| |
| |
| |
|
Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19
Comments:
<0> hehe
<1> i have finished install but he boot direct to grub
<0> and thats a problem just -how-?
<1> u know grub
<0> yes. it loads the linuxkernel. awefully useful thing
<1> i can configure the boot from it
<0> evidently not
<2> Mmmm. Rim
<0> mm. coffee
<0> Im sure it was bill himself on his somewhat dyslexical day
<2> Well, welcome. I guess.
<3> hello
<3> would using proxy servers make my ip anonymous? sorry for newbie question
<4> petrock: that varies. largely, yes - as in the website wouldn't know what ip you were coming from unless it deliberately chose to use javascript or a java applet to find out
<4> petrock: if it really really wants to know? no, it won't
<2> Or gave an X-Originated header
<2> (Is that the right header?)
<2> No - X-Forward-For Header.
<3> ah
<3> thanks
<4> waznz: indeed; I ***umed he meant an anonimizing proxy like the tor network one
<0> or anonymizer.com :P
<3> i can use an anonymizer but just for my browser, for irc or any other service i still have my real ip. is there a way around this? thanks much
<5> hi all, how come hugin is not on debian repository? it's a very great tool.
<4> Jostein_: ***uming you can trust them. SafeWeb tanked after they turned down a court order for their logs of the "anonymized" surfing on the basis that those records were owned by the CIA...
<0> DaveHowe: gah
<0> DaveHowe: not that Im a anonymity freak, but thats BS
<4> Jostein_: nope. SafeWeb was funded entirely by the CIA; they weren't even suble about it. anonymizer.com made a big deal out of it when the court case thing came up
<4> Jostein_: anonymiser.com claim not to keep records, but you would have to take their word for that and trust they havent' been hacked
<0> yeah
<3> so there's really no way to be anonymous in using the net? how about wifi hotspots?
<6> And bear in mind that the american administration does not apparently feel the need to inform anyone - even congress - about who, how and why they are snooping on.
<2> petrock: wifi hotspots. ***uming you're not already being watching by the FBI
<4> petrock: nobody said that - they just said your IP is pretty much public information. how tightly that binds to your real identity is up to you :)
<6> petrock: Anonymous, no. Secure, yes. Use PGP for email, and connect exclusively through SSL-enabled services (https, imaps, smtp-tsl, ipsec, etc.)
<3> waznz, im in asia
<2> Oh - that explains the desire for anonymous
<4> AFAIK, the mixmaster network and cl***ic remailler network are still both largely uncompromised
<2> Anyone remember the name of the snooping you can do by looking at the reflections cast by a CRT monitor?
<3> waznz, well in a way yes. i could use internet cafe's if im really scared though, i just want to secure a home dial up
<4> waznz: nope. there's the tempest stuff, of course
<2> DaveHowe: That's it - Tempest
<2> Interesting methodology ...
<4> waznz: aka van eck
<7> Hoi OM
<8> re
<2> Hey OM
<3> thanks alot guys
<8> Lion-O
<8> waznz
<4> waznz: been some other fun stuff along those lines - apparently there was a bug discovered in a phone which picked up the svga signal from a nearby pc video lead and pasted it into the telephone line via a highp*** filter
<2> DaveHowe: Funny. I remember at uni in my first year - one of my friends tv sets would pick up his neighbours computer image on the screen. (Amiga, IIRC)
<4> waznz: and that was commercial spying, not a TLA
<2> DaveHowe: Gotcha
<4> yeah well, miggies used a tv-out anyhow, so were producting a normal tv signal around channel 21
<2> Yes - I figure the proximity + thin walls were most likely to blame ... but you could actually make out what she had on the screen.
<2> I think in .nz some of them produced a signal on a low VHF channel
<3> could a dvorak keyboard configuration defeat a hardware keylogger?
<4> waznz: 21 is low vhf. not sure what a miggie produces in the states of course
<4> petrock: no
<4> petrock: http://tor.eff.org/documentation.html for tor info
<3> Jostein_, haha
<9> hye
<0> DaveHowe: tor is a gline-offence on neko btw :P
<9> i need some tcl arhive 4 eggdrop!
<3> Jostein_, I don't think your feds will want to risk getting birdflu here :)
<2> Whats the feds equivalent in asia?
<0> petrock: Im in norway anyway
<7> Mister_X: #eggdrop, now get lost.
<4> Jostein_: understandable; most ircd proxyscanners look for and ban on it too
<9> waw.. mother****er LionO
<3> waznz, would you believe NBI (national BI)
<7> Jostein_: gline offense? no it isn't.
<8> yes!
<9> OldMonk ?
<3> :)
<7> Jostein_: tor is perfectly accepted on neko, the only moment a problem arises is then the server is an open proxy.
<7> s/then/when/
<10> why do people want to hide who they are via stuff like tor except for nefarious stuff?
<0> Lion-O: ah
<4> petrock: plenty of info there on setting up tor and its privoxy front-man
<8> i win!
<8> smsie++
<0> Lion-O: well.. doesnt tor -need- to be an open proxy to work as intended?
<8> ditto encryption
<4> smsie: personally? because its fun. your next question is?
<10> OldMonk: well, encryption only hides the message, not that the message was sent
<7> Jostein_: no, you'd need a specific tor client, no?
<0> smsie: because we miss the modem days
<2> smsie: when you're plotting to overthrow the guvermint
<0> Lion-O: oh well.. I havent really looked that much into tor
<4> smsie: that's what mixmaster/remaillers are for :)
<8> yeah, **** privacy!
<10> OldMonk: I think a person has a tight to hide the contents of their traffic. Hiding that they originated the traffic I can only see as useful for bad guys
<0> Lion-O: Only know the basics of what it does, and I figured it needed to be open to work
<11> OldMonk
<11> JJ
<0> hey chekks
<4> smsie: often traffic analysis is MORE valuable than content
<11> smsie
<11> Lion-O
<11> hmmmm THE REST :o)
<10> waznz: I wouldn't plot to overthrow the gubberment. They are so useless as to make themselves irrelevant
<8> smsie: how about google storing your ip with searches, and linking it to your gmail cookie?
<8> cheeksy
<2> cheeksy:
<8> cheeksy: wow, you got my name right!
<11> s/OldMonk/Raju!
<11> :-p
<10> OldMonk: *shrug*, I don't care if they do (for me)
<11> waznz :o)))
<8> smsie: you may not...
<10> OldMonk: so don't accept cookies from google. I'm sure you're capable of configuring your browser for that
<0> heh
<10> so how does tor work through nat?
<0> smsie: good question
<0> smsie: I guess users need to setup portforwarding
<10> ack, wtf
<7> smsie: I think it works the same was as any other service. I mean; you are connecting to a remote box, only internal you'd be using it as some sort of "proxy"
<0> Lion-O: evidently does use a lot of hops
<0> Lion-O: thus the name "the onion router"
<0> Lion-O: and thus its reputation for being slower than modems back in the days.
<7> hehe
<4> smsie: there is considerable discussion about nat, proxy and firewall traversal in the faq
<0> anyway... I cant see what using tor achieves that using 5-6 selected proxies in different countries in the world doesnt
<0> if all you want is anonymity
<7> ./wall jostein; enable tor glining to welcome smsie when he joins? sure, good idea!
<7> oops
<0> Lion-O: :P
<10> well, lovely
<10> doesn't appear to proxy ftp
<10> or it's not enabled to
<10> Your request for http://ftp://ftp.linux.org/ could not be fulfilled, because the domain name ftp could not be resolved.
<10> gotta love it
<0> lol
<10> it does proxy web, but **** it's slow
<0> thats what Ive heard :P
<10> not anonymous, but *fast* :)
<7> fast, humbug
<4> smsie: installed it here, browsed a couple of google queries, shut it down, never had it running since :)
<7> your problem is your connection.. If you want fast get a T3, then you can easily surf on 1 Mbit using tor :)
<10> that was...fun...for about 15 seconds
<12> oh wow
Return to
#linux
or
Go to some related
logs:
#AllNiteCafe
#london
#linux
#linuxhelp
#php
1996 alburn, Older?
#MissKitten
db_load: command not found + Debian
#AllNiteCafe
TWISTER TRANSISTER
|
|