> high tolerances, and all that
<5> it'd probably not give off a whole lot of current.
<1> and they do, you just have to poke around the site a bit
<6> So the basic argument is that they are retarded
<2> reality: Is this for Windows?
<7> Oooooh! We need to sell these along with our blue carpet:
<4> its certainly believable.
<7> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060807/od_nm/germany_pill_dc_1
<1> there's a "standalone" downloader
<6> rhowe: Yeah
<2> reality: A good source of URLs is unattended.sf.net's CVS repository
<6> Tamahome: I've been poking for about 20 minutes. All I can find is the 6.5 installer
<2> reality: Direct download URLs for all sorts of applications
<1> sec.
<6> Bookmarked
<1> I *did* have a bookmark for it, where the **** did it go
<6> Bah, I found it
<1> aight
<1> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/64bit/ipf/default.mspx <-- WS2K3 for Itanium
<1> holy ****, the 1.6GHz part has 24MB of L3
<8> Someone buy me a flickr account, damnit. meh.
<1> OK, time to head out to the theatre
<9> mmmm cache
<10> Falchion: you have to BUY those?!
<1> deep cache lines is love.
<8> Jostein: There are limits for free accounts. heh
<10> Falchion: ah
<10> Because "e" is hard to write
<8> heh
<11> so hard he must have really meant instead
<8> wrong button.
<10> hah! googling for my own name, my rant "Your browser ****s" is now hit #2 after the frontpage :P
<11> lol
<10> Googling for "Jostein" only, my page is hit #8. not bad considering there are a few pretty famous norwegians with their first name "Jostein"
<10> ewww. hit #1 is a AOL page!
<11> hehe
<7> AOL pwns you
<10> thats bad.
<10> However.. considering the fact that pretty much every norwegian knows about "Jostein Gaarder" and next to none knows about me, I can live with the fact that a page about Jostein Gaarder outranks mine
<12> There is something just totally awesome about drinking beer at work at 4pm on a Tuesday.
<10> otherwise I'd sorta lose faith in google
<2> NotEvii: Your iPod freaked out at the mention of jpop?
<12> rhowe: Yeah. It was playing the first 4 seconds of a song as the last 4 seconds and as soon as it hit the fourth second, it'd got to the next song.
<12> Which was pretty weird.
<2> NotEvii: hm, then do I have the MP3s for you :P
<12> rhowe: Heh.
<12> There are like a million people lining up outside to get wristbands and tokens for tonights shindig.
<12> s/tokens/free_beer_tokens/ :)
<2> NotEvii: heh
<2> NotEvii: Did you announce it on the company homepage? :P
<12> rhowe: We don't put stuff on there :)
<13> w000
<13> my appserver finally contacted my MySQL server without errors :)
<10> Lion-O: doesnt sun have SuQL or something?
<13> Jostein: you're just jealous ;)
<10> not really. I have a server I can manage. With Solaris, I'd sit there dumb wondering why I wasted electricity on the box
<10> I fully admit to my utter incompetence when it comes to Solaris :)
<13> Naah, this is my appserver going about. Not really specificly solaris related 8)
<2> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347938
<10> I like my current setup anyway. Someone would have to pay me big bucks to make me migrate this thing to something else
<10> oh ****. 1:30 am already?!? time to sleep
<11> cyas
<11> rhowe: do it
<11> WFM here
<14> holas
<13> I don't think so.
<6> Cops...the great American Redneck Trilogy
<6> Rather...anthology
<14> alguien me puede decir d donde es este canal
<14> quien escribe castellano por aca
<15> speak English here
<16> somehow I read that as mescaline...
<15> speak English, or go to #linuxlatino
<9> wtf
<9> s/malasia/malaysia
<2> RelDrgn: My first engrish.com submission! http://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/img_0489-whocares.jpg
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