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<0> clumsy: solution for what ?
<1> When I know I'm about to misspell a world, I choose a synonym I'm familiar with.
<2> this is why i dont come on irc to ask for help.
<1> Pizbit: haha you and are are a couple of pricks
<0> clumsy: solution to remotely manage Windows PC's?
<2> doesnt matter if its windows
<1> Pizbit: feel free to thrown an "I" in there where appropriate.
<0> clumsy: In that case: "Whats wrong with ssh?"
<3> D-side: Can't say I've meet Mr Are, oh, right. :)
<2> im trying to find a solution similar to what ive seen if you please wont ban me
<1> Pizbit: choke on me. :D
<2> *dont
<4> ssh rsync. there are a few other tools out there.
<2> ill exlain again
<4> real simple to do with unix
<0> clumsy: no need.



<3> D-side: Maybe tomorrow because tomorrow never comes, bad pun I know.
<4> some simple scripting.
<2> Lion-O can i have two minutes to explain
<1> Pizbit: oh dear lord that was awful.
<2> D-side running vnc on 30 computers isnt practical
<3> D-side: My apologies.
<1> clumsy: neither is some half***ed http solution.
<2> D-side yes it is because ive seen it done and implemented beautifully
<0> rofl
<4> clumsy: scripting, rsync and ssh is though
<2> it involves no software installation
<2> its easy
<2> and i have the server and the required bw
<3> So copy it and begone
<1> indeed.
<2> are you guys ever helpful?
<1> clearly you're the foremost expert on the issue.
<1> yes, but you're a cunt.
<0> and its also prone to be compromised by kiddies. Looking good on the outside; rotten design on the inside.
<1> i'll just cut right to the chase.
<0> In the overal; remote administration software on Unix environments is ****y.
<2> Lion-O to be honest this client wants to be cheap, if they get broken into maybe they will learn to spend some $$
<0> There are good exceptions.
<0> clumsy: you're a fscking idiot.
<1> theres that consultant spirit
<3> clumsy: And maybe they'll blame you and hire someone else.
<1> "once they get ****ed, they'll pay me a lot to un**** it! yay!"
<0> ofcourse whatever trouble this may cause to the Internet and the rest of us is totally unimportant.
<4> Lion-O: *cough*ball*cough
<1> oh oh
<2> Lion-O its a brokerage firm they dont have any information
<2> everything is stored on an online database outside the company
<1> game on
<2> Multiple Listing Services
<0> schitzo: not me. Still working hard on getting my App server to access my MySQL server 8) but don't mind me ;-)
<4> GAH ****ING FLAT BALL
<3> Awww:(
<1> hahaha
<1> maybe its just an extremely high lob
<4> D-side: I am good like that
<4> Zymurgy: go back to sleep. the ball was flat
<1> that ball ****s. :(
<5> no worries, there's always another ball popping up in here
<4> Zymurgy: I can already tell you I don't bounc
<5> or spell either :)
<0> Zymurgy!
<4> yeah that too
<5> lol
<5> heya Lion-O
<5> see, told you
<6> lol! "I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone" - Bjarne Stroustrup
<5> oops, forgot to check the bounce
<4> hahahah
<5> Lion-O: so whats new?
<7> or what I would think is the worlds most expensive bed
<5> what, that hover thing?



<7> Yep
<5> cool
<7> I would have to sell off my mom and such, but hey that could work
<5> depends on your mom :)
<5> she still got a reasonable amount of milf-ness? :)
<7> haha
<7> eww eww eww
<5> lol
<5> guess that answers that question...
<7> lol
<8> gonna go out and see 'Talladega Nights' tonight\
<5> Tamahome: got a nice bowl to check the brain into while you watch it? :)
<8> Zym: yeah.
<7> **** if im sleeping with such a magnetic field
<7> http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/47/473/473320/beddis.jpg
<9> cool!
<7> smsie, 1.5 million usd :)
<8> server too busy
<7> hm?
<8> oh no here we go
<9> fredk: cheap then :)
<7> smsie, uh huh
<7> smsie, judging from the picture, 1.5M usd is cheap compared to the apartment :P
<9> indeed
<7> I wonder when vista will be out, heh
<8> it's almost as bad as... Debian release dates!
<7> hehe
<7> isnt longhorn server due to be out like next year?
<8> expect that to slip
<7> heh no ****
<8> I mean, I'm all for delays if it helps improve the product... but sometimes I wonder
<7> indeed
<7> they apparently changed IIS alot
<7> now if only they could get rid of msaccess and cl***ic asp
<8> they can't... too many apps that depend on it
<8> this is the same reason IBM & Computer ***ociates can't junk COBOL :P
<7> its so sad, you're running this fancy *** web server and its just as junk as ever due to ASP and MDB files
<8> more and more people are switch to .NET
<8> but that's not everyone
<7> Yeah, I honestly believe that if I were to drop cl***ic asp and msaccess support on my windows webboxes my uptime and general stability would increase very much.
<8> probably
<7> I dont know how .NET handles ****ty coders though. Is it fairly forgiving?
<8> fredk: depends if you use C# or VB
<7> yeah
<8> VB (as always) can be set up to be a little too forgiving
<7> yeah, I mostly want it to relase allocated resources :)
<8> that's just bad programming
<7> ofcourse it is, but how are you going to do code review in a hosting environment?
<8> the whole .NET Framework *does* have a garbage collector (very similar to Java), but it's still good programming practice to release resources when you are finished
<8> fredk: very carefully.
<7> Tamahome, indeed ;)
<8> (and in fact, there are some .NET objects that are actually shims overtop of COM/COM+ objects, so you are actually *supposed* to release them when finished)
<7> Tamahome, though in my experience, .NET programmers i've seen seem more clued than your random cl***ic asp kiddie.
<8> fredk: agreed.
<10> fredk: Just you wait :)
<7> Tamahome, I saw some previews of IIS7 which seems nice.
<8> I only just started messing with 6
<8> app pools are driving me bat****
<7> I won't comment on IIS6 heh
<8> we use Plesk overtop of ours though
<7> nah to be fair, its not THAT bad. Though it has its flaws.
<7> Now, plesk sunks severe donkey nads
<7> ****s too
<8> it's better than webmin
<7> hmm I suppose :)
<7> last time I checked it, plesk used unix based services even on windows.
<10> Tamahome: My farts are better than webmin
<8> fredk: well yeah, so?
<8> Russ: point.
<8> fredk: sendmail is a metric ****ttonne better than IIS SMTP
<10> Tamahome: ... and I'm still trying to get the sofa to smell right, 3 days after that curry
<7> Tamahome, I believe you should try to use native services as far as you can.


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